Nonlondoner Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Court cases pending or not, SI Games will have to follow FIFA's lead and remove Mason Greenwood or give players the facility to remove him from their new and save games immediately. If you or anyone you know is suffering from violent abuse, you are not alone, seek help immediately. If you can't face speaking to the police yet....... https://www.samaritans.org 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
santy001 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Sadly this isn't the first time a player has been suspended by their club following legal action. There is a well established precedent for how they deal with it in FM. It is nice to see something is finally high profile enough to elicit a response from EA though. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikeologist Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 In these kind of circumstances they remove the player from the game at the next db update. Of course there's an argument for doing it straight away, but it seems this is their policy. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Next data update is likely to be soon anyway... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Miles have said this: And just in case anyone does not know. Please don't discuss ongoing UK legal matters here. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DP Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Sensible. But why my post was deleted when I suggested it in the data forum is a bit weird from the mods Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc.cadoni Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 40 minutes ago, DP said: Sensible. But why my post was deleted when I suggested it in the data forum is a bit weird from the mods Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 I will keep hiding posts that break the rules, you know who you are. If you are unwilling to do so and continue, the mod team might have to step in further. For any questions regarding this look at the linked Tweet from Miles and the post by Neil as to why we cannot discuss it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterKano Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, XaW said: I will keep hiding posts that break the rules, you know who you are. If you are unwilling to do so and continue, the mod team might have to step in further. For any questions regarding this look at the linked Tweet from Miles and the post by Neil as to why we cannot discuss it. You hid my question? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Just now, MasterKano said: You hid my question? Yes, since it is about an ongoing court case, and that is something we are not to discuss here. UK law still reigns here. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterKano Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, XaW said: Yes, since it is about an ongoing court case, and that is something we are not to discuss here. UK law still reigns here. Surely the whole thread should be hidden then? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, MasterKano said: Surely the whole thread should be hidden then? That is an option, but for now it can stay up, provided no one talks about the case. This might mean that others who wonder will have the same info rather than start new threads. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicForza Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 This can easily be done with the Pre-Game Editor prior to statrting a new game. (Player) - Player Data - Bans - Add - Select Ban Type and set start and end dates 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phd_angel Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 15 hours ago, XaW said: Miles have said this: And just in case anyone does not know. Please don't discuss ongoing UK legal matters here. Players should be removed based on moral grounds, not on legal basis. "Not everything that is legal is moral" is the first thing you learn on Law school. Example, the Apartheid was legal, slavery was legal. Civil disobedience was illegal, interracial marriage was illegal. So, if a club sues a player based on some contract disagreement, will SI get rid of the player?!... This needs to be revised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasonen Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 4 hours ago, phd_angel said: Players should be removed based on moral grounds, not on legal basis. "Not everything that is legal is moral" is the first thing you learn on Law school. Example, the Apartheid was legal, slavery was legal. Civil disobedience was illegal, interracial marriage was illegal. So, if a club sues a player based on some contract disagreement, will SI get rid of the player?!... This needs to be revised. That just never ever going to happen It would mean FM becomes the judge who is not moral enough. SI moral office would have to be built too because the case numbers would be massive. Which would basicly be start of an end to rights use player real names in games. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 7 hours ago, phd_angel said: Players should be removed based on moral grounds, not on legal basis. "Not everything that is legal is moral" is the first thing you learn on Law school. Example, the Apartheid was legal, slavery was legal. Civil disobedience was illegal, interracial marriage was illegal. So, if a club sues a player based on some contract disagreement, will SI get rid of the player?!... This needs to be revised. This is a football game... if a player isn't a part of a football teams squad, or any squad, and unable to play football.. of course they will be taken out of the game... Morality isn't a factor while a court case is pending 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentonizking Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Has David Goodwillie remained in the game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, kentonizking said: Has David Goodwillie remained in the game? That's a good example, actually. Certainly guilty but never convicted. Where do you draw the line? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentonizking Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, phnompenhandy said: That's a good example, actually. Certainly guilty but never convicted. Where do you draw the line? I don't know if he has remained, but it touches on a wider debate about rehabilitation and forgiveness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
santy001 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 5 hours ago, phnompenhandy said: That's a good example, actually. Certainly guilty but never convicted. Where do you draw the line? At players who are suspended by their clubs indefinitely due to on going legal issues. It seemed quite clear. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 8 hours ago, kentonizking said: I don't know if he has remained, but it touches on a wider debate about rehabilitation and forgiveness In a Christian sense, forgiveness can't be given if the perp never confesses his sin and asks for forgiveness. Apparently, the man has no remorse for his actions. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeDub Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 On 02/02/2022 at 07:10, XaW said: Yes, since it is about an ongoing court case, and that is something we are not to discuss here. UK law still reigns here. You aren't allowed to talk about ongoing court cases in the UK? Sorry, but that's ****ed up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 33 minutes ago, PeeDub said: You aren't allowed to talk about ongoing court cases in the UK? Sorry, but that's ****ed up. FYI: https://community.sigames.com/forums/topic/379962-discussing-ongoing-uk-legal-cases/ Please also watch your language on the forums Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 4 hours ago, PeeDub said: You aren't allowed to talk about ongoing court cases in the UK? Sorry, but that's ****ed up. I agree, I'm not from the UK and it sounds strange to me too, but this forum follows UK law, so that's why it has to be like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethjohn79 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 8 hours ago, PeeDub said: You aren't allowed to talk about ongoing court cases in the UK? Sorry, but that's ****ed up. Cases could collapse due to information released on a public forum would you be happy if a rape case got dismissed due to somthing read on here? Better to shut the **** up if you don't know what your talking about. A Forum member here has discussed a case when he was on the jury it was the case was easily indentifiable by what he was posting, which is illegal if it'd been spotted by the defendants they could have used it to get the case dismissed if it's still availbe for viewing is it possible to have the case retried? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Closing this as it's going round in circles, there's nothing new to add and people are running the risk of getting themselves in trouble. Miles has made SI's position clear on this subject. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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