ReggaeBwoy Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Funny the way fans so easily change attitudes to the team/manager. It happens, we will find our form again soon. Even if we lose to Juve I think we still will go through as I think they will find it very hard to beat Shakhtar at the Donbass Arena anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Poor defending and finishing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcoleman1 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 We should have won that game even though we didn't play too well. Sturridge could have had a hattrick or at least 2 goals. Also possible handball by Olsson (I think) in the first half could have been given as a penalty. He put his arms by his side but did move them towards the ball. Anyway, doesn't matter we should have done better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 I think RDM is out either Xmas or end of season regardless depending how soon you can attract Pep! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Some one should investigate this guy to see whether he is part of a betting scandal to perform **** every game. How do you turn so **** when you were a world class striker at Liverpool. He is still young and you would have thought this season with our attacking talent he would perform much better but no, same old player. It goes on Italy where players take part in these scandals, maybe that could be a reason to come to my mind of why he can't score. Not the fact that he does not score, he plays crap and slows the team down. The annoying thing amongst us Chelsea fans is that it is not like we are just making lame excuses and insults at Torres. The majority of fans on this forum and general fans away from the forums knew we should never go into the season with Torres as our no.1 striker, we all wanted Falcao, Cavani.... but no the board was under this illusion that Drogba going was going to free Torres mind and turn him into a goalscoring God... well no, didnt work out and the board, whoever decision it was to stick with Torres and Sturridge as our only 2 fit strikers should be blamed. It is ludicrous and now every single staff at Chelsea realizes Torres is **** they decide that January Falcao is our no.1 target where if we had just spent the money in January we wouldnt be in this situation. It is crazy the amount of games I can just predict Torres will start but not do a damn thing, same again today and tbh I can;t blame RDM when he is forced to stick with Torres, I am sure if he had his way he would of gone and spent on another striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 It was really funny when Mata came on and put atleast 3 through balls to sturridge making runs forward. I have never seen Torres do that this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcoleman1 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Torres is so shocking it's a joke. He doesn't even look remotely interested in going for the balls. If Mata puts Falcao through on those Sturridge balls he probably scores 3 goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 So lucky Manu lost as well. Keeps us close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Did Chelsea fans really chant what a waste of money to Torres today? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 It's quite shocking how inept we are at creating chances without Mata. The only thing worse than Sturridge's finishing today was Luiz's 'defending' Chalobah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRG_ Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 ****ing appalled that Ivanovic was dropped for Luiz. disgusting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Did Chelsea fans really chant what a waste of money to Torres today? Oh god I ****ing hope so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackJCFC Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Probably West Brom fans if anyone chanting that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcoleman1 Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 We need Falcao in January now, it's definitely gone past just wanting him. Our frontline isn't getting the goals and with someone like Falcao up front we would be so much more dangerous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Don't even need just Falcao, just someone who can score and will make runs for when the 3 amigos have the ball. Torres is lazy and can't score, the 2 worst attributes. Someone like Higuain should be available and for considerably less, anyone around that level will be good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 What an absolute mare we had in January 2011. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpain16 Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I'd even accept a donkey who can score, someone like Jelavić for example. Torres is just pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Bamfordinho Romario Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 should have created a b team and then this would not have happened We (Albion) played really well yesterday, but i cannot see there being a crisis at Chelsea, you will win the league IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted November 18, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted November 18, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 what a boss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Torres lasted just 63 minutes before Di Matteo was forced to withdraw him from the firing line at the Hawthorns and he looks set to resume the bench warming duties that became his stable diet last season in Chelsea's biggest game of the season so far."If I believe it is the right thing to do for the team, then yeah, I will leave him out," Di Matteo said. "When we moved Daniel Sturridge up there, he looked a danger. He had a very good chance saved by the keeper and another put wide. He was always a threat to the defence. We need to score goals, this is clear." Well done! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcoleman1 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 More speculation that he is going to go back to Spain, hopefully we can use him as part of the Falcao deal as it must be clear to all at the club now that it isn't working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robokid87 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Apparently Ash is fit for tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 A small dressing room row after losing against West Brom. Hopefully it is not something serious as we go Juventus. Chelsea defender David Luiz has confirmed that voices were raised in the Blues' dressing room after their 2-1 defeat against West Bromwich Albion at the Hawthorns made it four Premier League games without a victory.BBC Radio Five Live and other media outlets reported that furious rows involving manager Roberto Di Matteo, staff and players could be heard in the aftermath of the loss. Reports said shouting could be heard in the nearby home dressing room and the corridor outside as players, believed to include goalkeeper Petr Cech, voiced their anger about the defensive frailties that led to the defeat. One club employee was reportedly heard saying: "Call yourselves a Champions League-winning side and you can't beat them?" A player apparently yelled: "That's rubbish, and you know it." Luiz said: "We were upset and angry, disappointed because we should have won the game. "There were raised voices. It's normal. This is a big club and we don't like to lose games. But all we can do now is look ahead to the next game." "It's not good at the moment, because we started the season at the top of the league. But all the big teams have come to West Brom and it has not been easy for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 well if it knocks some sense into them.