Astafjevs Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) I feel like anyone who isn't supporting England or whoever their national team is at this World Cup is all in on Argentina. Let's come together my brothers and sisters. Argentina qualify with any one of these scenarios: * They win * They draw, and Saudi Arabia don't win in the other game. Or if Mexico win by three goals or fewer. (There's actually more to it as well but CBA to type it all out) Poland qualify with: * A win * A draw * A loss, providing Saudi Arabia don't win the other game. The loss also has to be small enough to prevent them being overtaken on GD, because a Saudi Arabia draw can also be enough in certain scenarios to knock a defeated Poland out if Poland lose by 3 goals. Edited November 30, 2022 by Astafjevs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris79 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) Let's repeat this: Edited November 30, 2022 by chris79 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted November 30, 2022 Author Share Posted November 30, 2022 Saudi Arabia qualify with: * A win * A draw, but Argentina have to lose the other game Mexico qualify with: * Only a win will do. They also need help from the other game. If Argentina lose, any win is enough. If Argentina draw, Mexico need to win by 4 goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 C'mon Argentina and Mexico! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) Feels like Scaloni is making panic changes for the sake of it. Lautaro scored 11 and has 5 assists in 20 official matches leading to World Cup, scores from that minimal offside against Saudis and another offside goal, then is completely isolated against Mexico's catenaccio, but he's the victim? And he was the only player up front capable of pressing. Now he fields Alvarez who's even less of a #9 against Poland that will no doubt employ more or less the same tactics? Pressure definitely got to him, let's see if Messi or Di Maria can bail him out. Funniest thing of it all that we'll probably have Argentina-Netherlands QF, with both teams being really unimpressive. Edited November 30, 2022 by GunmaN1905 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Argentina will step up tonight. 2-0 win, top of the group, avoid France. That's because I'm going for Mexico to finally show up, batter the Saudis, and sneak through on goal difference. I mean, they always find a way into the last 16. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Argentina love to complicate their group stage, I suppose they will end up qualifying with a last minute goal or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Messi goes ahead of Maradona with his 22nd World Cup game for Argentina. Only Matthaus (25), Klose (24), and Maldini (23) ahead of him now on the all-time list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted November 30, 2022 Author Share Posted November 30, 2022 Their lineup graphic makes it look as if it's 4-3-3 but I suspect it will be 4-4-2 again with MacAllister on the left in the Lo Celso role Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Like to see a big gun rattled but I don't want to see any more of this slow Poland team, hopefully the Saudis take the lead and both teams have something at stake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Just now, The_jagster said: Like to see a big gun rattled but I don't want to see any more of this slow Poland team, hopefully the Saudis take the lead and both teams have something at stake. I don't think Poland will start attacking as long as they're not losing, they'd be happy with second place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 How old will Glik look in 10 years 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantine Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 I wonder how badly di Maria and De Paul have to play to be dropped from the squad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted November 30, 2022 Author Share Posted November 30, 2022 The difference between winning this group and coming second is huge. There's probably other examples, but I feel like it's one of the biggest differences between 1st and 2nd I can remember. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Looks like Mexico is putting serious pressure on Saudis, they'd need to score a few if Argentina draws to overtake them on GD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said: Now he fields Alvarez who's even less of a #9 against Poland that will no doubt employ more or less the same tactics Not sure why you keep saying this, Alvarez has played the majority of games for us as a no.9 and its the only position he played for River Plate for the previous year Edited November 30, 2022 by Barry Cartman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Just now, Barry Cartman said: Not sure why you keep saying this, Alvarez is played the majority of games for us as a no.9 and its the only position he played for River Plate #9 -> striker with physicality who's especially useful against teams that park the bus, he can play with his back to the goal, keep defenders busy, win duels in the air and lay off passes. Lautaro isn't one, Alvarez even less so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Poland have given Argentina's midfield a lot of space so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Argentina somehow looking slower than Poland. Poland clearly going for the narrow "don't allow midfield space" option so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted November 30, 2022 Author Share Posted November 30, 2022 Argentina don't play with much width so it makes sense. Di María is narrow. MacAllister basically plays as a central midfielder. They leave space for fullbacks that just aren't very good. You'd be quite happy to let Acuña and Molina have the ball if you're Poland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Alvarez bottles it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 That's three times they've done nothing apart from hope Lewandowski dribbles past 5 defenders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Poland are very bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted November 30, 2022 Author Share Posted November 30, 2022 Szczesny should be 'catching that' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Yeah I've thought they look a bit grim in a few matches I've seen of them...kinda hope Argies and Saudis get through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Astafjevs said: Szczesny should be 'catching that' Murphy absolutely thinks any time a keeper doesn't hold onto the ball is "poor keeping" doesn't he Edited November 30, 2022 by Pukey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Lautaro would've had 2 by now, just saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Are Poland seriously going to defend for 90 minutes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Nearly picked his nose 😁😁😁 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 That's not a penalty. Why is it even going to VAR?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted November 30, 2022 Author Share Posted November 30, 2022 Lautaro would have had 2 offsides by now, absolutely 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Oh **** off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Alvarez shinned it a little. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 That's not a pen ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carninho Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Just now, Pukey said: Murphy absolutely thinks any time a keeper doesn't hold onto the ball is "poor keeping" doesn't he he did play quite a bit with David James to be fair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Just now, georginho_juventusygr said: Are Poland seriously going to defend for 90 minutes? Well they are top as it stands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 If this is a penalty, game is truly gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Can’t believe they’re gonna give a pel for this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Shouldn't even be going to VAR ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 minute ago, GunmaN1905 said: Lautaro would've had 2 by now, just saying. They'd have both been offside Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 If that's a penalty, the games gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 He'll give it because there's "contact" and he's been called out by VAR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted November 30, 2022 Author Share Posted November 30, 2022 God that's another appalling decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carninho Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 It's an accidental collision. Also a pretty minor one at that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 **** off is that a penalty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Dickhead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orzelek Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 That such a soft penalty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOORAY HENRIK Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Ahahaha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Oh **** off. Jokes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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