soccer_ Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 So inter would rejected 100mil for Sneijder from Man City, but not from Chelsea are you saying? that makes no sense Infact, on further thought, I think they would even accept 100mil from AC Milan IRL.. they would accept probably 60mil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Man City, but it doesnt matter who i'm playing as (unless I was an Italian rival) - I could be Stoke making the 100mil bid and its still ridiculous for INter to turn it down It's not ridiculous. If they don't want to sell him, then they don't want to sell him. You gave them an astronomical amount of cash which they accepted, but he didn't want to leave the club. How is that not realistic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hershie Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 First instance I've seen of this, but it seems pretty extreme.I ask my board to fund the signing of Aguero (as Arsenal), they agree and bid £80m. He has a release clause of £52m. And now he joins for £80m. Seems so extreme. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 You're totally ignoring my point and just proving you're a fan boy who will play any old crap as long as it has the FM brand on it - i didn't say I expected Sneijder to leave, what I said was its stupid for him to outright reject talks with a club (whoever it may be) who are offering 177mil for your services, 100mil over the fee Madrid paid for Ronaldo - like any player wouldn't even LISTEN to such a club? This is whats broken, not the fact sneijder would go to city or not idiot Just because your daft enough to spend that on a player as no bearing on if he wants or will talk to you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robioto Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Man City, but it doesnt matter who i'm playing as (unless I was an Italian rival) - I could be Stoke making the 100mil bid and its still ridiculous for INter to turn it down - No Champions League - Lot's of money at City so you will be held to ransom - You obviously didn't try and negotiate the transfer fee - Snijeder is happy at Inter - Inter do not want to sell - Lower rep club - He is probably still on a long contract (possbily recently signed?) There are probably other factors but there are 6 clear ones that go against you. You are moaning about something that quite frankly isn't a problem. Oh and don't use the word fanboy, it makes you sound pathetic. Go to the flame wars on GameFAQs if you want to use that kind of talk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccer_ Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 It's not ridiculous. If they don't want to sell him, then they don't want to sell him. You gave them an astronomical amount of cash which they accepted, but he didn't want to leave the club. How is that not realistic? Just read my above points again before speaking, you're completely ignoring what I said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mansleg Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Reply #686 address' this one Yeah well done for actually reading what I posted. I understand that on a player profile his natural position is listed first but why not on the player search page? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccer_ Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 - No Champions League- Lot's of money at City so you will be held to ransom - You obviously didn't try and negotiate the transfer fee - Snijeder is happy at Inter - Inter do not want to sell - Lower rep club - He is probably still on a long contract There are probably other factors but there are 6 clear ones that go against you. You are moaning about something that quite frankly isn't a problem. What? There I'm talking specifically about whether Inter would accept 100mil for Sneijder or not idiot! This is like trying to argue with monkeys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allynod Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 mutually meens he has to agree just terminate doesnt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 You're totally ignoring my point and just proving you're a fan boy who will play any old crap as long as it has the FM brand on it - i didn't say I expected Sneijder to leave, what I said was its stupid for him to outright reject talks with a club (whoever it may be) who are offering 177mil for your services, 100mil over the fee Madrid paid for Ronaldo - like any player wouldn't even LISTEN to such a club? This is whats broken, not the fact sneijder would go to city or not idiot Don't be such a fool and bandy 'fanboy' around. If you had been here more than 2 minutes and had read any of my posts over the last 4/5 years you would see that I am perfectly capable of constructive criticism (by the way, constructive criticism is not saying 'Inter won't sell me Sneijder I'm not buying this game, thats called whining). There is no way a truly ambitious player would leave Inter for City right now. City ain't winning the CL this year or next probably whilst Inter are definitely in with a shout. Calm down and if you want to listen to people, its not just me there are plenty others, then do so. If not you really are wasting everyones time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoofe Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I think the reponces of players etc is been looked at as there are some bizzare ones wasnt so much the response of the player that i was questioning, but rather the options i had to respond to him that i found wanting. basically i could say "A" or "A plus" but no option "B" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawhide1983 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 is it only 1 player? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 What? There I'm talking specifically about whether Inter would accept 100mil for Sneijder or not idiot! This is like trying to argue with monkeys So there are 6 or 7 people (most of whom are good intelligent posters) who are making salient points and you just sit there going 'lalalalalala not listening'? Who's the monkey? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 What? There I'm talking specifically about whether Inter would accept 100mil for Sneijder or not idiot! This is like trying to argue with monkeys No you just keep adding diffrent things to the debate your original post was you could't belive inter rejected 100m for Sneijder.. now your just adding other things Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Just read my above points again before speaking, you're completely ignoring what I said You're saying that if someone offers you a big pile of cash, you'd automatically talk to them, yes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardi Golriz Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Positions – One of my major concerns. Player positions has turned into a confusing mess. In the player search tab a player came up as having these positions in the position column: M ©, AM (RLC), ST. On his profile the header detailing his positions was as follows: Attacking Midfielder (Centre) / M ©, AM (RL), ST. His natural position is AMC and I can tell this from the header on his profile as it occurs first and is not abbreviated. However, there is no indication that AMC is his best position in the player search column, which would suggest his natural position is MC. Another player came up as D/WB/M (L) in the player search, on his profile it became Midfielder (Left)/ D/WB (L). Why are there slashes between his different secondary positions rather than commas like the former player?! Also, in the tactics screen the ST positions are now STCL and STCR, is CR and CL really necessary? We can see where they are on the right hand side of the screen. I'm struggling to see why these were considered improvements :confused: Match Analysis screen – cant scroll down to see match information and referee information? 1) I think why there is no comma in 'D/WB (L)' is because how loosely associated the two positions are with one another. Have you found any other similar examples with other positions? I can understand why this is confusing however, and will investigate this in any case. As for why there's no consistency between the format used in the Title Bar and the position column in a player list table, this is because we didn't think it would work as well there given the size constraints. But, again this is something that will be reviewed. 2) Are you on a display resolution of 768 pixels in height in maximised windowed state? Try pressing 'restore down' on the window if you are. Thanks for the feedback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robioto Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 What? There I'm talking specifically about whether Inter would accept 100mil for Sneijder or not idiot! This is like trying to argue with monkeys Absolutely no need to get offensive. You are asking for explanations and people are giving them to you. Yet you choose to ignore them, if you don't agree or at least come back with proper constuctive counter arguments, go back to FM10 and avoid this topic as you are in the minority of one here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Riz Remes Posted October 21, 2010 SI Staff Share Posted October 21, 2010 Does this new "youth recruitment" feature determine a club's average regen quality? Does it fluctuate based on club reputation? Yes, "youth recruitment" affects the quality of newgens produced by the club youth system in terms of their potential. Reputation also factors into this though. Also, in the long run it is possible for the "youth recruitment" to fluctuate but it is a more static variable than youth/training facilities, since youth recruitment is not entirely up to the club but is also tied to geographics, club catchment area and general level of talent in the nation/region. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 wasnt so much the response of the player that i was questioning, but rather the options i had to respond to him that i found wanting.basically i could say "A" or "A plus" but no option "B" Well yeah same again i think its been looked at Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccer_ Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Don't be such a fool and bandy 'fanboy' around. If you had been here more than 2 minutes and had read any of my posts over the last 4/5 years you would see that I am perfectly capable of constructive criticism (by the way, constructive criticism is not saying 'Inter won't sell me Sneijder I'm not buying this game, thats called whining). There is no way a truly ambitious player would leave Inter for City right now. City ain't winning the CL this year or next probably whilst Inter are definitely in with a shout. Calm down and if you want to listen to people, its not just me there are plenty others, then do so. If not you really are wasting everyones time. But to outright reject talks is my problem for the 10th time, not whether he would leave or not.. but the biggest problem is Inter rejecting a bid of 100mil from ANYBODY, it doesn't matter what club I chose to be - its completely unrealistic and besides the point, you really think any player in the world would turn down 1million a week to play for anyone? If you do then you're delusional, as well as a fanboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccer_ Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Absolutely no need to get offensive. You are asking for explanations and people are giving them to you. Yet you choose to ignore them, if you don't agree or at least come back with proper constuctive counter arguments, go back to FM10 and avoid this topic as you are in the minority of one here. Because they're giving answers to questions I didn't pose thats why Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 But to outright reject talks is my problem for the 10th time, not whether he would leave or not..but the biggest problem is Inter rejecting a bid of 100mil from ANYBODY, it doesn't matter what club I chose to be - its completely unrealistic and besides the point, you really think any player in the world