Crazy_T Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 my fellaini theory comes to life Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Valdes gone to Besiktas - our bloated keeper list reduces by 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Valdes gone to Besiktas - our bloated keeper list reduces by 1. DDG and DiG will both be gone this time next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSCCG Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Playing Depay on the right is some of the dumbest **** I've heard in a while. 'Hey lets take the guy who has scored half our goals this season and play him in a position which makes all of his best attributes useless against a team who couldn't deal with him last week' That will work well. While I don't necessarily disagree with your opinion, "half our goals" is less convincing when we consider that the raw number is in fact 2. I'd put forward another possible opinion: it might be better for a young talented player to experience many different positions in order to better understand the system and how the team/other teams plays rather than pigeonhole him early in his career. Michael Cox had a piece about building versatility early in a player's career in order for them to be more productive in their "proper" role when they have matured more. Most of the world class players around today are capable of playing in more than one position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheps. Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Have there been any rumours about us going in for Berardi? Looks like he could be worth a punt, he has a good goalscoring record for Sassuolo (42 goals in 99 games) and is only 21. Can play upfront or on the wings, left footed so would be a decent option on the right to cut in and shoot. There's already an agreement in place for him to join Juventus next summer. Clubs in Italy can't have co-ownership deals anymore, so Juventus sold their stake in him to Sassoulo to get around it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Apparently lvg has confirmed that fellaini will be used as a forward this season... I am hoping that is just as the go to option for the last 20 mins if we can't break teams down rather than starting him there regularly. Seen on Twitter about Fellaini. Wouldn't surprise me if it something lost in translation with LVG.Happens alot. Because he says things with such confidence, the media and fans think its 100% what he means. I saw the press conference, and he definitely meant up front as 9/10. Even made a joke about it, sort of. Don't disagree with him either. As he implied, we have better options in CM now, and Fellaini is more useful to us up front than in central midfield. Really hope DDG will stay, but can't shake the feeling that we're not playing him because he's gone, and if we did in the CL qualifiers he'd be CL-tied if we go through (think that's how it works). As good as our transfer business has been so far (it really has been good), this would mean losing the only world class players in the team in the same window in DDG and di Maria. Two steps forward and two back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share Posted August 26, 2015 I doubt that Berardi will ever go to Man Utd. Juventus sold him to sausuolo only because the co ownership wasnt allowed anymore. I think Juventus have a first option on him and I can imagine some more 'protective' clauses were agreed on when they sold him. There's already an agreement in place for him to join Juventus next summer. Clubs in Italy can't have co-ownership deals anymore, so Juventus sold their stake in him to Sassoulo to get around it. That's a shame then, looks like he'll be a very good player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheps. Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I'd put forward another possible opinion: it might be better for a young talented player to experience many different positions in order to better understand the system and how the team/other teams plays rather than pigeonhole him early in his career. Michael Cox had a piece about building versatility early in a player's career in order for them to be more productive in their "proper" role when they have matured more. Most of the world class players around today are capable of playing in more than one position. I'd be interested to see the article but I'd presume he means more very young players, still in early development stages. I know, for example, Ajax make players throughout their youth system play across various positions in order to gain experience and knowledge of every part of the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share Posted August 26, 2015 I saw the press conference, and he definitely meant up front as 9/10. Even made a joke about it, sort of. Don't disagree with him either. As he implied, we have better options in CM now, and Fellaini is more useful to us up front than in central midfield. Really hope DDG will stay, but can't shake the feeling that we're not playing him because he's gone, and if we did in the CL qualifiers he'd be CL-tied if we go through (think that's how it works). As good as our transfer business has been so far (it really has been good), this would mean losing the only world class players in the team in the same window in DDG and di Maria. Two steps forward and two back? LvG Fellaini comments on video here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34061547 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Fellaini scored more in 5 minutes then Rooney in 4 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 While I don't necessarily disagree with your opinion, "half our goals" is less convincing when we consider that the raw number is in fact 2. That's the point, although you have it the wrong way around. If we'd already scored 20 goals it would be fine but he's literally the only goal threat that we have I'd put forward another possible opinion: it might be better for a young talented player to experience many different positions in order to better understand the system and how the team/other teams plays rather than pigeonhole him early in his career. Michael Cox had a piece about building versatility early in a player's career in order for them to be more productive in their "proper" role when they have matured more. Most of the world class players around today are capable of playing in more than one position. That's all well and good if he was an under-performing young player in an otherwise functioning team. However his role is pretty much the only bit of the offense that actually might bag a goal at this point. I'll repeat, it's stupid on every level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshotbg Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Bayern reportedly ready to offer Muller a new deal. Shocker! Do we get a percentage of their signing fee / new salary? Who's next after Neymar? