mavericktangoII Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 I'd agree that we need the Welsh first div otherwise it's hard to get a career game going in Wales Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nene_Park_Faithfull Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 I'd agree that we need the Welsh first div otherwise it's hard to get a career game going in Wales You say that asif its a bad thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzing_hornet Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Please leave the Conference North and South alone? They aren't going are they ? Surely not !?!? I'd be VERY angry if they did get taken out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Please, SI, the USL, PDL, and CSL in FM09. The Southern and Ryman Leagues are unnecessary. There are enough English tiers in the game. There's only the MLS. I can't find any jobs as an umemployed Canadian manager. And MLS teams have feeder club teams in the USL, PDL, and CSL. I want 'true' LLM in the US and Canada. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzing_hornet Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 I would love to see the Southern and Ryman Leagues added. Is that because the hatters are heading there ? Please, SI, the USL, PDL, and CSL in FM09. The Southern and Ryman Leagues are unnecessary. There are enough English tiers in the game. There's only the MLS. I can't find any jobs as an umemployed Canadian manager. And MLS teams have feeder club teams in the USL, PDL, and CSL. I want 'true' LLM in the US and Canada. What if people want "true LLM" in England ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 What if people want "true LLM" in England ? There's only one tier in the game in the US compared to 6 English tiers, and realistically it is easier to research a second tier US league than a 7th or 8th tier English league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzing_hornet Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Yes and that one tier is only really just getting off the ground so it's probably best not to get ahead of yourself just yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_lufc Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Few more afican leagues would be nice like Egypt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabioke Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Italian Serie D would be fantastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Yes and that one tier is only really just getting off the ground so it's probably best not to get ahead of yourself just yet. I just think that since the USL/PDL/CSL teams have the players who have at least similar quality as League 1 to Conference North/South, it should be in FM09. And SI has all the data on those leagues already so it's just making those leagues playable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanus Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 the cypriot league should be in there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I honestly don't care if more leagues are added or not. Perhaps a few South American leagues. lol at the thought that it would be easier to research the MLS second tier than the BSPN/S. There are far more supporters of the top English non-league teams than MLS 2 teams. *probably Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGa70 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I just think that since the USL/PDL/CSL teams have the players who have at least similar quality as League 1 to Conference North/South Actually, USL would be alot easier to manage - there is no real draft system (not anymore), fairly lax restriction on foreigners, no allocations. No buying/seliing - only trading. The player quality became alot better - most teams a quite a bit stronger than they were even 5 years ago since USL can pay to MLS rejects more sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCSUltra Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 USL first division is about level with some lower Championship teams and the top League 1 teams. USL-2 is on par with League two, maybe lower league 1. Plus, there are already stats for all the players, the leagues just need to be made playable. As GoGa said, the league is way less complex than MLS is. @buzzing_hornet - the USL leagues have been established and have had a foot-hold far longer than MLS has. The teams are doing well. USL-1 teams are starting to build 10k-15k seater stadiums. Things are looking up for LL football in the US. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicki Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Please, SI, the USL, PDL, and CSL in FM09. The Southern and Ryman Leagues are unnecessary. There are enough English tiers in the game. There's only the MLS. I can't find any jobs as an umemployed Canadian manager. And MLS teams have feeder club teams in the USL, PDL, and CSL. I want 'true' LLM in the US and Canada. I completely agree with you, the USL leagues is a must. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingkyle Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 I think there's enough South American teams. SI should look to add a couple more in Central America. Looking at league strength, you'd probably say the Costa Rican league needs to be there, but i'd LOVE to the El Salvador league added. If i had to only chose one, that would be it. Hopefully one day it happens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingkyle Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 There's only one i'd love to see added, and thats the El Salvador league. I spend 99% of my FM time managing the Salvadoran national team. But managing a team in the national league would be a dream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
