Sid1984 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Arf, you're incredible. PL, CL and FA cup not much difference and only "slightly" better than a PL by itself? ok, each to their own. You mentioned a clown. Only a clown would rate the champions league as ever so "slight" of an achievement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Still doing this shambles? My word. Quality of side and achievement don't directly correlate. The 06-07 side was far better than the 2010-11 side and which one got to the Champions League final? You don't go an entire league campaign without losing and not be a great side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Talking to yourself, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 ? . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Club Brugge, CSKA Moscow, Lazio, Monaco, or Rapid Vienna in the playoff round for the Champions League. Screwed if we draw Lazio or Monaco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Still doing this shambles? My word. Quality of side and achievement don't directly correlate. The 06-07 side was far better than the 2010-11 side and which one got to the Champions League final? You don't go an entire league campaign without losing and not be a great side. Of course the 2007 side was better than the 2011 side. Both teams won the league only that year, so the achievements were the same. When the achievements are the same you can argue which is better. However when the achievement is so far off, for example PL, CL + FA compared to just PL, there is no comparison. The united 99 was one of a kind, they had the hardest possible draw in the CL yet came out superior. Combined with tough FA cup draw and a hard fought league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Club Brugge, CSKA Moscow, Lazio, Monaco, or Rapid Vienna in the playoff round for the Champions League.Screwed if we draw Lazio or Monaco. Any of them will be absolutely fine. I'd like to play Monaco and show Arsenal how it is done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Yep, you just need to play like 2002/03 It's a bit arrogant to assume that you'd turn over Lazio, Monaco, possibly even CSKA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Yep, you just need to play like 2002/03 It's a bit arrogant to assume that you'd turn over Lazio, Monaco, possibly even CSKA. If we can't beat one of those teams over 180 mins then we wouldn't deserve to be in the CL. I mean it's not like we are playing Valencia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 When's the draw? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Friday 7th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Cheers. When are the games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 first leg is 18th/19th I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldberg Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 United have been taking the money for that game since the 28th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Yep, you just need to play like 2002/03 It's a bit arrogant to assume that you'd turn over Lazio, Monaco, possibly even CSKA. Yeah Brugge and Vienna are the standouts from there. CSKA would be undesirable for the travel alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machetero Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Yep, you just need to play like 2002/03 It's a bit arrogant to assume that you'd turn over Lazio, Monaco, possibly even CSKA. Lazio would be bad and Monaco is nasty in slowing down the game and bogging down any attack. Other teams, including CSKA - should be easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradz FM Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Monaco or Lazio before CSKA any day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 CSKA's location is the main worry. They outplayed city last year over the two matches in the group stages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 What is going on in here? Anyway, 6 games in 2/3 of August should give us quite the early warm up. When was the last time we had this many matches so early? And will Kane be ready to step right in? :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Would expect us over two legs to get past any of the teams in the draw. Of course there are "easier" ties in there, would rather not have to face Lazio as that would be the toughest possible tie. Would rather the team didn't have to travel to Russia. Rapid Vienna or Club Brugge please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Rapid Vienna or Club Brugge please. Yep. Draw either of these and no excuses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 CSKA's location is the main worry. They outplayed city last year over the two matches in the group stages. No Doumbia this time now though although it would not be a surprise to see him go back. Has not settled at Roma. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Yep. Draw either of these and no excuses. No excuses anyway after spending so much cash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 No excuses anyway after spending so much cash. Fair. It would be a pretty ugly August if we crashed out of CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 have much have we spent this year overall, can't be much accounting for Di Maria and other sales? Obviously Di Maria's contribution wasn't worthy of the fee so we should expect to improve but there must still be plenty in the pot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 have much have we spent this year overall, can't be much accounting for Di Maria and other sales? Obviously Di Maria's contribution wasn't worthy of the fee so we should expect to improve but there must still be plenty in the pot. 83mil from Depay onwards, gross