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ArsenalFan7

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That's quite nice.

I'm sure most people would end up liking it despite thinking it was horrific from the images. I remember everyone thought this years away was shocking when the pictures were released, I think it's a really good kit though and I'm sure a lot of people quite like it nowadays.

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Would be happy seeing us get relegated if it meant that Morgan died.

I second this.

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Please no. Horrific. Although there have been other pictures of this "kit", the optimist in me says that it looks suspiciously like last season's kit with a few colours changed here and there.

It really is horrible. Are we trying to convince RvP to stay by putting the Dutch flag on the sleeves with those stripes? Why not just go the whole hog and turn the red into orange too?

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jamez91

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Benayouns tweet after the FA Cup game:

"Bad day yesterday,out of the FA cup and not to play at all again..hope for better days"

Does he mean not again in the FA cup this season, or not again for Arsenal ever again?

Maybe getting frustrated at not playing now. Can't blame him tbf.

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iamjerome

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saw this posted elsewhere, figured some of you may like to read (sy & dj), rest of you - sorry.

http://le-grove.co.u...ears-by-arsene/

I remember the first one of those meeting I attended, any mention of the coaches future was met with jeers. Last night, I said something along the lines of…

'Last year we all celebrated the arrival of a CEO who was essentially hands off. We actively encouraged an owner who'd be business as usual. A year on we're critiquing him for not forcing the hand of the manager in the transfer market. Should the highest paid man at the club need coerce him into buying players? Should we not be questioning whether that sort of manager is right for us?'

Then I was asked what I'd do…

'I've said since last summer he should be sacked'

Not one boo. Not one jeer. Just focus on the question. That's how far we've come.

As for other snippets…

Arsenal are asking for fan opinion on raising prices. They're also canvassing on the 7 cup matches and whether people want them. Many said they wouldn't want to attend Europa Cup games. I say that's a bit poor. I'd go, regardless and I wouldn't want those games removed.

The AST pushing for home credits reward scheme. Apparently 400 club levellers used their ticket once or less last year. Truly disgraceful, but again, a worry for a club so dependent on expensive seats.

Arsenal have the joint highest ticket revenue in Europe. I'm pretty sure we're up there with United.

Only 25% of people take up the option of a new season ticket when offered.

The Premiership sells so well because the grounds are 92% capacity.

As of June we'll have £160mill cash in the bank. Once again it was reiterated that it's not for spending. Well, not all of it… We pay wages out of that and it acts as cash flow for the season.

Wages are up to £130million. Massive eh?

Predicted cash surplus was thought to be £60mill. Arsenal did however pay out a lot in agents fees and loyalty bonuses. Yep, Thomas Vermaelen got a loyalty bonus. Shouldn't it have been the other way round? Bribing players to stay… cheeky. I wish my work gave me a loyalty bonus after a year out sick.

Champions League when it's all said and done is worth £45mill. A mix of TV, gate reciepts and commercial deals. The big question is where that cash comes from if we lose out?

The AST reckon we have two years of float. £50mill this year and £35mill for next years Queensland Property deal.

As we've reported before, there is at least £25mill worth of dross in the wage bill. We can't move them on. This has been compounded over the years by a trick Wenger uses to get around the banks stipulation he must invest 25% of transfer proceeds back into the squad. Instead if buying players, he signs his current ones up to new inflated deals.

We've known about this for a while. I find it utterly disgraceful this has been allowed to carry on.

The fact is, we can afford mega wages. Wenger doesn't have a wage cap. He has an amount of money to play with. The fact he chooses to give JD £50k, Diaby £60k and Denilson £60k directly hinders his ability to pay Robin £160k pw.

United don't pay their fringe players anywhere near what we do. Wes Brown was on £18k pw, he knew he was part of something special though. We have players who are fat off big salaries. Who play for PAYE not glory.

It's a horrible mess people, it really is.

The story of FFP came up as well. Nigel Phillips, like many of our readers believe the club use the ruling to hide behind. City have blatantly breached the rules a number of times and nothing has happened. As have many clubs. The irony of it all is that if any club is in danger of breaching the rules, it's us if we exit the Champions League. Our wage bill will be unsustainable if we're out of Europe.

It was also highlighted that the average age of the board is 73… hence the stagnation and lack of ambition post stadium build.

There was also the absolute refusal of the club to allow R&W onto the board. It won't happen. What people suspect might occur is that Stan could sell up if things get too spicy. He's never sold an asset, but he's never bought overseas. If he isn't welcome at his own Franchise… Sorry I mean club… He could sell out for a massive profit. He's too old to be in it for the long term. Unless his son Josh is a major league soccer fan.

Interesting that Matt Scott of the Telegraph believes Wenger has made himself unsackable. His squad is too full and too highly paid to do anything with over the next few years. He reckons no top manager would touch the job.

You'll hear more from him in a couple of weeks time… in your ears if you get what I mean.

Some other snippets

The club improved revenue by £10mill last season. £3mill of that was tour money. £4mill was season ticket price hikes. Yet the CEO landed a £600k bonus! Errr… where is the outrage?

We could have a £100million rights issue and beat FFP if it went against the stadium debt. The reason we won't do that is because Wenger wouldn't spend the money. Previously it was because the other board members wouldn't put their hands in their pockets. They only took out of the club…

Average attendance to the games these days is in the low fifties.

We have 71 paid professional on the wage bill (we had 48 when we moved to the Emirates). We also fund Nik B and Denilson. We laugh at City for doing the same with Adebayor and Bridge, we're just as bad… on lower salaries of course!

The board have got rich off the self sustaining business model.

We earn £14mill from short sponsor / manufacture. Liverpool earn £40mill

Nina booted from board for having a Starbucks with Usmanov people.

David Dein spends more time with Wenger than Gazidis. If he is spending that much time with Wenger, it begs the question what the hell he's talking to him about? 'Errr, Arsene… Squillaci. What the hell were you thinking?'

Stadium debt is £220mill

When Dein was booted from the board, Wenger was promised he was in charge. Hence why he was able to pick his own CEO.

Wenger decides player value, hence why so many deals fall through. That's why Mata isn't wearing an Arsenal shirt.

Club runs at break even.

There are only 1200 shareholders left. Geoff being one of them. He's a rarity… he didn't sell out like so many did.

Final fun fact of the evening… There are more Arsenal fans in Nigerian than there are in the UK. Wow! I've always said we get a bundle of traffic from the home of Kanu… I didn't realise the extent of support!

Right… that's your monthly round up. If you want to join up and have your say, sign up here… well worth the cash. If you want to read their analysis of the financials, check here.

parts of it just can't be true though, surely.
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Chr1s Lawson

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True, AA's preferred role is a second striker and he's never been used in that position at Arsenal. I think he spent a couple of months as a lone striker in an injury crisis, but apart from that it's been on the right or left. He expressed a little discontent at playing as a left winger just a few moths after joining us, so I guess that's why we've not seen the best of him, he's clearly not one of those players with the mentality to perform at his best out of position!

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