karanfett Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 think the priority should be USL, followed by a few more south american leagues. really absolutely no need for more english leagues, there are already 6 tiers in there, atleast work on getting the other country's caught up on that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themistofelis Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 They can add all the leagues they want if they make the game much faster so we can have them active. There are many threads asking for new leagues but honestly how many of you have ever managed a team from India ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwityke Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 They can add all the leagues they want if they make the game much faster so we can have them active.There are many threads asking for new leagues but honestly how many of you have ever managed a team from India ? I once managed Bengally Sports Bank or what ever they were called and then got another job at an equally randomly named team. I also agree with you tho why add more leagues when I only realised the Belarus league was playable the other day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Those leagues would attract a bigger market.I don't think they are of a better playing standard though. Of course they are, good players from South American leagues end up going there. Thats why the leagues are of a better quality. Plus all good Middle Easter players stay there, these players are good enough to play in the top European leagues but they have no reason to since they are stars in the Middle East and get a good pay already and if they went to a top European league they would be just be another player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingkyle Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Of course they are, good players from South American leagues end up going there. Thats why the leagues are of a better quality. Plus all good Middle Easter players stay there, these players are good enough to play in the top European leagues but they have no reason to since they are stars in the Middle East and get a good pay already and if they went to a top European league they would be just be another player. IMO, the South American leagues are better in terms of talent, and have higher quality teams. The only reason that you see good players from other parts of the world go and play in the Middle East is for the $$$$$. It's as simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marquez Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 I only want SI to add the feature to the editor that will let us create our leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCPD Manager Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 What about Female Football? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty_9 Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 female football would be ridicolous in my opinion...not enough demand at all! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
karanfett Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 They can add all the leagues they want if they make the game much faster so we can have them active.There are many threads asking for new leagues but honestly how many of you have ever managed a team from India ? India is a market of 1 billion, whereas Ryman clubs are a market of 10000-15000 at best. What makes more business sense for SI? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidmonkey Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 because its not such a low market you make out as only people who support the club will manage them me and a lot of others would be happier manageing in lower levels of the english league than india or a usa league that has no promotion or relegation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiny223 Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 because its not such a low market you make out as only people who support the club will manage them me and a lot of others would be happier manageing in lower levels of the english league than india or a usa league that has no promotion or relegation I want to manage in the U.S, but with the USL Divisions instead of MLS. I think that would be loads of fun, about the same quality as the MLS, just less money around and no odd draft system. Probably wouldn't cost much to get licenses either. The league gets around 3k people (For some of the lesser teams, new teams and ***** teams like Seattle) to 10-13k like Portland and Montreal. Which I do believe is more than a lot of the lesser European teams..., like the Welsh Premier and some of the Slavic countries, etc... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisIran Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Iranian league. We made it to the Club world Cup We got one of the biggest Arenas Azadi Stadium that is always filled with Red Perspolis(Persepolis) fans to the max. The derby betweeen Esteghlal and Perspolis is one of the worlds biggest derbys. We got the money we got the fans. so why not the iranian league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidmonkey Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Thing is its down to personal opinion as out of thousands or people who go to watch USL sides howmany will actually buy WSM? personally i couldnt care less what league are put in i dont play that many anyway as i lose intrest in games quite easily as in past month ive had games as Bayern, Shakhtar, Dinamo Moscow and currently im rangers, its just wrong as for the attendence figures bounced arround yea they sound good but the fact is the USA is a county way bigger than all European countries (individually im not sure per square mile if its bigger than europe id hazard a guess at yes) but Soccer is still seen by alot of americans (my dad included) to be ranked down in sports behind the big ones of NBA, NHL, NFL MLB. as far as imconcerned add them all in but if its done by choice you would rather have usa leagues in id rather have english leagues in, the welsh would rather welsh leagues etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duck my sick Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 USL English Unibond Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Venezuelan league, please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpioGol Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 I'd like to see the following leagues added: Japan Egypt Ghana Tunesia Qatar Saudi-Arabia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jod123 Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Japan, More African Leagues, More Leagues from the Middle East and New Zealand as one league from Oceania is needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NepentheZ Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 I'd just like to see them all added. It would certainly add variety If anything though, I'd like to see more leagues in the English division. I know its hard due to not having researchers for these teams, but i'd love to see them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5iver Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 We certainly need 1 or 2 Middle Eastern leagues in there. It would be an "interesting" experience for many players who would like to take over a team that has lots of money to spend on players (and usually 2-3 really good ones, mixed with the local boys <=== get this implimented somehow) and tring to sign good but mostly unambitious players who chase $$$. First divisions for these leagues would suffice for the moment. Also based on SI's observation of quality of research, expand divisions available for countries where you saw ratings/reserach to have been of very high quality. Reward the researchers, and expand LLM games further. