Unknown Hacker Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 you'd be mental not to take it As a Bristol City fan I honestly think that we should have bitten their arm off with that offer. I honestly think that Pitman is a better finisher than Maynard. Don't get me wrong I love the guy, and his goal against QPR was orgasmic, but at some point we have to realise that he's not just going to keep increasing in value. However I hate to say it but the futre looks bright for us Robins... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmers Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Really? With Millen in charge? He hasn't convinced me at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Hacker Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 I honestly don't think he has had a fair crack of it yet. And you don't know until you try do you? My undying optimism if going to kill me one day... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Jonathan Greening signed permanently for Forest, great signing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nottingham Forest Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Not on the OS yet cms. Or SSN. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Not on the OS yet cms. Or SSN. the official forest twitter account has tweeted it, as well as a couple of local journos, speculation its not on the OS yet cos it could be a double signing, but its done: http://twitter.com/#!/Official_NFFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nottingham Forest Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 It's on Sky Sports and BBC and yeah I've seen Twitter now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12874_7046412,00.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnzy Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Really? With Millen in charge? He hasn't convinced me at all. Millen took time to turn things around but we went on a good run, give him time he'll come good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnzy Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 As a Bristol City fan I honestly think that we should have bitten their arm off with that offer. I honestly think that Pitman is a better finisher than Maynard. Don't get me wrong I love the guy, and his goal against QPR was orgasmic, but at some point we have to realise that he's not just going to keep increasing in value. However I hate to say it but the futre looks bright for us Robins... I love Pitman, by far my favourite player at the moment. I honestly think if it was 5.3 million then we should have taken it - if that was a premier league club we would have taken it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 I think Blackpool will be an interesting prospect if they do get the players they've been linked with. Already signed Hill, Phillips (and Djordjic), linked with Barry Ferguson, Mame Biram Diouf and Nile Ranger. If they sign them it would be a sure sign that they're continuing with their "doesn't matter if you concede as long as you score more than them" tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIR17 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Eh? Why would you take it for a PL club and not from a Championship club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnzy Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 They've said they wont sell to a league rival. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIR17 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Really don't get that. Why would you sell him to one club for that price then but not another team just because they're in the same division as you? Surely you either want the money from the transfer or you don't? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Nile Ranger would not be a good signing for Blackpool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Depends. Holloway's managed to get players performing before (look at Luke Varney). Anyway I doubt he'll be first choice with Phillips and Diouf and/or Campbell (depending on whether talks break down between DJ and QPR). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnzy Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Really don't get that. Why would you sell him to one club for that price then but not another team just because they're in the same division as you? Surely you either want the money from the transfer or you don't? Not if we feel we can make a bid for promotion and you gain an advantage by having Maynard. Fwiw I don't think we will be near promotion, midtable for us this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Really don't get that. Why would you sell him to one club for that price then but not another team just because they're in the same division as you? Surely you either want the money from the transfer or you don't? Selling to a team in the same division hurts you twice as much. If City sold Tevez to Spurs, then Spurs would have gained 40 goals on Man City (20 scored by Tevez for Spurs, 20 not scored by Tevez for Man City), but if they sell him to Barcelona or Corinthians, then Spurs will only "gain" the 20 goals Tevez won't score for City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIR17 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Fair enough. Just seems that players move between Championship clubs all the time, can't really recall anyone ever turning down an offer they would accept otherwise for another Championship club before though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Not if we feel we can make a bid for promotion and you gain an advantage by having Maynard. Fwiw I don't think we will be near promotion, midtable for us this year. thats what i was thinking, i mean, i know the likes of leicester ( and forest ) are in the same league, but its a bit ambitious to describe us as rivals to Bristol city, and if Maynard isnt going to sign a new contract and no prem club comes in for him, youve just ****ed 5 million away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerChris Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Wands you're not a Blackpool fan, leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 I know I'm not, and in know way in this thread have I made and implications to the contrary. Anyway if you're not happy with me talking about Championship football in the Championship thread, you know what you can do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo7 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Robbie Neilson's contract has been mutually terminated. Disappointing stint with us; he seemed to be loved at his former club Hearts, but in all fairness, he looked poor every time he played and wasn't going to get a look in this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIR17 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 I disagree with him looking poor every time he played, he was one of the few bright sparks of the Sousa era. Can't fault his commitment, tried hard, but ultimately wasn't up to this level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo7 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Really? I agree he tried hard and gave his all but I would never have described him as one of our bright sparks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIR17 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 He definitely was one of the very few who came out of the Sousa "era" with any credit. Was playing well at the start of this season. Think he even scored his first goal in about 4 years or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebirds4life Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Guess who's back! Goodwillie to complete deal after his court case(will be succesfull) thursday or friday! