ajw10 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 3 players will come in I reckon. We really do need a right back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falahk Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Our manager last year said that we would not sell both Cesc and Nasri and that we don't sell our top players. People lie, in football more-so. Come August 31st I think Bilbao accept £20m. athletic is not = arsenal we have no need to sell him from an economical perspective, and we simply cant buy a better player to replace him, its very possible that Urrutia think that one more 30 goal season is worth £20m, also from a purely political perspective it would probably win him lots of points to not bow down under pressure in a situation like this unless he have a very good reason for it (if he strip the club of important first team players and sell like wenger does, he will probably get voted out of office sooner rather then later) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 and what if Llorente kicks up a fuss and wants to leave? What then? Every club has a breaking point with a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suggy33 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I actually really like Chamakh, watching that video and he used to be such a great player. I want him to do well for us. I just go back to the season after Thierry left, no one gave us a chance, but up stepped Adebayor, who had a great season. Maybe Chamakh can do the same. I don't think Chamakh has been the same since the banning of snoods I think a RB cover will come in, a DM if Song leaves and maybe another attacking mid/winger. I'm not sure AW will go for another striker... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottevil30 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 going to be another long, miserable season of mediocrity. which, after the invincibles team, is really unforgivable. way to take a club apart bit by bit dudes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jisntdaman Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 FFS stop ****ing moaning. I'm sick of it. Get behind the team. We have bought three very good players this summer. I think the £24mil for RvP is a good deal tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottevil30 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 not sure why i'd gaf what you're sick of *shrug* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy13 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 going to be another long, miserable season of mediocrity. which, after the invincibles team, is really unforgivable. way to take a club apart bit by bit dudes. Exactly right. All masterminded by Wenger. This is his last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I'm assuming the 13 on your username refers to age? Or iq? I'm assuming the 9334 in your name is the number of times you're wrong every week. Numbers theory ftw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky9334 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Numbers theory ftw He was right tbf, my wife counted them all up Mirror linking us with Man Utds Hernandez today. Think he'd fit in well, but can't see them letting him go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawee Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Stop reading the rumour mills, it'll drive you mad lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky9334 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Oh I know, I don't believe We've signed anyone until its on arsenal.com! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_simmonds Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 So, I've spent some of this morning reading through all the posts made since the transfer was announced, and for once I can see everyone's POV. I personally am in the "**** him, let him go off and try and win trophies at United" camp, because he's 29, been fit for about 50% of the last 5 years and has only had one outstanding season in the EPL. We've got £24M for him. That's a nice chunk of money, that hopefully we will use to sign Llorente. I personally think that he would fit in well to the type of system that we play, got great touch, technique and can finish. Having said that, there is no loyalty in football anymore. None. Giggs, Gerrard and Scholes are the last of a dying breed. Players will come and go, but it's our club. As fans we are loyal to the club and by proxy to the players that play for us. But when they leave the club will still be ours. Not theirs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEEEEEO Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I still feel if we start the season with the squad we have now (minus some of the deadwood) we are in a stronger position than last year. If Song goes then he will definitely need to be replaced though. Essentially we have replaced RVP with Giroud, Benayoun with Podolski and added Cazorla. On top of that hopefully Diaby and Wilshere can make an impact this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 going to be another long, miserable season of mediocrity. which, after the invincibles team, is really unforgivable. way to take a club apart bit by bit dudes. What the **** are you talking about? Miserable season of mediocrity? This thread is full of ****ing whingers and complainers, you don't know how good we've got it. We've actually IMPROVED from last season, a season in which we lost three players and IMPROVED then too. WAY TO TAKE THE CLUB APART ARSENE!!11!!11!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llew_Arshavin23 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 David Ornstein reporting this morning that Robin van Persie's move was not money motivated. Obviously being spoon-fed rubbish by the van Persie camp. Interestingly, he also said that are not in the market for a replacement. We're looking to bring in a new right-back and 'defensive cover'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 How do you know he's motivated by money? Surely he wants to win something before he retires? That seems more important then money to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I think he's motivated by both. We will sign more than a right back and defensive cover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldeniro Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I genuinely don't think he's motivated by money, if he was on £140k a week at Arsenal (that's just what I heard, don't know if true or not) he's hardly gonna be on much more than that at United. I'd say after a very disappointing Euro 2012 he realised he's probably never going to win anything with Holland and revaluated his career a little bit and decided to move. He moved to a club that has won the league and the champions league over the last few seasons because he wants trophies. He is 29 afterall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeekoHFC Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 The last time RVP was not in the Arsenal squad -2003/04. Arsenal went a whole league season unbeaten. Calm down Gooners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I genuinely don't think he's motivated by money, if he was on £140k a week at Arsenal (that's just what I heard, don't know if true or not) he's hardly gonna be on much more than that at United. I'd say after a very disappointing Euro 2012 he realised he's probably never going to win anything with Holland and revaluated his career a little bit and decided to move. He moved to a club that has won the league and the champions league over the last few seasons because he wants trophies. He is 29 afterall. He definitely wasn't on 140k a week here. He signed his contract back when is stock wasnt that high. He would be roughly on 90k a week. United are reportedly offering him in the region of 200k. And he told Wenger and Gazidis that he was leaving before Euro 2012. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldeniro Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I still can't see the reason being money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfgrigg Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I genuinely don't think he's motivated by money, if he was on £140k a week at Arsenal (that's just what I heard, don't know if true or not) he's hardly gonna be on much more than that at United. I'd say after a very disappointing Euro 2012 he realised he's probably never going to win anything with Holland and revaluated his career a little bit and decided to move. He moved to a club that has won the league and the champions league over the last few seasons because he wants trophies. He is 29 afterall. £130-140k was supposedly the size of the new contract Arsenal offered him. By all accounts he was on significantly less on his current contract - a little under £100k or so. Anyway, I doubt this move is about money in particular, although of course that's almost always a factor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottevil30 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 What the **** are you talking about? Miserable season of mediocrity? This thread is full of ****ing whingers and complainers, you don't know how good we've got it.We've actually IMPROVED from last season, a season in which we lost three players and IMPROVED then too. WAY TO TAKE THE CLUB APART ARSENE!!11!!11!!! improved last season? you for real? cesc, nasri, clichy out and, tbh, only arteta a decent buy, maybe gervinho, who knows. may have finished third but that due WAY MORE to chelsea and tottenham wanting to do well even less than we did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsheffreygreat Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 going to be another long, miserable season of mediocrity. which, after the invincibles team, is really unforgivable. way to take a club apart bit by bit dudes. Would also like to pull you up on this. You mad bro? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy13 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 improved last season? you for real? cesc, nasri, clichy out and, tbh, only arteta a decent buy, maybe gervinho, who knows. may have finished third but that due WAY MORE to chelsea and tottenham wanting to do well even less than we did. 100% agree. Everyone keeps saying we did better last season just because we finished one place higher. Conveniently, these people ignore the fact that Chelsea and Spurs threw it away spectacularly and only a really dodgy backup west Brom keeper got us into Europe. If you're still not convinced ask yourself how many cup finals we reached last season compared to the previous season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy13 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 He said we have improved ON last season, not improved last season. Try reading before flying off the wall Scooter Er, no. He said we sold 3 players last season and improved then too. Try reading before flying off the wall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Wakeford Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Er, no. He said we sold 3 players last season and improved then too. Yes just realised this. Read the first bit and mind drifted past the second claim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy13 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Yes just realised this. Read the first bit and mind drifted past the second claim. No prob, easily done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Wakeford Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 No prob, easily done. Think my mind was still chuckling at ajw's earlier claim that he has "sources." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy13 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Think my mind was still chuckling at ajw's earlier claim that he has "sources." Probably does. Tomato and brown! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llew_Arshavin23 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Local press in Barcelona saying that Alex Song's transfer is 'done'. Around £16 million, according to them. Good money. Also, Italian press are adamant that Arsenal will try to hi-jack Juventus' deal for Fernando Llorente... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsheffreygreat Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Decent deal. Could reinvest that money in Steven Fletcher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorg Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 RVP and Song gone in the space of two days. Surely that can't be good?! What are the thoughts for the season now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalFan7 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 If it really is £16million, **** off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottevil30 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 besides, even getting Llorente would not excuse strengthening one of the two clubs we're supposedly trying to catch up, the one that may actually be reachable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 You don't have to be able to speak Dutch to see the "oh ffs" look in his eyes. The Dutch equivalent of Geoff Shreeves breaking the bad news to TV5. http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/the-moment-thomas-vermaelen-found-out-robin-van-persie-left-arsenal-for-manchester-united/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy13 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 besides, even getting Llorente would not excuse strengthening one of the two clubs we're supposedly trying to catch up, the one that may actually be reachable. Exactly what I've been saying for a long time. We could get Ronaldo and Messi but what's the point if you sell your best players to your rivals to supplement it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Exactly what I've been saying for a long time. We could get Ronaldo and Messi but what's the point if you sell your best players to your rivals to supplement it? that's brilliant have to replace Pires' outdated Adebayor quote with this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawee Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I think we can still be stronger than last season if we buy properly. Wenger can't help it. He's lost Cesc, Nasri, Clichy, RvP, and possibly Song as well. He has to rebuild even if he doesn't want to. We can still come out for the better come September 1st. Wenger needs to be ruthless. It's okay to lose Song and RvP, especially if they're well priced, if we replace them and don't stop strengthening. If, of the starting players this summer, we lose RvP and Song, and we get 4 additions (Giroud, Podolski, Cazorla, plus one other, perhaps a defensive cover) and replace RvP and Song with good players like Llorente and M' Vila (just throwing out names that are common in this thread) then I think we're a lot stronger than last season. If this is the end of our summer dealings, then I think Wenger has really messed up big time. The issue of losing RvP and Song will only be a problem if we don't react properly. If we do react properly, then I think we can be challenging the title. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Couple of things Song is going if he does because Wenger is tired of his attitude apparently. Also apparently Theo will be signing a new 4 year deal which I wouldn't be surprised by Looks like Wilshere could be getting 10 which would be weird considering Podolski doesn't have a number Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky9334 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Thought he took 9 from park? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Have we literally given up completely on Park and removed his number? We didn't even do that to Squillaci Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 aye, think the national service thing he has coming up has ruined his potential arsenal career imo, shame we cant send squillaci, mannone or fabianski in his place lol, which reminds me.. arsene's back up plan for any injury to Wojciech Szczęsny - http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/oxlade-chamberlain-the-mood-is-fantastic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suggy33 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 He's now exempt for national service for getting the bronze medal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 He's now exempt for national service for getting the bronze medal really? thats awesome news, he played well during the olympics, would love to see that kind of form for arsenal if wenger gives him the chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suggy33 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 SSN say we're back in for Biglia... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Song's replacement found Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalFan7 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 what sort of player is biglia? is he the ball winning-esque song replacement? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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