Far too many long-range goals.

Every goal I seem to concede is from at least 25 yards. It's really starting to annoy me now as I will dominate a team for the whole game and then they just turn round and score from nothing. There are no headers from corners/freekicks, no direct freekicks, no goals from in the box. Nothing.

Bug maybe?

Noticing this too.

Crouchy just scored a screamer against me, way outside the penalty box. Then Osman lashed one in from even further away.

You'll need to monitor and capture this over a long period of time. You can the compare to real life stats and see how this matches up

I'm getting this to!!!

With Steven Gerrard playing in the hole as an 'advanced playmaker' in the 2 seasons i've played as Liverpool(i've won the league both times) he's scored over 35 league goals each season. He takes penalties and free kicks but EVERY goal from free play has been from outside the box. The ball gets played to Torres as the target man, he passes it back to Gerrard who hits them in from 25 yards time after time after time. Infact after seasons no player's other than Gerrard and Torres have scored more than 9 goals.

It's honestly got to the point where i don't know if i'll keep playing. This, how easy the game is and player subscriptions being forgotten just annoys me far too much.

Im playing as Milan and after 15 games not me or the opposition have scored long rage goals.And 2 of my AMC have long shots 20!!

Every game i seem to lose, i lose to a long range scorcher unfortunately

the majority of my goals come from fernando torres. gerrard plays the through ball after torres destroys the off-side trap he is alone and 1 on 1 with the keeper. you would put your house on him scoring and he does it so well. gerrard comes in with a few long shots and free kicks among others but nobody apart from those 2 score above 10 per season.

Currently, i tend to concede either a scorcher, a 20-pass move that ends in a tap-in, or an own goal. All are as annoying as the others.

its really annoying, weaker teams usually have advantage on long range shots i dont know why, at least its not as bad as it was in 09

I haven't really noticed this, maybe you should be looking to use Opposition Instructions to close down the opposition players that have good long shots?

I haven't really noticed this, maybe you should be looking to use Opposition Instructions to close down the opposition players that have good long shots?

i always do that, but even players with 9 or less in long shots score frequently against good goalkeepers

Yep, Long shots are far too common and overpowered currently. 4 of the goals in a 5 goal match were all long shots

Epihram(sp?) scored 3 against me in one game, he has about '10' for long shots. It's unreal.

Yep 100% agree. To be honest it is ruining the game for me. Almost every game there is an absolute highlight reel goal from 20+ yards out

Its something i've noticed, the vast majority of my goals are scored from outside the box and tend to be screamers. It would seem to me that it happens far to often.

Defiantly not its just players even when set to sometimes love to take shots from way outside the box but most of mine are coming from headers so many from defenders what i haven't seen a lot of is players beating keepers which was so sweet on the last one

I'm getting this to!!!

With Steven Gerrard playing in the hole as an 'advanced playmaker' in the 2 seasons i've played as Liverpool(i've won the league both times) he's scored over 35 league goals each season. He takes penalties and free kicks but EVERY goal from free play has been from outside the box. The ball gets played to Torres as the target man, he passes it back to Gerrard who hits them in from 25 yards time after time after time. Infact after seasons no player's other than Gerrard and Torres have scored more than 9 goals.

It's honestly got to the point where i don't know if i'll keep playing. This, how easy the game is and player subscriptions being forgotten just annoys me far too much.

I need your tactic

Are you running the patch 10.1? This was an issue that was supposed to be addressed in the patch.

Every goal I seem to concede is from at least 25 yards. It's really starting to annoy me now as I will dominate a team for the whole game and then they just turn round and score from nothing. There are no headers from corners/freekicks, no direct freekicks, no goals from in the box. Nothing.

Bug maybe?

I think u should work on ur Opposition Instruction...Close down players who u think are capable of longs shots...I hardly see the opposition converting long shots coz i generally close down both the central midfielders even if they are crap....also try setting a Ball Winning Midfielder....he'l sit deep and clean up and close down all around the pitch...jus play around mate...theres always a solution...

Dude we do work on opposition instruction. Most of the time my assman will close down all potential long shots threats by default as a matter of fact. And the question begs.....why do I need to be ultra concerned about stopping 40 yard screamers all the time? They are out of control in my games.....both for me and against....at least 1 highlight reel long shot per game.

I'm finding it hard to feed through balls to my strikers once we're high up the field no matter what settings i use. Having said that all my goals either come from counter attacks or screamers outside the box. I always lose to long shots too as the opponent gets so many long shots that at least one of them are bound to go in.

Dude we do work on opposition instruction. Most of the time my assman will close down all potential long shots threats by default as a matter of fact. And the question begs.....why do I need to be ultra concerned about stopping 40 yard screamers all the time? They are out of control in my games.....both for me and against....at least 1 highlight reel long shot per game.

I don kno then bro....but i dont think its a bug coz i don find many long shots being scored in my save...

hey. I am using Man Utd and Berbatov seem scoring for fun from 25yards out scoring from that position for quite a lot. Though I don't think He could do this in realistic game.

How come I mentioned this in the demo and was told it was my tactics?

i'm running a new game with the patch and had not noticed this after 1.5 seasons...

I haven't seen that many long-range goals after the 1st patch and neither concede many goals from long shots. It's not a real issue. Close down and tackle hard the opposition central midfielders to stop conceding from distance.

I'm playing as Liverpool and have Stevie G in the hole but all of my goals are Gerrard playinga killer ball and Torres beating the offside trap. He's scored 47 goals in the first season. I have seen probably 5-10 long range goals in the first season and the half. Not that many really!

