Heartwork Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 35 minutes ago, ginnybob said: It's a good point that police officers often don't actually know the law themselves. Think we will see a lot more of this over the coming days. You would hope officers would be given clear direction as to what constitutes a breach...but I won't hold my breath. Stupid thing is, cracking down on the slightest sign of anti-monarchy is only going to encourage more ardent republicans to gather in protest, cos in their eyes this overkill from the police is proof of how authoritarian the UK is and getting arrested is what they want, it justifies their beliefs. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anagain Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Heartwork said: Stupid thing is, cracking down on the slightest sign of anti-monarchy is only going to encourage more ardent republicans to gather in protest, cos in their eyes this overkill from the police is proof of how authoritarian the UK is and getting arrested is what they want, it justifies their beliefs. They weren't all out shouting about abolishing the monarchy last week or the week before? Loud mouthed milennials or gen z trying to grab attention or get the police some more negtaive attention when they're just doing their job. Yes, I'm old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Did they all shut for Diana's? Was a Saturday iirc. Work hadn't said what was what when i went home but we don't normally work them and one of our corporate sites was featured yesterday quite extensively to the West of Queensferry Bridge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Just now, anagain said: They weren't all out shouting about abolishing the monarchy last week or the week before? Loud mouthed milennials or gen z trying to grab attention or get the police some more negtaive attention when they're just doing their job. Yes, I'm old. It's almost like now is entirely the right time to be protesting the monarchy when a new monarch is proclaimed. "Just doing their job"...except they're not doing their job, are they? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) You can protest any time, but choosing to do so directly in front of thousands of grieving people is a dick move. You're not protesting, you're trolling people. Edited September 12, 2022 by Ackter 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 You can protest any time...except this time? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Just now, ginnybob said: You can protest any time...except this time? I didn't question the time, I questioned the place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vynal Seven Posted September 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ackter said: You can protest any time, but choosing to do so directly in front of thousands of grieving people is a dick move. You're not protesting, you're trolling people. There isn’t thousands of grieving people. There’s about 8 grieving people and thousands of sycophants. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Ackter said: I didn't question the time, I questioned the place. Where do you suggest people protest? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Just now, ginnybob said: Where do you suggest people protest? Not in front of thousands of grieving people, or not when running alongside the hearse, for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthrax Dave Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Do we get another Bank Holiday on the day Charles is crowned? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Ackter said: Not in front of thousands of grieving people, or not when running alongside the hearse, for example. Gotcha. Hidden away where the thing you're protesting isn't actually happening. So pretty much the way the government wants protests to function going forward. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardeepR Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Anthrax Dave said: Do we get another Bank Holiday on the day Charles is crowned? Almost certainly 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, ginnybob said: Gotcha. Hidden away where the thing you're protesting isn't actually happening. So pretty much the way the government wants protests to function going forward. The thing they're protesting isnt happening where these people are doing these things. This is a long drawn out overblown funeral. Go protest the coronation, go protest public appearances where their mum isn't dead in a box. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) These people aren't protesting anyway, theyre using protest as an excuse to be a bunch of ***** to loads of people ad to be the centre of attention. This is essentially no different to me going into the Dr. Who thread to say it sucks. Edited September 12, 2022 by Ackter 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Just now, Ackter said: These people aren't protesting anyway, theyre using protest as an excuse to be a bunch of ***** to loads of people ad to be the centre of attention. I do agree with the general point you are making but this is the same logic that means people aren't actually grieving but pretending to be sad about an old woman dying. A lot of protesters are attention seekers but still believe in the cause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gricehead Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 35 minutes ago, Astafjevs said: Instead of abolishing the monarchy we should be more focused on trying to abolish the police force and replacing them with competent, semi-intelligent individuals. Thing is, most competent semi-intelligent people don't want to stand and be abused by drunks in town on a Saturday night, or on a Saturday afternnon on football duties, or have bricks chucked at them for just turning up to a 999 call. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 minute ago, The_jagster said: I do agree with the general point you are making but this is the same logic that means people aren't actually grieving but pretending to be sad about an old woman dying. A lot of protesters are attention seekers but still believe in the cause. That's there's only like 5 people doing the "protesting" has me highly questioning their motives. Protests are usually organised and follow strict rules. THere'll be a huge % of people there only pretending to grieve as well, but there's more than enough crazy people there who are genuinely grieving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Ackter said: The thing they're protesting isnt happening where these people are doing these things. This is a long drawn out overblown funeral. Go protest the coronation, go protest public appearances where their mum isn't dead in a box. Alongside a funeral we've simultaneously been forced to have a new monarch. That didn't wait for people to have a grieving period. Edited September 12, 2022 by ginnybob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Ackter said: That's there's only like 5 people doing the "protesting" has me highly questioning their motives. Protests are usually organised and follow strict rules. THere'll be a huge % of people there only pretending to grieve as well, but there's more than enough crazy people there who are genuinely grieving. That we've heard about being arrested, it might be that more people have protested with no further action. The one in Oxford wasn't an official ceremony but where each village/town/city had its own commemoration. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazkul Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-62881726 People are crazy!! (though honestly I'm not surprised people are already queuing already) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, ginnybob said: Alongside a funeral we've simultaneously been forced to have a new monarch. That didn't wait for people to have a grieving period. Yes, so go protest the coronation when it happens, or a public appearance that's not leading up to a funeral. The only thing you're doing by protesting now is upsetting people and reducing the effectiveness of your protest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, ginnybob said: Gotcha. Hidden away where the thing you're protesting isn't actually happening. So pretty much the way the government wants protests to function going forward. Do you support the protests of the Westboro Baptist Church at soldiers funerals? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 How the **** am I the voice of reason here? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardeepR Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 I’ll be honest this royal vigil ain’t great tv.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 48 minutes ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: Very little will be open next Monday, will be like Christmas Day basically. Except every pub will be full and we've got work the day after. Ah well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Harryseaess said: Do you support the protests of the Westboro Baptist Church at soldiers funerals? Are the people protesting right now protesting against the person who died? Or are they protesting against the monarch coming in, which is a simultaneous act? Edited September 12, 2022 by ginnybob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton1987 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 This is thrilling TV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Just now, ginnybob said: Are the people protesting right now protesting against the person who died? They’re protesting the monarchy, so yes. And the Westboro Baptist Church protest against all soldiers etc. not just the one who’s funeral they’re at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Harryseaess said: They’re protesting the monarchy, so yes. And the Westboro Baptist Church protest against all soldiers etc. not just the one who’s funeral they’re at. They have a right to protest. Funnily enough being a dick isn't a reason to be arrested, otherwise there would be a few people on this forum in trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, ginnybob said: They have a right to protest. Funnily enough being a dick isn't a reason to be arrested, otherwise there would be a few people on this forum in trouble. Only a few? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 minute ago, ginnybob said: They have a right to protest. Funnily enough being a dick isn't a reason to be arrested, otherwise there would be a few people on this forum in trouble. Of course, but if you protest at a funeral or when a coffin is being paraded then you’re ****ing scum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, sc91 said: Except every pub will be full and we've got work the day after. Ah well. You don’t have to drink to oblivion.. Just saying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 19 minutes ago, Ackter said: How the **** am I the voice of reason here? You're not. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Harryseaess said: Of course, but if you protest at a funeral or when a coffin is being paraded then you’re ****ing scum. Neither of which was happening when the guy in Oxford got arrested. Edited September 12, 2022 by ginnybob 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, SouthCoastRed said: You don’t have to drink to oblivion.. Just saying Who said anything about that, few quiet ones always does the trick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 35 minutes ago, Drazkul said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-62881726 People are crazy!! (though honestly I'm not surprised people are already queuing already) Wonder how many people just want to make sure she's dead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Thought police..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Big Geordie said: Thought police..... I mean, that's the old bill in a nutshell. Self righteous *****. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 hour ago, ginnybob said: You can protest any time...except this time? The one thing I would say, is that (and similar to the young fella in the other example) they've probably stopped him from getting a punch on the mouth from someone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 You shouldn't be getting arrested for being a gobshite. But it also does feel like it can turn into one of those **** about and find out scenarios Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, titchuk said: Not sure I was expecting the monarchy to be quite as popular as it is the ABC1C2DE grading system is based entirely on occupation. I don't think its what people mean when they say about differences in social class here. There's also an issue in chucking them altogether, it wouldn't surprise me at all if support was highest among AB and DE and lower in C1 and C2 but it's impossible to say from the above image whether that is true or not. How ever you want to define 'Upper Class' - it's probably going to be 5% max of the population and a massive pro-monarchy opinion among them is easily swallowed up by these groupings. Edited September 12, 2022 by Rafalution 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 wish more gobshites were punished, so many around a few being punished for being gobshites will help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, scott MUFC said: wish more gobshites were punished, so many around a few being punished for being gobshites will help Yeah mate, if you don't agree with em, best they get shut up, init. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, scott MUFC said: wish more gobshites were punished, so many around a few being punished for being gobshites will help You sure YOU want a law against being a gobshite? 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 nah just punishments for people behaving like entitled gobshites in real life Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, anagain said: They weren't all out shouting about abolishing the monarchy last week or the week before? Loud mouthed milennials or gen z trying to grab attention or get the police some more negtaive attention when they're just doing their job. Yes, I'm old. As it's not possible to downvote on here I made this, especially for you: Edited September 12, 2022 by Rafalution 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, scott MUFC said: nah just punishments for people behaving like entitled gobshites in real life What sort of punishment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 i dunno, maybe the ones already written, instead of gobshites always being ignored Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 21 minutes ago, Rafalution said: the ABC1C2DE grading system is based entirely on occupation. I don't think its what people mean when they say about differences in social class here. There's also an issue in chucking them altogether, it wouldn't surprise me at all if support was highest among AB and DE and lower in C1 and C2 but it's impossible to say from the above image whether that is true or not. How ever you want to define 'Upper Class' - it's probably going to be 5% max of the population and a massive pro-monarchy opinion among them is easily swallowed up by these groupings. I think Upper Class is generally considered to be about 1% of the population max and as you've put statistically insignificant. Not necessarily the richest 1% but the small subset of people who can essentially live off wealth and investments with wealth in the family. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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