AmA Deo Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Here you go http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/blogs/football-manager-2010/Football-Manager-2010-new-features-blog-Day-23-Speed-tests-and-Paulo-Nutini-article180613.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Miles Jacobson Posted October 5, 2009 SI Staff Share Posted October 5, 2009 beat me by seconds.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebzilla Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 beat me by seconds.... Need more speed tests Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM Addick Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Good read, very interesting. I have a dual core with 2GB Ram, seems like my EPL-BQ N/S, Seria A and La Liga games should run fine. Woot woot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyboyz Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 I'm famous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Pacalypse Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Great news for me, better than any feature to be honest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 I'm famous Me too pomps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 This is indeed good news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmobande Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 wow great news lol fm 10 has gone faster YES now i can put more then 23 leagues and not worry about speed !!!! NICE WORK SI Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
damienroden Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Here you gohttp://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/blogs/football-manager-2010/Football-Manager-2010-new-features-blog-Day-23-Speed-tests-and-Paulo-Nutini-article180613.html Were you on the site refreshing?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie MUFC Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Ooh, this news is yummy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandmanager Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 i don't mind "patient saturday match days" with full detail but the speed will certainly please me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
damienroden Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Miles - In the first paragraph you say QA and Sega are trying to 'break the game'. Does this meaning they are trying to find faults with it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandmanager Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Miles - In the first paragraph you say QA and Sega are trying to 'break the game'. Does this meaning they are trying to find faults with it? no they are literally trying to sabotage the game and smirk at miles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philly_flyer10 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Nutini? I had to look up who he was, he sounded like a dodgy regen. I dont really care about the processing speed as it goes as fast as I can keep up with anyway. The thing I really hated was the incredibly slow GUI where youd need 2 or 3 clicks every time you wanted to do something because the game was running at 100% cpu. Hopefully this is fully fixed even if it means only 80 or 90% is used for processing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmA Deo Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share Posted October 5, 2009 beat me by seconds.... Hehe, sorry about that Were you on the site refreshing?? Haha, not really. I'm at work and thought I had to check the blogs! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 great interview Paulo Nutini but you said b****d miles u naughty boy lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rb Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Miles - In the first paragraph you say QA and Sega are trying to 'break the game'. Does this meaning they are trying to find faults with it? Yes QA testing or 'Quality assurance' basically tries to make sure that any obvious game breaking bugs don't come out with the release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
axis88lw Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Nutini? I had to look up who he was, he sounded like a dodgy regen. Yeah i don't know he is but he supported Led Zeppelin so respect on that. I saw him on Sky Sports News a while back raving about Celtic, might check him out on youtube. Its good that the game speed is much faster cos ive got a decent PC. Intel Core 2 Quad 2.33GHz and 4GB RAM so hopefully i can run a large variation of leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 i hope that having a quad core helps with the speed aswell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highor Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 very nice, i love to run much league's at ones, like 8. So the speed will be nice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee50_11 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 very interesting blog good news on the speed which everyone will appreciate, nice to see it tested on different peoples machines also Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevgaleuk Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Can anyone explain the full detail element (I can't be bothered to find the old box and read the manual) Am I right in assuming it is as simple as on the "Detail Level" tab of game status turning them to full detail runs each game rather than just generating a result? Obviously as results are generated for league and cup comps what does full detail over none provide? Probably a dumb question in truth but as I have never ever changed this from the default; just run the 20 odd countries and various leagues in the past so curious to see whether I should be customising in '10? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGB_SPURS_FM09 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Do you have any stats on FM08 on the same test machine, so that you could compare it with fm10 to see if its even faster then 08? Which was about perfect speed wise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Liam Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Great news about the speed, which means I should be able to go back to my FM2008 set-up of about 18 leagues. I think I went for 13 + enough players for each international team to have a squad on 09 and it is visibly slower, although not that bad as my PC is pretty good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Miles Jacobson Posted October 5, 2009 SI Staff Share Posted October 5, 2009 Miles - In the first paragraph you say QA and Sega are trying to 'break the game'. Does this meaning they are trying to find faults with it? Yes - trying to crash it, basically. Do you have any stats on FM08 on the same test machine, so that you could compare it with fm10 to see if its even faster then 08? Which was about perfect speed wise With full match engine, FM10 is slightly slower. Without full match engine, FM10 is much faster. So unless you turn crank everything up to maximum detail, the game will be faster than FM08. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIR669CRO Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Yes - trying to crash it, basically. Let's hope they don't succeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGB_SPURS_FM09 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 With full match engine, FM10 is slightly slower.Without full match engine, FM10 is much faster. So unless you turn crank everything up to maximum detail, the game will be faster than FM08. Nice thanks for the reply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Miles Jacobson Posted October 5, 2009 SI Staff Share Posted October 5, 2009 Let's hope they don't succeed. That's what I'm hoping too, as we could all do with some sleep! Although I'd rather they find something wrong now, than something be found when the game is released Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason24 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 speed tests-I thought it was going to be a new club fitness feature, with physios giving you detailed feedback on the progression or deterioration of your players based on in game tests, heralding a new era wherein all players in the game age uniquely based upon physiological makeup, lifestyle etc giving you perfect 40 yr old specimens (Maldini) and washed up fat 29 yr olds (naming no names) oh well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandmanager Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 washed up fat 29 yr olds (naming no names) andy robinson of leeds? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIAM_TM Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 i love fm but know virtually nothin about pc specs so i'll write down what i've got and could someone who understands it all tell me if its good enough and how many leagues/countries i could run!!??? processor = intel core 2 duo mobile processor p7350 operating system = windows vista home premium memory = 4096mb ddr2 ram hard drive = 250gb optical drive = super multi dvd+rw graphics card = intel centrino 2 integrated ( also have a sticker sayin graphics by nvidia) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silva_gunner Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 processor = intel core 2 duo mobile processor p7350 operating system = windows vista home premium memory = 4096mb ddr2 ram hard drive = 250gb optical drive = super multi dvd+rw graphics card = intel centrino 2 integrated ( also have a sticker sayin graphics by nvidia) That should run FM10 quite well, although it may well struggle with 3D. Only other thing i can say is that your processor isn't too good from what i can tell. Might slow it down a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suge Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 I always thought Paulo Nutini was Italian. Jesus, Rab C. Nesbit or what. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIR669CRO Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Let's hope I'll play it like FM09. Intel P4 2,00GHz (single-core) 768MB RAM DDR@~200MHz x1600 ATI Radeon graphics card XP Pro SP2 I have several 3-league-saved-games in which I played for almost 10 seasons "smoothly" (for my occasions). I don't use 3D and I won't use it in FM 2010, but I hope it could go normal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUsualSuspect9 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Whats the difference between Full Match detail than without? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 bit of useless info for you Paulo Nutini is on graham nortan show next week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DietSpam Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Get it round you, Paulo. 2-1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorge Campos Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Miles, is no testing being done with added players from nations or first divisions? Very disappointed to see that the so-called "Dream Team" testers are simply playing with a large database with one minor exception where he's added a small bit to his database. This in no way informs my potential game speed, because I always load additional players from all first divisions in the database or similar configurations. At the large setting, the database is far too small to have a fully realistic football world where the top clubs on various continents are truly represented. Could someone please do some testing using DDT files or the new functions that allow you to retain all national team players, first division players, etc.? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rb Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Miles, is no testing being done with added players from nations or first divisions? Very disappointed to see that the so-called "Dream Team" testers are simply playing with a large database with one minor exception where he's added a small bit to his database.This in no way informs my potential game speed, because I always load additional players from all first divisions in the database or similar configurations. At the large setting, the database is far too small to have a fully realistic football world where the top clubs on various continents are truly represented. Could someone please do some testing using DDT files or the new functions that allow you to retain all national team players, first division players, etc.? They have a standard set of tests they do every year to benchmark against previous versions. The options are infinite and I would much prefer they actually test the game for bugs as appose to doing benchmark tests which you can do yourself when the game is out. What is clear is the game is faster. Which is only a good thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macflyer Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Sounds great! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorge Campos Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 What is clear is the game is faster. Which is only a good thing. This is not clear until they test the game under more conditions. They may have made the game faster with the standard database settings, and it would stand to reason that faster speed at those configurations should allow faster speeds when retaining many more players and staff. But until they test it and confirm, then why bother to talk about how much faster the game is? We need to see more thorough testing under more conditions. Maybe the game is 16% faster under one condition but it's only going to be 5% faster or maybe even slower under another. It would be good to know in advance, otherwise why bother doing the speed testing anyway? Just let everyone buy the game and figure it out for themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Miles Jacobson Posted October 6, 2009 SI Staff Share Posted October 6, 2009 This is not clear until they test the game under more conditions. They may have made the game faster with the standard database settings, and it would stand to reason that faster speed at those configurations should allow faster speeds when retaining many more players and staff. But until they test it and confirm, then why bother to talk about how much faster the game is?We need to see more thorough testing under more conditions. Maybe the game is 16% faster under one condition but it's only going to be 5% faster or maybe even slower under another. It would be good to know in advance, otherwise why bother doing the speed testing anyway? Just let everyone buy the game and figure it out for themselves. Jorge - if you look at the interviews of just a handful of our beta testers, most of them say what their set ups are, and there are some pretty big databases being used there. I have not seen a single comment from the beta test of anyone who thinks the game is anything but much faster than 9.03. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopToffee Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 This is not clear until they test the game under more conditions. They may have made the game faster with the standard database settings, and it would stand to reason that faster speed at those configurations should allow faster speeds when retaining many more players and staff. But until they test it and confirm, then why bother to talk about how much faster the game is?We need to see more thorough testing under more conditions. Maybe the game is 16% faster under one condition but it's only going to be 5% faster or maybe even slower under another. It would be good to know in advance, otherwise why bother doing the speed testing anyway? Just let everyone buy the game and figure it out for themselves. do you think maybe, just MAYBE there are more important things for the testers to be doing than running god knows how many soak tests under countless different database conditions, just to figure out every potential speed difference between 09 and 10? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrekiejai Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 What's the bet that people read this blog and decides to play 10-15 extra leagues, then come here and complain their FM 2010 is slower than FM 2009? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorge Campos Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 do you think maybe, just MAYBE there are more important things for the testers to be doing than running god knows how many soak tests under countless different database conditions, just to figure out every potential speed difference between 09 and 10? No. What the hell else are testers for than to test things like this? If they haven't already tested for the obvious bugs and major issues with the game, then we'll all be getting a crap product on October 30. At this stage the testers should have the time to work on issues like speed differences. If they're still working on core issues, then the timeline for this game is wrong and they need to change the development cycle dramatically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Some testers have clearly stated that they use retain players files and state the number of players and leagues. They've covered the set-up I have in mind and it is great news indeed. What hasn't been mentioned is the 3D match engine. The FM09 one in my laptop is very stuttery - has this been improved for FM10, i.e. with the same graphics card will the 3D run more smoothly, the same or less smoothly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Hall Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 With full match engine, FM10 is slightly slower.Without full match engine, FM10 is much faster. So unless you turn crank everything up to maximum detail, the game will be faster than FM08. So my old computer that can run FM08 can run FM10? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Funk Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 With full match engine, FM10 is slightly slower. Without full match engine, FM10 is much faster. Do you mean the "max detail thing in simulating games.."? May I ask: how do the suggested setup (league loaded) when you create a new game work? What's the criteria? It feels to me that it never take care of database size or edt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdunk Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 No. What the hell else are testers for than to test things like this?If they haven't already tested for the obvious bugs and major issues with the game, then we'll all be getting a crap product on October 30. At this stage the testers should have the time to work on issues like speed differences. If they're still working on core issues, then the timeline for this game is wrong and they need to change the development cycle dramatically. Just because all the big bugs (presumably) have been fixed, doesn't mean they shouldn't be testing for more bugs. In a game as complicated as FM, you can never test every element of the game completely, so the more time the testers spend playing the game under real world conditions, the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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