Mcfc1894 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 6 hours ago, Ronaldo Beckham said: I pre-ordered FM21 a few weeks a go from Steam. Do I get the Beta if I buy direct from Steam and also how will I know it is ready to download when they release it? It just updates it self so it adds the install button Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Beckham Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 15 minutes ago, Mcfc1894 said: It just updates it self so it adds the install button Oh ok cool. Thank you. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStockportHatter86 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 I've bought it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marghat Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 will not buy it no, to many fouls with this game, 50 shots on target 1 goal opposition have 5 and scores 2, someone trains badley for week after week you talk to them they say they will improve, after a month i warn them by saying if you dont improve youre training i will put you on transfer list, they say yeah i will improve just dont list me, they still train bad i put them on the transfer list and the knock on my office and i have to tell them its becouse of something entirely different becouse there is no option about training or attutude just tactic changes and whatever. 1v1 is ruined wingers shoot at will... my blood is boiling. its a sloppy game made by sloppy developers 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruskin Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Pre-ordered FM2021 to support the workers at the company. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anagain Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 10 hours ago, marghat said: will not buy it no, to many fouls with this game, 50 shots on target 1 goal opposition have 5 and scores 2, someone trains badley for week after week you talk to them they say they will improve, after a month i warn them by saying if you dont improve youre training i will put you on transfer list, they say yeah i will improve just dont list me, they still train bad i put them on the transfer list and the knock on my office and i have to tell them its becouse of something entirely different becouse there is no option about training or attutude just tactic changes and whatever. 1v1 is ruined wingers shoot at will... my blood is boiling. its a sloppy game made by sloppy developers Well, as this is your first post you obviously have bugged nothing. I agree with you about the conversations. It is something I have seen myself. My own experience is that I bug things I think need fixing and I have found the SI staff I have communicated with to be friendly and helpful. Follow bug reporting guidelines and do what is asked of you when they reply and they can attempt to fix things. As for you other arguments, well is it worth me asking if you have tried to fix things tactically, or do you just send the same formation out in every match and expect it to work? Have you tried to alter your tactics to improve your finishing in front of goal? Believe me, many haven't, but that doesn't stop them complaining. It certainly doesn't excuse abuse of developers, who all work long, hard hours and are passionate about this game. Not sloppy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pav_Makarov Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Have to say it, I've been playing 20 yesterday and after 15th or so blocked cross, that went to the corner (wonder if people at SI realise, that sometimes ball gets deflected in the other direction), and my W(s) AGAIN shooting the ball into the post from 0 angle with two uncovered players standing in the box, I thought that I'm ready to break my own rule and buy 21 on the release day, not even wait for a patch. Just to forget FM 20 like a bad dream So yeah, I'm buying it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
f.zaarour Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Pav_Makarov said: Have to say it, I've been playing 20 yesterday and after 15th or so blocked cross, that went to the corner (wonder if people at SI realise, that sometimes ball gets deflected in the other direction), and my W(s) AGAIN shooting the ball into the post from 0 angle with two uncovered players standing in the box, I thought that I'm ready to break my own rule and buy 21 on the release day, not even wait for a patch. Just to forget FM 20 like a bad dream So yeah, I'm buying it Lool thats rly what came up to my mind also. Just want to get 21 asap bcs 20 was rly bad, no enjoyment at all. But ye im gonna w8 it out anyway, would be ashame if 21 would be sad also. Hope not though. If the reviews are positive, and i decide to buy FM21 after beta release, can i use the BETA also, anyone...? Edited November 10, 2020 by f.zaarour Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyburn Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Skipping this one. Improvements look to be in all the places that did not need improving. