skybluedave Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Erm what the joe the man said. Spot on for me. Except maybe Sturridge for Lennon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom14 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Anyone think we should send the Ox. Here's mine GK - Hart + 2GK DF - Richards, Walker, Cole, Baines, Ferdinand, Terry, Cahill, Lescott MF - Barry, Parker, Carrick, Gerrard, Lampard, WF - Oxlade-Chamberlaine, Lennon, Johnson, Young FW - Rooney, Welbeck, Sturridge I've gone a straight two players for each position in defence. 3 'holding/possession' type centre mids. Gerrard and/or Lampard as a roving box to box type player. Enough options on the wing to play either traditional or inverted (granted I only have Johnson as a traditional left winger (and I'm not counting Sturridge as that as he'd be gash there) but I couldn't bring myself to include Downing). I've only gone 3 forwards as there isn't any other type that I would want and I don't want us to resort to hoofball (ha!) We all know Hodgson loves a 4-4-2 though so it won't be anything like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Presuming its a 23 GK Hart Foster Ruddy Defenders Johnson Richards Lescott Terry Cahill Ferdinand Cole Baines Midfield Young Ox-Chamberlain Gerrard Parker Carrick Barry Lampard Walcott Milner Strikers Rooney Defoe Carroll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsheffreygreat Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Defoe over Welbeck? Carroll over Welbeck? Carroll and Defoe as our only two strikers for the first two games? Oh dear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I'd take: GK: Hart + 2 others Defenders: Richards, Walker, Lescott, Jagielka, Cahill, Jones, Baines, Cole Midfielders: Carrick, Parker, Barry, Milner, Young, Lennon, Walcott/Ox, Sturridge, Johnson Forwards: Rooney, Welbeck, Defoe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 GK - Hart, Carson, Green (most likely) Defenders - Walker, Richards, Terry, Lescott, Cahill, Rio, Cole, Baines Midfield - Young, A.Johnson (someone other than Downing ... it's going to be Downing, isn't it?), Gerrard, Parker, Barry, Lampard, Walcott, Milner, Strikers - Rooney, Welbeck, Defoe, Carroll Right back is tough. Probably prefer Richards/Walker with Richards being able to cover centre back too and I have no place for Phil Jones who's versatility may get him in. I think Lampard deserves to go every bit as much as Gerrard with the form he's in atm It's hardly the most exciting squad in the world, the press would hammer me I could go Sturridge over Defoe though, not in love with Defoe being essential here. Thing is, no one knows Woy's preferences really. He's picking an extended squad first, isn't he? Is that 30 and then knocking it down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Apart from GKs I'd take 20 people with as much pace as possible and sod the technical ability. I honestly would take people like Walcott, Ox, Lennon even Agbonlahor because they'll just frighten the bejesus out of people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I also like for all the bashing Barry has had over recent years that everyone's including him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roseboy64 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 TBF to him he's had a good season. Carrick, Barry and Parker should be certainties really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 We really have the oldest/slowest central midfield options without Wilshere don't we. No energy at all between Gerrard, Barry, Carrick, Lampard and Parker is no spring chicken. Should call up Jordan Henderson, he's got plenty of energy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Yeah he is pretty much first choice for the Champions of England. I've probably slated him in the past (though not as much as others, JMR? iirc ), especially around the time after the World Cup but I quite like him for England Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 GK: James LB: Cole CB: Terry CB: Ferdinand RB: Johnson LM: Gerrard CM: Barry CM: Lampard RM: Beckham FW: Rooney FW: Owen I honestly think that team would have just as much chance as any other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Have we gone back to Euro2004? Rooney is to inexperienced, rather see Darrius Vassel in there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 This Beckham for the Olympics thing is ridiculous. There is no way on earth he should be there and Pearce even went to go watch him in the States ... erm, someone wants a free holiday? Right about our midfield, not a lot of pace with Lampard/Gerrard and Parker and whoever else. Real shame about Wilshere that's an entire season of playing, learning even more, developing that's gone now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Defoe over Welbeck? Carroll over Welbeck? Carroll and Defoe as our only two strikers for the first two games? Oh dear. Yes. Defoe is a much better finisher than Welbeck, and Carroll is a better option for a lone striker than Welbeck. Carroll is also a different option, which is what you need. Walcott is a better more experienced player, although similar, to Welbeck, so he gets the nod as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 1 - Hart, 22 - Ruddy, 13 - Stockdale 2 - Walker 3 - Cole, 23 - Baines 6 - Terry, 5 - Lescott, 14 - Jones, 12 - Cahill 15 - Barry, 4 - Parker, 20 - Lampard, 8 - Gerrard, 16 - Carrick 7 - Young, 19 - Ox-Chamberlain, 17 - Lennon, 11 - A. Johnson 10 - Rooney, 9 - Welbeck, 21 - Carroll, 18 - Defoe That's right - only one right back. Couldn't chose between Johnson and Richards so left them both out. Logical? No. Who cares, Jones can cover there and that is why he gets the nod ahead of Jagielka or Rio. I've also gone to the trouble of numbering them for you all. This is based on absolutely no thought so if anybody comes in saying "omg why have you given the Ox 19, his favourite number is 21" then you can gtf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 OMG think you'll find Gerrard always has 4!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Why the hell are people including Terry in this list? He's been pretty awful the whole season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 OMG think you'll find Gerrard always has 4!! Will not react Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Why the hell are people including Terry in this list? He's been pretty awful the whole season. I'd already filled my quota of one Everton player so Jags had to miss out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I'd already filled my quota of one Everton player so Jags had to miss out. Smalling? You have one Everton player in there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I'd already filled my quota of one Everton player so Jags had to miss out. Smalling?You have one Everton player in there I think he might be aware of that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I think he might be aware of that? My point was there is only one Everton player (hence the smiley). He'd rather not take two Everton players but will happily take Terry instead? Oh, and stop being pedantic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe__the__man Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Why the hell are people including Terry in this list? He's been pretty awful the whole season. How many Chelsea games have you watched, out of interest? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 How many Chelsea games have you watched, out of interest? Quite a lot. Chelsea are on tv a lot here, so basically I'd say 90% of the games that haven't clashed with an Everton game or a United game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett.spurs Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Hart Foster Ruddy Richards Jones Smalling Rio Cahill Lescott Cole Carrick Parker Barry Lampard Scholes Gerrard Lennon Walcott Young Ox Rooney Welbeck Defoe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 My point was there is only one Everton player (hence the smiley). He'd rather not take two Everton players but will happily take Terry instead?Oh, and stop being pedantic I was foolin' around with the one Everton player business. I like Jagielka but was kinda going with what I think Hodgson will take. On that note I'd say Zamora is also pretty likely due to his exploits with Fulham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 and Carroll is a better option for a lone striker than Welbeck. Carroll is also a different option, which is what you need. All kinds of wrong... I'd go with; Hart, Someone, Someone else Richards, Walker Baines, Cole Terry, Ferdinand, Cahill, Jagielka Carrick, Parker, Lampard, Barry, Gerrard Young, Lennon, Milner, Walcott Rooney, Welbeck, Sturridge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I was foolin' around with the one Everton player business.I like Jagielka but was kinda going with what I think Hodgson will take. On that note I'd say Zamora is also pretty likely due to his exploits with Fulham. Fair enough. I was like 'no Jags or Smalling yet there's Terry?! ლ(ಠ益ಠ)ლ' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I hope Ben Foster isn't going, mainly cause he's a big baby and cannot handle any kind of pressure or expectation whatsoever. Said he wanted time off from England so leave him be, he's a flake, ok at West Brom now where no one will pay too much attention to what he's doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe__the__man Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Quite a lot. Chelsea are on tv a lot here, so basically I'd say 90% of the games that haven't clashed with an Everton game or a United game. Fair enough, but I think it says a lot that he's still been in most people's squads despite most people despising him. He's had a pretty decent season imo, nothing great by his previous standards but he should be an automatic pick for England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Fair enough, but I think it says a lot that he's still been in most people's squads despite most people despising him. He's had a pretty decent season imo, nothing great by his previous standards but he should be an automatic pick for England. My reason for not picking him has nothing to do with me despising him, though. He's been pretty poor this season, and there are better center-backs around. Lescott and Jagielka have both had better seasons, and Smalling has been pretty solid when he's played. I wasn't quite convinced by Cahill when he first moved to Chelsea but he's been pretty good as well. I'd even take Ferdinand over Terry because, despite his injury problems, Ferdinand played really well during the time when United overtook City. Even if Terry goes, he should be a back-up to Jagielka and Lescott. Also, people including Terry doesn't say much. They're also including Gerrard who's been awful (except that hattrick in the derby ). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Lescott and Jags should be our starting pair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 You can argue over who should start but no way is Smalling get in an England squad ahead of Terry. There were stories during the week about Hodge leaving Terry or Rio out cause of this thing but pretty sure it was based on nothing and he's not spoken to them about the racism thing yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 The Telegraph has Rickie Lambert and Kelvin Davis as options for the squad... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/9254799/Who-should-England-manager-Roy-Hodgson-select-for-Euro-2012-squad.html They aren't doing particularly well in the voting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Hart Foster RuddyRichards Jones Smalling Rio Cahill Lescott Cole Carrick Parker Barry Lampard Scholes Gerrard Lennon Walcott Young Ox Rooney Welbeck Defoe this, but possibly walker instead of jones and sturridge instead of defoe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Zamora not doing that well in that poll - might stick some money on him going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Joe Hart with only 33.87% of the votes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Evidence of why you shouldn't trust the public. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 All kinds of wrong...I'd go with; Hart, Someone, Someone else Richards, Walker Baines, Cole Terry, Ferdinand, Cahill, Jagielka Carrick, Parker, Lampard, Barry, Gerrard Young, Lennon, Milner, Walcott Rooney, Welbeck, Sturridge Walcott, Welbeck, Sturridge and to an extent Lennon are all pretty much the same player. There's no tactical variety at all. Once plan A is ****ed, you're done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 have you ever watched welbeck? serious question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Yes. They are physical based players, with minimal technique and tactical nouse; employed to get behind the defence and cause troubles that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett.spurs Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Walcott, Welbeck, Sturridge and to an extent Lennon are all pretty much the same player. You do come out with some pretty strange ****. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Yes. They are physical based players, with minimal technique and tactical nouse; employed to get behind the defence and cause troubles that way. Are you describing Carroll? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDiCanio Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Joe Hart with only 33.87% of the votes Evidence of why you shouldn't trust the public. Seeing as you're supposed to pick 3, him getting over a third of the total votes is pretty good going. At most he should be on 33.33%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Tell me the differences between them. None of them are target men, none of them are pure finishers, none of them are defensive forwards (Dirk, Walters, Olic). They're pace merchants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foolsgold Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Walcott, Welbeck, Sturridge and to an extent Lennon are all pretty much the same player. There's no tactical variety at all. Once plan A is ****ed, you're done. I can almost see what you mean with Walcott, Sturridge and Lennon, but Welbeck? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hom3r Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Walcott, Welbeck, Sturridge and to an extent Lennon are all pretty much the same player. Suarez FC strikes again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roseboy64 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Welbeck and Sturridge are different types of players to Walcott and Lennon. For a start, the technical ability is clear with the former two whereas you wonder about it with the latter. Not to mention the former two are more versatile owing to this better technical ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Call up Joey Barton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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