I had to turn 7 of my players to long shots - rarely because they were missing so much.

I would be taking 30 shots a game and 25 would be missed long shots.

ok, nobody has done this so i'm gonna say it. It's your tactics!!

Every goal I seem to concede is from at least 25 yards. It's really starting to annoy me now as I will dominate a team for the whole game and then they just turn round and score from nothing. There are no headers from corners/freekicks, no direct freekicks, no goals from in the box. Nothing.

Bug maybe?

I agree that there are TOO many long range goals, but are you SURE there are no other kinds of goals? It's certainly NOT a bug as I am seeing goals from inside the 6 yard area, an own goal, side foot tap ins, etc.

I did notice long range goals, but the having watched top flight football over the last couple of seasons, it appears that the majority of games are often graced with such skill.

Come to think of it, most iv'e seen this season have had 'screamers'?

I did notice long range goals, but the having watched top flight football over the last couple of seasons, it appears that the majority of games are often graced with such skill.

Come to think of it, most iv'e seen this season have had 'screamers'?

Top flight football maybe, but not when you are a supporter of Grimsby Town, bottom of League Two.

My Filippo Inzaghi was scored with curling ball from a distance of 30 yard.

I've seen a few long range goals - although this one's the longest i've seen (thankfully was one for me)

Don't want to sound highbrow or anything but:

A lot of claims are put forward regarding the match engine. Tackling, Penalties, Long shots etc etc. Too few. Too many. Whatever.

It's very well possible that these claims are based on objective, emprical data. But I haven't seen anybody coming up with experiments in which you actually provide statistical proof of the perceived problem.

For example; long shots.

Ok, it's possible that there are too many goals from long shots in the ME.

But then you'll have to state how many you have scored with different teams for several seasons. It's not very usefull posting 'Ok, I have 11 goals in december and 7 are from long shots'. Some teams might have these statistics in real life as well.

How many goals are scored in real life from long shots?

How many long shots are scored during a whole season in FM10?

What's the percentage of long shots scored?

During a season; what percentage of your total goals are long shots?

I haven't seen any statistics in this thread.

The only thing I read here, are assumptions bases on very little data.

Again, the OP might be right. And he might be wrong.

The only thing I'm trying to say = try to provide some decent statistics so SI can examine if the claim put forward is justified or not.

edit: I just re-read and my post does sounds highbrow

Top flight football maybe, but not when you are a supporter of Grimsby Town, bottom of League Two.

haha - fair point!

In my first season in Serie C2/A I had a striker with 9 for long shots. He scored 26 league goals and at least half of these were long-range screamers.

It was a bit odd. We were noticeably low on creativity but ended up being top scorers in the division because of these screamers (one of the midfielders was fairly good at them, too)

1. Get decent GK with high Reflexes skill.

2. Employ formation with Defensive Midfielder.

3. Set "Close Down" in Opposition Instructions for every opposition player with good Long Shots skill.

I use this guidelines myself and very rarely concede screamers.

There is another simple fact people are failing to notice. In real life, even the best at taking long shots don't score them very often - Steven Gerrard is a case in point. Yes, he can score belters, but if you actually watch him, he doesn't do it all that often. So my point is, even if you are not closing down players who are pulling off long shots, you shouldn't have to worry about them scoring screamers so often anyway, because it is not very common irl. If these in-game players are choosing to shoot from 30 yards out then fine - but they should not be hitting the target, let alone scoring, as often as they are - even with a high 'long shots' stat.

It's your tactics. I don't really conceed any long range efforts as i harry the opposition down to quick to allow long range shots so they have to get the ball into the box to score

edit: I just re-read and my post does sounds highbrow

Nah, it wasn't high-brow, it was just common sense. It's a theme across a lot of threads in GD that very few people seem to understand the concept of providing some evidence, and comparing to real life.

Whether it's people saying there are too many injuries, too many red cards, too many penalties, long range goals or something else.

Edit - as if by magic, another one appears: http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=162425

I agree that there are TOO many long range goals, but are you SURE there are no other kinds of goals? It's certainly NOT a bug as I am seeing goals from inside the 6 yard area, an own goal, side foot tap ins, etc.

There are some but the long range goals outweigh them by about 70-30.

I don't think there's any much long-range-goals. Rather, I think it's about 85-15 in favour of close-range-goals on my game. It could well be that I play with 1 DMC and 2 MC with Support, while my wingers are set to Attack... But who knows. Personally I think it's all about tactics, since I don't see much longrange goals at all.

I have scored most of my goals outside the penalty box. Thats quite alot. My opposition on the other hand rarely do it or succeed doing it.

I don't think there's any much long-range-goals. Rather, I think it's about 85-15 in favour of close-range-goals on my game. It could well be that I play with 1 DMC and 2 MC with Support, while my wingers are set to Attack... But who knows. Personally I think it's all about tactics, since I don't see much longrange goals at all.

That's exactly what I play with. 1 DMC and 2 MC with support but I see them constantly.

That's exactly what I play with. 1 DMC and 2 MC with support but I see them constantly.

Heh, sounds odd then, but my MC's never shot from long-range. Rather they always get into the box as the ball always goes out on the wings and I get crosses into the box... So I almost only score close-range.

Gotta agree with the OP. Although it is my strikers scoring the long range goals, there are a lot of efforts from just outside the box going in.

I've had a few long range goals myself but nothing compared to what players score against me.