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robokid87 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 If anyone has a right to be pissed off about the defence it's Cech tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I dunno why people keep talking about a Torres/Falcao swap deal, it isn't going to happen for the simple fact is that Atletico would never be able to afford Torres wages these days. If Chelsea want Falcao they'll just have to stump up the cash like everyone else. As much as a Torres for Falcao swap deal seems to make sense logistically it just would never work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 It's a good thing they're shouting after losing a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcoleman1 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I dunno why people keep talking about a Torres/Falcao swap deal, it isn't going to happen for the simple fact is that Atletico would never be able to afford Torres wages these days. If Chelsea want Falcao they'll just have to stump up the cash like everyone else. As much as a Torres for Falcao swap deal seems to make sense logistically it just would never work. Unless Torres fancies taking a nice pay-cut Big game tonight as it is on Sunday. I think Sturridge to start up front but have no idea who will be playing behind him. Some rumours he may drop Hazard to the bench but who knows. If Sturridge plays well then it would be good to see him there again come Sunday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 No reason to drop Hazard unless he is tired. Was the scorer last game afterall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyosullivan Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 No reason to drop Hazard unless he is tired. Was the scorer last game afterall.Maybe to keep him fresh for Man City game? Can Moses not play up front? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted November 20, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted November 20, 2012 No reason to drop Hazard unless he is tired. Was the scorer last game afterall. Tactical; Lichtsteiner destroyed us down the right in the first leg because he didn't help Cole. Bertrand will help that side much more. Play Hazard inside instead of Mata if you wanna keep Hazard in the team for this game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted November 20, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted November 20, 2012 Mind, it appears Hazard will be the centre forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Anybody think Torres and Falcao could make good strike partners? Can you afford both? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted November 20, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted November 20, 2012 I don't want both. If they had a good partnership it'd be 99% Falcao anyway. The end is nigh for Torres though, thankfully. Di Matteo's persisted with him for some 40 games now (just off my head as a figure), he's not cut it, and we're gonna see him roll with alternatives until he can get a new guy in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe__the__man Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Hazard up front could work really well anyway, should have tried it before now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Sturridge might have an injury, so its likely either Hazard or Moses is the striker today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 The end is nigh for Torres though, thankfully. Di Matteo's persisted with him for some 40 games now (just off my head as a figure), he's not cut it, and we're gonna see him roll with alternatives until he can get a new guy in. Can never accuse RDM of not giving him the chance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Sturridge might have an injury Broken dreams or a bruised ego? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Broken dreams or a bruised ego? Probably just the thought of being linked with Liverpool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcoleman1 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Will be interesting to see Hazard up front. Certainly has more pace and skill than Torres so that will help. Not hard to make better off the ball runs than him either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 So depressing to see Torres spoken of in such a way. He was genuinely one of the best strikers in the world just a few years ago, but has fallen so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 If i remember correctly, Hazard was anonymous as AMC against WB, as soon as he went left and Sturridge came in the middle immediately we started creating chances. I would like to see Moses as CF. And he was the best dribbler last game, always threatened when he dribbled from the wing to inside the box. Can do the same if he plays as striker thus lettings our other excellent players Hazard, Mata, Oscar get in goalscoring positions. This is what Torres should be doing atleast but doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 So depressing to see Torres spoken of in such a way. He was genuinely one of the best strikers in the world just a few years ago, but has fallen so far. You can have him back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt1389 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 If i remember correctly, Hazard was anonymous as AMC against WB, as soon as he went left and Sturridge came in the middle immediately we started creating chances. I would like to see Moses as CF. And he was the best dribbler last game, always threatened when he dribbled from the wing to inside the box. Can do the same if he plays as striker thus lettings our other excellent players Hazard, Mata, Oscar get in goalscoring positions. This is what Torres should be doing atleast but doesn't. Moses at CF would take away what is good about his game. He's better wide attacking a full back than he would be in the centre. Hazard and Mata swapping up top with Moses wide is better, although still not perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Not a fan of no striker, but not a fan of Torres either :/ Not sure what to think right now, think my head is going to explode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Hall Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Should play Mata upfront. View Raw Image" width="963.75" height="771"> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robokid87 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Cech; Ivanovic, Luiz, Cahill, Cole; Mikel, Rambo; Azpi, Oscar, Mata; Hazard. Seen us lining up from 4-2-3-1 to 3-5-2 to 5-2-3, reckon it's the former tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 That has to be 3 at the back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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