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readingfanman Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 How much money have Leicester throw up the wall so far this summer now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 id guestimate at about 10 million in transfer fees alone, along with probably 75-100k on wages and tbh, bar Konchesky ( and id only want him because we dont actually have any natural left backs at the club atm ) and maybe Nugent, i wouldnt particually want any of them, and certainly not at the prices theyve paid. I mean, they could have had Roger Johnson for 2 million more than they paid for Mills ( though i assume johnson wanted to go back to the premiership, but its just a comparison ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oswaldo Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Leicester are basically assembling a very strong Championship squad. If the squad manages to gel quickly (ie before the end of October) and start performing to its capabilities then I have no doubt that they will go up automatically. It is of course a big IF. If that doesn;t happen and they take a long time to gel I think they could even struggle to make play offs as every other team in the division will now see the Leicester game as one of the biggest of the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 The thing is if Leciester do win promotion with that team they'll basically have to sign a whole new team to keep them in the premier league. It's very similar to QPR who went out and signed a load of good championship players and won the league but don't really have a team that looks like it will stay up without lots of investment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 yeah, i mean, look at the signings theyve made, how many would be good enough to keep them in the premiership, nugent isnt, konchesky could be, mills, not right now, but tbf, hes still relativly young, danns and peltier have no experience at that level ( that i know of ) and Kasper has only played a few games there. Sure, theyve go the money to spend that on those players, but it just seems a bit of a waste to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oswaldo Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 They are/have signed some of the better players in the Championship though so I think a few of them will be able to make the step up and be good enough to keep a team up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 yeah, im not saying they're signing bad players, just that they could get better for what theyve paid imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oswaldo Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Yeah agree with you there, but as soon as a club knows that Leicester are interested in one of their players the price will rise (unless its a player like Konchesky who Liverpool just wanted rid of). They had a lot of players on loan last season iirc so need to fill out their squad and look like they are choosing to spend big and have two quality players at this level for every position rather than having a mixture of good players and "stars" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Villa Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Neilson is on trial with us. Hopefully we sign him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIR17 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 What Oswaldo says is pretty much right. We had a very small squad once our loan players went back and SGE has basically been told it's promotion this season or his contract isn't getting renewed, so he had to do something. You have to also remember that he's completely changed our style of play from a defensive, direct side to a patient, attacking side (which I very much approve of), so a lot of the players left over from Pearson's tenure don't really fit our style at all. Although some of the prices are inflated, that's always going to happen when other teams know you have a big budget, but I think he's doing the right thing by putting together a squad of proven good Championship players with 2 or 3 good players in every position, rather than an excellent starting 11 with no depth over a 46 game season or not. It's all about whether the squad can get or not basically, if they can, I think we'll definitely be auto promotion contenders, if they don't it could be a different story. I said before I'd rather SGE was given 2 or 3 years to build, because I'd be very confident he'd get us promotion if so and we wouldn't be so eager to spend big this summer and could space it out over 2 or 3 years, but that's not going to happen. For me, it'd be very difficult for anyone to get a team promoted in one season given the squad we had at the beginning of June, regardless of budget and it's basically a case of how well this squad can gel. And I make it £9.25mil we've spent on transfer fees so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Apparantly, swansea and forest have had bids accepted for routledge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandmanager Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 isiah osbourne and j loyd samuel playing tonight in our friendly vs rochdale also an un named trialist rumoured to be emerenko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 getting a bit desperate to be scraping the barrel with osbourne and samuel arent you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Matt Mills doesn't know the meaning of the word patience, which was why Rodgers didn't pick him after spending £2m on him. Get ready for long balls for Nugent to chase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandmanager Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 rochdale 0 leeds 1 FT gradel the only scorer french trialist called alex mendy was playing aswell as samuels and osbourne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerChris Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Adebola scores the first in a 4-1 win v Ferriby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Dele proving his worth already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 was against a 7th tier team tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standard liege! Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 was against a 7th tier team tbf Found his level then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Stop with the Dele bashing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Stop with the Dele bashing Ha, hes a nice guy, but he is utterly shocking as a player now, cant finish to save his life Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 He never could finish . Though I have no doubt he's not the player he used to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnzy Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I loved Dele, but yeah couldnt finish to save his life. The He-Man of professional football. We beat Cheltenham 2-1 tonight, Maynard and Elliot got our goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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