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Regarding the above, I have a full record of Treze players appearances and goals going back to 2nd half of 2012 season. footballzzz.co.uk and it's mirrors (ogol.com.br and zerozero.pt) are not reliable sources.

Beto played 3/0 in 2012 for Treze (round 16, 17 and 18 of Série C). 19/0 is correct for 2013.

Paulo Musse played 17/0 for Treze in 2015 (all but the last game of the first phase of Paraiba state championship). Also, his time at America T.O. in 2015 should probably be dropped from the record - he was reported (here) signing for them on 1st December 2014, but signed for Treze (reported here) ten days later (11th December 2014).

Last year's version all the State Leagues stopped working after 2015, iirc.

That's the FA rules. They don't apply to Football League, only National League (Conference) and below. Premier League also have their own rules.

Still don't know where the evidence for that penultimate line comes from (Maximum of 12 short-term loans (Only from English clubs)) - It's not in any of the rules published by the Football League as far as I can tell.

One of the key things to note is that, under FL rules (http://www.football-league.co.uk/global/section6.aspx) the concept of "Short Term Loans" is covered within "Emergency Loan" - which differs from the FA rules covering National League and below. I spend enough time explaining the loan rules to our own fans - and if I say so myself am now something of an expert at it. Anecdotally, even our own management and backroom staff don't fully comprehend them, so I can understand why there is confusion.

Rotherham fan here(!) The FA rules on loans posted above are superceded by Football League rules for Football League clubs. Under FL rules, there is no difference between "Short term" and "Emergency" loans FL rules are laid out in section 52 here: http://www.football-league.co.uk/global/section6.aspx There are no maximum quotas for emergency or youth loans, outwith the restrictions on the number in the match day squad and the restrictions on number of players loaned from one club. I can go into the details later of all our loans last year. And the year before. And the year before that. Mr Evans loves a loanee. However, I don't think it would add much value.

Oxford have never been in the Premiership They were in Division One in the 1980s (a.k.a. the time before football began)

Great story. I mean, we should be banning you from writing anything until Ratpack is finished, but nonetheless, great story!

The gaps between the versions I buy seems to be growing. Seriously considered FM15 but after a few weeks plugging away at the demo I couldn't get used to it. So back to FM12 for the moment.

Still pop in occasionally to see if there's anything new worth reading. Have about 3 or 4 stories on subscription/notification, but tend to go straight to the thread. In terms of writing, I still sometimes dig my FM05 Weston Super Mare "novel" out, and poke at it. Got it out in November thinking I might crack on with it as a NaNoWriMo project. Lasted two days before family life took over again.

I started a career with Magallanes in the Chile Primera B on FM12. Can't remember the exact details, but season was almost at climax with only about 8 or 9 games of the regular season left plus the playoffs. I won 1 in 11, just about surviving the playoffs, before getting sacked. After 6 months unemployed, I got the job of Tamworth, just relegated to the Conference North. I even managed to bring one of the dual-nationality players I had signed for Magallanes over with me to link me with the old club. Over the next 20 years I took Tamworth to 3rd in the PL and into the CL before eventually taking one of the "big club" jobs offered with Arsenal, in an attempt to win the European title. It wasn't a good move.

But on the other hand, it's pants to see an updated thread only to find it's a reader comment (deliberate irony)

Liverpool fans hammering that poll on ITV