would turn down 1million a week to play for anyone? If you do then you're delusional, as well as a fanboy You try to help and get abused. Your kind aren't needed round here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaYa Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 a little annoying detail: the color of the attributes analyzer polygone is just soooo ugly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 But to outright reject talks is my problem for the 10th time, not whether he would leave or not..but the biggest problem is Inter rejecting a bid of 100mil from ANYBODY, it doesn't matter what club I chose to be - its completely unrealistic and besides the point, you really think any player in the world would turn down 1million a week to play for anyone? If you do then you're delusional, as well as a fanboy So, essentially, you just want to buy the best players with a shedload of cash. There'll be an editor for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkermush Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Anybody else experience about a 5-7 second delay when clicking on Results to check who scored, attendances.. etc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robioto Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 You try to help and get abused. Your kind aren't needed round here. Exaclty, disappear lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompey1978 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 What? There I'm talking specifically about whether Inter would accept 100mil for Sneijder or not idiot! This is like trying to argue with monkeys That's where you're going wrong then, you need to lower your target to something more your own level. You've been given a plethora of reasons why Sneijder, in real life, wouldn't want to talk to Man City, no matter how much money you threw at Inter. Here's a real world example for you - did Kaka speak to City when they tried to buy him? No. He politely declined. He just wasn't interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trents Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Anything here Jeez, it's like talking to a wall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandmanager Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 What? There I'm talking specifically about whether Inter would accept 100mil for Sneijder or not idiot! This is like trying to argue with monkeys stop insulting people just because you find 1 issue fanboys? maybe people are enjoying the game! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep64blue Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Absolutely HATE the new inbox/news merger. Absolutely love it myself - personally I think it was crazy to separate them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worcester City Researcher Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I wouldn't mind having a look at the demo - only problem is Steam is being a steaming pile of ***** and not actually letting me anywhere near downloading the demo. Stuck on the "Updating Steam" dialog, can't even get into the main screen of the bloody thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDani Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 The Demo is a quickstart which basically means everyone is playing the same save game. Similar/identical transfers are likely to occur Can you elaborate a little bit on the technical background of that? How is the likelihood of similar/identical transfers affected by having the same savegame as a source? Does there exist a general hash key for every save game which influences probabilities and is used for transfers? Or are possible transfers saved in a game long before they're executed? I have noticed a little bit of that thing in FM09 and 10, where i had to repeat a week or month because of a game crash and in that second time through I mostly saw the same news. That's one thing to accept, but to have a number of 10 or more transfers match exactly is difficult to imagine with any kind of probabilities. One might just get the idea that too much of the computer AI is scripted in order to produce such results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccer_ Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 You try to help and get abused. Your kind aren't needed round here. I don't plan on being "round here" anyway so why even say that, except for being a smug fool? As you can see my post count doesn't insinuate I waste my life all day on these forums like yours does, so take your pettiness elsewhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oi_oi_ginger_roy Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 If a club is supposedly w illing to pay 175mil for your services, surely you would listen to what they have to say rather than outright reject talks. I know it wasn't £175mil but remember when Kaka rejected Man City without even talking to them, even though AC accepted their massive bid............so its not un-realistic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccer_ Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 That's where you're going wrong then, you need to lower your target to something more your own level.You've been given a plethora of reasons why Sneijder, in real life, wouldn't want to talk to Man City, no matter how much money you threw at Inter. Here's a real world example for you - did Kaka speak to City when they tried to buy him? No. He politely declined. He just wasn't interested. Err he did speak to them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccer_ Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Kaka did have talks with man city but rejected them in the end, thus proving all you fanboys wrong.. way to go, idiots! I'm going out anyway, bye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandmanager Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Kaka did have talks with man city but rejected them in the end, thus proving all you fanboys wrong.. way to go, idiots!I'm going out anyway, bye buh bye... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trents Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Kaka did have talks with man city but rejected them in the end, thus proving all you fanboys wrong.. way to go, idiots!I'm going out anyway, bye Take your time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mansleg Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 1) I think why there is no comma in 'D/WB (L)' is because how loosely associated the two positions are with one another. Have you found any other similar examples with other positions? I can understand why this is confusing however, and will investigate this in any case.As for why there's no consistency between the format used in the Title Bar and the position column in a player list table, this is because we didn't think it would work as well there given the size constraints. But, again this is something that will be reviewed. 2) Are you on a display resolution of 768 pixels in height in maximised windowed state? Try pressing 'restore down' on the window if you are. Thanks for the feedback. And thank you for the counter-feedback! 1)Yeah D/WB seems to be the only one using slashes as opposed to commas, which I think, on reflection was also the case in FM10. But when used in this new system it does look a bit messy. 2) Aha! Yeah that has fixed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompey1978 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Err he did speak to them? You sure about that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurkingwithintent Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I hope this is a one off http://cl.ly/7b3bde0b04fc1bbc8175 I'd just beaten Blackburn, after all the post-match news I pressed continue and that happened. I don't think it saved my victory either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jojo manager Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Really not liking the new inbox screen Much preferred them seperated! Can anyone from SI tell me if there will be a FM10 skin like there was an FM09 skin last year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 But to outright reject talks is my problem for the 10th time, not whether he would leave or not..but the biggest problem is Inter rejecting a bid of 100mil from ANYBODY, it doesn't matter what club I chose to be - its completely unrealistic and besides the point, you really think any player in the world would turn down 1million a week to play for anyone? If you do then you're delusional, as well as a fanboy I would be prepared to discuss your problem despite it being the umpteeth time over the last year its been discussed but I have no intention of doing so until you provide constructive discussion and stop acting like a spoilt brat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I'm going out anyway Hopefully, you may be some time... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkermush Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Really not liking the new inbox screen Much preferred them seperated!Can anyone from SI tell me if there will be a FM10 skin like there was an FM09 skin last year? I thought that at first, but it grows on you. Once you get used to it, it's much better than FM10's. It keeps you more upto date with whats going on in the game world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allynod Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 NO he didnt talk to them Why should a player automatically talk to a club?? Not all players are out there grabbing money where ever it comes from, thankfully some (not many admitedly) still have moralls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Can you elaborate a little bit on the technical background of that? How is the likelihood of similar/identical transfers affected by having the same savegame as a source? Does there exist a general hash key for every save game which influences probabilities and is used for transfers? Or are possible transfers saved in a game long before they're executed?I have noticed a little bit of that thing in FM09 and 10, where i had to repeat a week or month because of a game crash and in that second time through I mostly saw the same news. That's one thing to accept, but to have a number of 10 or more transfers match exactly is difficult to imagine with any kind of probabilities. One might just get the idea that too much of the computer AI is scripted in order to produce such results. AI Managers have shortlists the same way you can in the game. These shortlists I believe are calculated when the game is first started and for each subsequent transfer window. As the quickstart is in effect a savegame, the shortlists AI managers have is the same for everyone with the demo. Hence why everyone with the demo will see some similar transfer movement. In the full retail version this won't be the case because everyone will have their own savegames and AI managers will have different shortlists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest_Rule Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I'm sure somebody has already elaborated on this, but i'm not sure I fully understand the 'match preperation' part of the game? Can anybody explain it for me please..? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I don't plan on being "round here" anyway so why even say that, except for being a smug fool? As you can see my post count doesn't insinuate I waste my life all day on these forums like yours does, so take your pettiness elsewhere Yawn. Anything original to try and insult me with? Kaka did have talks with man city but rejected them in the end, thus proving all you fanboys wrong.. way to go, idiots!I'm going out anyway, bye Well take care and don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackemforever Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Gotta say, Robert Pires has to be one of the best free transfers I've ever seen in an FM. Great technically, good mentally and still decent physically. It takes a fairly large wage to get him to sign but still a bargain in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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