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marghat Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 9 hours ago, anagain said: Well, as this is your first post you obviously have bugged nothing. I agree with you about the conversations. It is something I have seen myself. My own experience is that I bug things I think need fixing and I have found the SI staff I have communicated with to be friendly and helpful. Follow bug reporting guidelines and do what is asked of you when they reply and they can attempt to fix things. As for you other arguments, well is it worth me asking if you have tried to fix things tactically, or do you just send the same formation out in every match and expect it to work? Have you tried to alter your tactics to improve your finishing in front of goal? Believe me, many haven't, but that doesn't stop them complaining. It certainly doesn't excuse abuse of developers, who all work long, hard hours and are passionate about this game. Not sloppy. I have two different tacticts agains strong teams and weak normal teams, anyway when i always get 30 shot om goal and the strikers with 17 finishing and 18 composture manahes to miss an open goal it aint right. I have a world class keeper and two world class stoppers and with their 5 shots usually they at least one goal from them, either from a ronaldo volly shoot or an easy shoot thats just pass by my super keeper.. it dosnt feel like managing a team more like exploiting game mechanics. Alot of work needs to be done and instead of adding bs social media that just repeats itself they should be working with the match engine, and also the social aspect where you cant really dicipline players becouse of the conversation options you can give them is just awful. Also down in vanorama players play lile either garbage when you lose or ronaldo when you win Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraz86 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Will be buying this year's. Didn't bother buying fm20 mainly due to not buying fm19 till around 6 months after it was out and was still enjoying it. Fm 20 was first game i have missed for years aswell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sedge11 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 6 hours ago, Tyburn said: Skipping this one. Improvements look to be in all the places that did not need improving. Press conferences and player interactions were one of the biggest areas that needed improving, hence why people always skip them. These improvements bring people back in, and get people enjoying them features again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindhoffen Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I pre-ordered it weeks ago and now it's installed and ready to rock! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephanie McMahon's Secret Lover Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 7 hours ago, sedge11 said: Press conferences and player interactions were one of the biggest areas that needed improving, hence why people always skip them. These improvements bring people back in, and get people enjoying them features again. Nice of you you to speak for the masses but I don't. I skip them because I don't want them in any way shape or form. "Assumption is the mother of all..." 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erimus1876 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 16 hours ago, Tyburn said: Skipping this one. Improvements look to be in all the places that did not need improving. Same. The ME looks a little better than FM20, but tbh, that wasn't hard to do since 20's ME was atrocious. I'm happily staying with FM17 for another year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger666 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) Sorry, wrong thread. Edited November 11, 2020 by Tiger666 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyMurphs Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Bought it and am loving it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingstontom88 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Close to buying it now, seeing as the feedback on the ME has been overwhelmingly positive thus far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haribo1681 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I'm waiting to see what feedback is like on the match engine, more than anything. I played FM20 loads after a roughly 10 year hiatus from FM and despite spending ages on it, a few things really frustrated me, particularly when playing as a 'big' team (BVB): - - It was too easy for lesser teams to kill matches by dominating possession in their own third/penalty area - centre backs and goalkeepers racking up 100+ passes and a team completing 700+ happened way too regularly, despite fairly aggressive pressing. And being less aggressive made no difference - they just passed it around endlessly 10 yards further up the pitch. - Despite this, winning was too easy (generally) - nearly all games would follow a really predictable pattern of the opposition dominating possession, then we score a set piece from nowhere or a winger completes a dribble to the byline and crosses for the opposite winger to score a header. Rinse and repeat, win 5-0 with less than 40% possession but still roughly 20 shots. - Playing any formation with an AMC was effectively playing with 10 men. - Perhaps connected to the above, there was literally zero play through the middle - every opportunity came from the wings. - Creating/tweaking tactics was more about trying to stop wasting possession than finding solutions to break teams down - making seemingly nonsensical changes to stop full backs from endlessly crossing, for example. So, we'll see how it goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampalaea4 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Every year, exploit tactics that make no sense are doing great while well thought realistic tactics are always mediocre at best. I am tired with this. Why do you care will you ask? well this is supposed to be a "simulation" game and realism is a big factor... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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