Eugster Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Someone trustworthy on Twitter is saying we've signed Zaha, Theo is 80/20 to sign a new contract but the club plans to sell Sagna. This club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfgrigg Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Someone trustworthy on Twitter is saying we've signed Zaha, Theo is 80/20 to sign a new contract but the club plans to sell Sagna. This club. Contradiction in terms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Rather have Charlie Austin or Jordan Rhodes than fricken Zaha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llew_Arshavin23 Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Wilfried Zaha is the "next big thing", according to many. He's been called up to the Senior England squad tonight. He's an Arsenal fan too Talking about Arsenal fans, Carl Jenkinson has signed a new 5-year contract (:D:D), according to Sam Wallace (The Independent). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugster Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Contradiction in terms. There are trustworthy people on Twitter tbf. If you ignore the ***** then twitter is really quite good. I like Zaha, lokks to have a trick or two in him. Sagna though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Surely we should be following proper transfer etiquette, and he should be going to wigan first? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candre168 Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Can we not just bloody keep a player for once? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugster Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Surely we should be following proper transfer etiquette, and he should be going to wigan first? We're Wigan in this transaction. He goes to us (Wigan) and then after he develops he can go to Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Someone trustworthy on Twitter is saying we've signed Zaha, Theo is 80/20 to sign a new contract but the club plans to sell Sagna. This club. Who is this from? Zaha stuff is everywhere so I expect it is true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suggy33 Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Podolski for me is just not cut out to be a winger. Yes, he's assisted a couple of goals, but he shows very little or no movement going forward on the left. The number of times yesterday when Vermaelen got the ball, and had to play it back across because Podolski was floating around the middle of the pitch was too often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 I still think we should be able to get top 4, getting another attacking player in during January, whether that be a Zaha or a Llorente/Huntelaar (with the former obviously being most likely, Llorente and Huntelaar more like pipe dreams caused by random rumours in tabloids or twitter, we've even been linked with Cavani today but the chances of that happening are about the same as us winning the quadruple this season) is important as well as Walcott "signing da ting" as it were. At the moment it looks like it will be between us, Spurs and Everton - our game with Spurs next weekend will probably give us a good idea of where we're at, although we're not in great form at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmi88 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 We bettet not sell sagna Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Rather have Charlie Austin or Jordan Rhodes than fricken Zaha. erm, Zaha is really really good. I know Austin quite well and have a lot of time for him, but he's not in Zaha's league If Theo signed a contract AND we got Zaha i'd be very happy indeed. Not too fussed by Sagna, even though he is a quality player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 The silver lining of Sagna leaving would be Jenkinson getting more game time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Would be about right wouldnt it for us. Sell a defender, buy another striker that he can play out of position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Podolski said to the German press after the game against Schalke that he is not enjoying playing where he is and that he want's to play in the center. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwig Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Sure I read an article the other day about Lewis Holtby's contract expiring in the summer and he mentioned you as being a potential club to join. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfgrigg Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Podolski said to the German press after the game against Schalke that he is not enjoying playing where he is and that he want's to play in the center. Yep, basically he doesn't want to have to track back and defend (which he barely does anyway). When he has played centrally this season he's been anonymous, so I doubt it will happen unless there's an injury to Giroud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff EdL Posted November 12, 2012 SI Staff Share Posted November 12, 2012 Yep, basically he doesn't want to have to track back and defend (which he barely does anyway). When he has played centrally this season he's been anonymous, so I doubt it will happen unless there's an injury to Giroud. He played centrally in one match this season, not sure that qualifies enough to judge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suggy33 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 We can't play him central now though, not with Giroud in some good form, he has 4 goals in his last 4 games now. I read somewhere, that he's scored 3 headers this season already, and last season he only scored 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djvandyke Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Yes because the laws of the game only permit one striker per team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfgrigg Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 He played centrally in one match this season, not sure that qualifies enough to judge. Oh, thought he played three there around the beginning of the season. Guess my memory is playing tricks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Yes let's change formation as that is the cause of the problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Well, a change of formation is a start. Or should we not change it because it wouldn't solve everything? Our formation is horrible. Was built for Cesc Fabregas. So why are we still using it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Well, a change of formation is a start. Or should we not change it because it wouldn't solve everything?Our formation is horrible. Was built for Cesc Fabregas. So why are we still using it? It is different to how we played with Cesc. That it is the same formation is irrelevant the way we play within it is different. I can't think of one good team who plays with 4-4-2. It leaves you short in the centre of midfield normally unless you have a forward who can drop off and in effect play in midfield. The formation is irrelevant it is what happens within it which matters. Currently there is minimal belief so the passing is too slow and players aren't taking risks. That is the issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I can't think of one good team who plays with 4-4-2. It leaves you short in the centre of midfield normally unless you have a forward who can drop off and in effect play in midfield. The boys at Old Trafford say hi (depending on the day of the week, the opposition and what Sir Alex had for breakfast). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayub95 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 United looks more of a 4-4-1-1 with Rooney more like an attacking midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 That's what the stuff in paranthesis is for, we are very far from playing pure 4-4-2 all the time, but against some teams, especially at home, we do. Although that being said it's probably more of a 2-2-2-4 in those games but that's neither here nor there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I would call it a 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-1-1 depending on who you play. As SAF said he has never played a 4-4-2. Which is the point you have the player who can increase the numbers in midfield with Rooney we don't. Previously we had Bergkamp or RVP who would play in between the lines. Our players who can do that are more midfielder. The actual difference is minimal. However there is a case say against Reading at home or whoever playing 2 out and out strikers up top if they are playing very deep. That doesn't really solve much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I would call it a 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-1-1 depending on who you play. As SAF said he has never played a 4-4-2. The same SAf who said he's never played with a pure DM, despite that being what Keane was in the latter stages of his career. You could take the United line-up in any given game and call it 4-4-2, 4-2-3-1, 4-4-1-1, 4-2-2-2, 4-2-4 and any number of other formations. But there are times where we play 4-4-2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett.spurs Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 City play 442 as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 City play 442 as well. True but they have strong, determined, athletic, world class players in there and a manager who knows how to defend, we have 3 wet paper towels and a one trick tactic pony of a manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett.spurs Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I think we should both just play 442 on Saturday, could end up 9-9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I think we should both just play 442 on Saturday, could end up 9-9. Did AVB Go 442 against City? after that impressive display against Maribor or did he revert back to the other one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett.spurs Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 He went with Dempsey behind Adebayor, the former literally does nothing so I hope he's not playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I think both sets of fans are dreading this match! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 The same SAf who said he's never played with a pure DM, despite that being what Keane was in the latter stages of his career. You could take the United line-up in any given game and call it 4-4-2, 4-2-3-1, 4-4-1-1, 4-2-2-2, 4-2-4 and any number of other formations. But there are times where we play 4-4-2 Well quite which is why the whole notation thing is nonsense. The issue is confidence the system is irrelevant at the moment would solve nothing. this is forgetting that our squad just isn't suited to it. City play 442 as well. Meh, their strikers are much more flexible than ours. They also have the central midfield to carry it off in more matches than we can. I think we should both just play 442 on Saturday, could end up 9-9. I like this idea. I have no idea what to expect from the derby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 If Dembele is out I can't see us lot winning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I am not sure which player we rely on any more they have been so poor. Plus side is Woj will be playing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djvandyke Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Competent managers adapt to situations. No good reason why we can’t sacrifice a midfielder at home against most sides. QPR rolled up at the Emirates with a 4-4-2 and were the better side! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagoonerfan Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Hello Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Quite alot of players from both teams on Internation duty 7 of ours(1st team and sub bench players) http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/45828/international-watch-gunners-away-on-duty Huddlestone and Caulker for tottenham not sure who else, Defoe gets a rest for the the weekend so id imagine if AVB has a brain he will start him against us due to his form and freshness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 You realise his form is poor bar the maribor game.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagoonerfan Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Does anyone remember how I said Mertesacker was better than Terry before I got banned, and you all called me deluded? I believe I have proved you wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llew_Arshavin23 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 There was another AST meeting tonight. Many a thing discussed, not just whinging about the Arsenal board. One of the things disclosed was that every Barclays Premier League club will receive £45 million, next season, in TV money. Both Chelsea and Manchester City, apparently, have to "bank it" while we could spend it. Also, the safe standing system is one that's being considered by the Premier League. Not only will this slash ticket prices, but it will also keep our match day revenue at a similar income as to what it is now - largely due to the increased capacity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Does anyone remember how I said Mertesacker was better than Terry before I got banned, and you all called me deluded? I believe I have proved you wrong John Terry? , hes much better than Mertesacker, i think if you asked any one with a brain who they would rather have in their team they would choose Terry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugster Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I don't think anyone in this thread would choose Terry. Two reasons. 1. Mert is a very good center back. 2. Who on earth would want that *insert female genitalia here* at their club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 John Terry is better than any central defender we've had at the club since Adams retired. He might be a **** off the pitch but if I could go back 10/11 years and convince Wenger to sign Terry and mould him into the future captain/leader of the club I definitely would. Imagine how good a Cole/Terry/Campbell partnership could have been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 John Terry is better than any central defender we've had at the club since Adams retired. He might be a **** off the pitch but if I could go back 10/11 years and convince Wenger to sign Terry and mould him into the future captain/leader of the club I definitely would. Imagine how good a Cole/Terry/Campbell partnership could have been. Campbell was a better defender than both Adams and Terry. Enjoying SJ234 on this page. No one plays 4-4-2 guys. Did I even mention 4-4-2? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djvandyke Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Change of subject [JT] please before I vomit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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