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonin Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 USL first division is about level with some lower Championship teams and the top League 1 teams. USL-2 is on par with League two, maybe lower league 1. Plus, there are already stats for all the players, the leagues just need to be made playable. As GoGa said, the league is way less complex than MLS is. Things are looking up for LL football in the US. USL 2nd division, so I could play our local side, Cleveland City Stars. I realize that this is unlikely, but CCSUltra is very correct--the quality of USL2 is surprisingly good. At least as good as UK Conference level. Other than that, I would love to see Ghana's top league in FM. A friend visited that country recently and brought back a load of newspapers, which really whetted my appetite. I'm very eager to test my managerial skills in Ghana! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviera Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 J-League would be the only one I would even consider playing in. agree.....egypt,algerian,nigerian,cameroon's league...so europe club have more to pick from and New Zealand league....Thai....China.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macedonian King Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Macedonian league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edilson Roach II Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 USA USL would be great, NCAA wouldnt be worth it, the MLS caps are enough without trying to work out how youre going to reload your team every 2 years and i'd be ****ed if i lost a player due to him failing to meet required GPA in science oh and i want the j-league back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiny223 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 It seems like the ones most wanted are: Lower level English leagues USL1&2, PDL J-League Lower Welsh Leagues Seeing as I think it is Konami owns the rights to J-League, can't see that happening. USL would be fairly simple, and would get plenty of researchers (I know loads that would help out for Timbers). I don't really know about the lower level English leagues, but I do know that at least some of the lower WPL clubs would be hardput to find researchers for their squad, although I'm sure there would be a league researcher who could fill that in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy20 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 The Leicestershire Church League! LOL all joking aside... I think it would be awesome in a few years time if FM had the leagues just below Conference North and South. That would be a real rags to riches challenge! Someone with a ground capacity of about 300 and a wage budget of £800, bring it on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erimus Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Anyone remember a few years ago, you could manage an American A-League side as well as the MLS teams? Im not sure what everyone else thinks of the idea but i believe it would be good if the USL 1st and 2nd Division were added in as playable leagues in FM09. At the moment the following teams are playing in the USL 1st Division: Atlanta Silverbacks Carolina Railhawks Charleston Battery Miami FC Minnesota Thunder Montreal Impact Portland Timbers Puerto Rico Islanders Rochester Rhinos Seattle Sounders Vancouver Whitecaps and within the next few years, the following two teams will also be competing in the USL 1st Division: Austin Aztex (2009) Tampa Bay Rowdies (2010) Ive just spent the last few hours updating all the USL in fm08 just so its up to date in my games even though its impossible to play. I would quite like to have the chance to manage the Rochester Rhinos and even Crystal Palace Baltimore in the USL 2nd Division. The following teams are in the USL 2nd Division: Bermuda Hogges (Owned by Shaun Goater) Charlotte Eagles Cleveland City Stars Crystal Palace Baltimore (Owned by Crystal Palace) Harrisburg City Islanders Pittsburgh Riverhounds Real Maryland Monarchs Richmond Kickers Western Mass Pioneers Wilmington Hammerheads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Stingrays Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I've been to see the Charlotte Eagles play. Very interesting to hear music being played during the game to get the crowd chanting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiny223 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I've got a season ticket to the Portland Timbers. Would love to see them in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCSUltra Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I'm a season ticket holder for Cleveland. It would be very fun to manage them in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I would like this to be included in the game as I love managing in the MLS in FM08. It's good to see that you have shown that you are very interested in this by researching all the names of the teams and that you have spent the last few hours updating the FM08 database. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCSUltra Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 If anyone is interested and you're on facebook, search for this group: Football Manager/WSM Data Research Team (MLS/USL/CSL) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I will log on a search now . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydfc4ever Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 since there is no promotion to the MLS I can't see this happening (bit like the state leagues here in Australia). i've seen a couple of guys build multi-tier American leagues with those clubs, that might be your best bet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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