spend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 have much have we spent this year overall, can't be much accounting for Di Maria and other sales? Obviously Di Maria's contribution wasn't worthy of the fee so we should expect to improve but there must still be plenty in the pot. We've spent £69m (£68.95 if we want to be exact), and including Di Maria we've made £55.6m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 83mil from Depay onwards, gross spend. Have I missed a player out? Ive got Schneidlerlin (£24.5), Depay(£19.25), Schweinsteiger (£12.6) and Darmain (£12.6) as ins in fees, Romero on a free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Pedders ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Have I missed a player out? Ive got Schneidlerlin (£24.5), Depay(£19.25), Schweinsteiger (£12.6) and Darmain (£12.6) as ins in fees, Romero on a free. Sky have Depay as 31mil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Transfermarkt have him on 28m euros, so then it should fit (almost £20m ) PS: The useless media have a really bad habit of mixing up € and £. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 So just under £15m? Would be quite surprised if that is the end of our outfield business this window in that case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 There will probably be one or two more, and doubt we've seen the last in DDG saga either. Almost a month left of this madness after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 So just under £15m? Would be quite surprised if that is the end of our outfield business this window in that case. There is Pedro to come in, and if "rumours" are to be believed DDG to leave (Ramos still hasn't actually resigned yet so god knows what's going on yet) and Lloris to come in, and i think he will look for one more outfield player anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
managerdude_66 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 There is Pedro to come in, and if "rumours" are to be believed DDG to leave (Ramos still hasn't actually resigned yet so god knows what's going on yet) and Lloris to come in, and i think he will look for one more outfield player anyway. Isn't Lloris out for another month or so atleast? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Lloris played yesterday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Gizzy will be getting very excited, rumours we've bid £40m for Kane. This makes me very happy indeed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Why would anyone not want Kane? He is a great prospect and already very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 This makes me very happy indeed No way we get Kane and Lloris, and I'd rather have the goalie thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Kane so overpriced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebsy Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Fairly sure £40m could be spent in many far wiser ways than on Harry Kane, for reasons that have been said many times over in this thread. Anyway, Di Maria officially gone. Glad to see the back of the pillock, and frankly it would be hilarious to see him fail at PSG, if I'm honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
managerdude_66 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Fairly sure £40m could be spent in many far wiser ways than on Harry Kane, for reasons that have been said many times over in this thread. That's just the price one must pay for him being English and for doing business with Levy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Fairly sure £40m could be spent in many far wiser ways than on Harry Kane, for reasons that have been said many times over in this thread.Anyway, Di Maria officially gone. Glad to see the back of the pillock, and frankly it would be hilarious to see him fail at PSG, if I'm honest. Agree tbh, but more likely we'll ask ourselves why we let such a great player leave after just one season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Why would anyone not want Kane? He is a great prospect and already very good. I heard that you think that he's already better than Thierry Henry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Would love Kane at United. Would take upwards of £40m though and there is the risk that last season was a one off and that he won't be able to sustain it but I personally think he can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Disappointing that the di Maria move didn't work out as he is a great player but he clearly didn't want to be at the club and he would have joined PSG over us last summer for an easier time if he could have. He could have stayed and fought for his place as he has the quality of course to be one of if not the first names on the team sheet but he has decided not to do that. Oh well. Don't want players at the club that don't want to play for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 *except DDG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 *except DDG Let him leave if he doesn't want to play for the club. Would be sad to see him go of course because he's a great keeper but if he doesn't want to stay then sell him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Why would anyone not want Kane? He is a great prospect and already very good. Because it's an awful lot of money for someone with one successful season behind them. See Andy Carroll for the easiest lazy example off the top of my head. Still rather spend c. £40m on Kane than c.£60m on Cavani mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Would rather spend 40M on a defender than on Kane. We could gamble on Hamez Wilson and Hernandez anyways to be back up for Rooney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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