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeltmurrayuk Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 If anyone hasn't seen them the goals from the first leg against Brugge are now up on the BT Sport website (might be UK users only). It looks like they'll be putting up goals from the matches on their site for free one week after the game, they also seem to be uploading one goal from each game straight after the games have finished, however you have to wait the full week before you can see the rest of the goals from the matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Valdes gone to Besiktas - our bloated keeper list reduces by 1. Apparently all our surplus is wanted in instanbul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Fellaini scored more in 5 minutes then Rooney in 4 games. Start him today in front of Rooney to knock the ball down to him and be will catch up pretty quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPS Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Ipswich could have proved a bit of a bananaskin but now we'll be facing them with Neymar, Bale, Muller, Benzema and Ronaldo I'm confident we'll get the win. I'm sad enough to remember United getting a chasing by Ipswich in the Coca-Cola with an even better team - Nevland, Mulryne, Curtis, Cruyff, Thornley, etc... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Apparently all our surplus is wanted in instanbul. You can imagine a complex of United fallouts where Nani, Robin, and Valdes just casually live side-by-side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Herrera starts! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Manchester United @ManUtd 22s23 seconds ago #mufc XI: Romero; Darmian, Smalling, Blind, Shaw; Herrera, Carrick; Mata, Januzaj, Memphis; Rooney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Should be Hernandez for Adnan and swapped with Rooney. They need to score. Chicha will be our counter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 no Fellaini up front? booo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Seems Fellaini can also play a number 12 or 14 role well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Freeview channel 59 btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 That'll do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 "Play Depay on the right" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 "Play Depay on the right" I liked he looked for the pass after cutting inside rather than shooting all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldberg Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Michael Owen is so awful. Spent the first half wondering why players are staying on their feet & going on about Rooney not scoring. Rooney scores and he says he had a feeling he would score. So so bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 **** off dion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 **** off dion A sentiment we can all agree with at all times. (although he's obviously quite right here) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 All publicity is good publicity Herrera is having an interesting game though. Really hope he doesn't get sent off and blacklist himself from selection for the next 6 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldberg Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 The Herrera yellow was a bit harsh. He slipped but the earlier foul probably went against him. don't know why the commentators were going on about a handball when it clearly hit his chest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohanzee Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I wish Carrick/Herrera and our fullbacks were allowed to make forward runs more than once every blue moon. Someone mentioned we might do well in Europe this season. Think they might be right. Feel like we need 1-2 more individually brilliant players like Depay to make it far though. Boring as **** to watch, but tbh we look a lot like we've did away in Europe under Ferguson when Ronaldo was here, and we didn't do to bad then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Herrera's nightmare continues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Speaking of which... top quality falling over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Big Save Romero! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 This is still pretty shocking, tbf. We're attacking at will, it's not like they're defending for their lives, they're not very good and we still haven't created much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 We've had like 3 clear cut chances and a handful of other decent ones in a half. Under Fergie this would have been called a decent half and people would be hoping we don't try and sit on it in the second half and go for the kill (which we inevitably wouldn't do). It's only shocking if the only football match you've ever seen is the Brazil v Germany game at the last world cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 That's not a penality. Adnan a waste of a position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldberg Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 That ball from Herrera was sexy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I love Herrera, anyone else lashes that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohanzee Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Herrera 100x better playing in an advanced role. What a surprise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Herrera so good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Shocking it took us a full 3 minutes to score this half, terrible performance! This is definitely our strongest team though, hopefully if Rooney has stopped fluffing his lines for any length of time LvG will feel more comfortable playing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 We've had like 3 clear cut chances and a handful of other decent ones in a half. Under Fergie this would have been called a decent half and people would be hoping we don't try and sit on it in the second half and go for the kill (which we inevitably wouldn't do). It's only shocking if the only football match you've ever seen is the Brazil v Germany game at the last world cup. This all over. 5-1 up in aggregate and it's not good enough? Ridiculous. Did I not hear some statistic about Brugge not being beaten at home in Europe for a good while? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Much better this half. LVG probs read my post. You're all welcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldberg Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Brugge are ten unbeaten at home in Europe. They are atrocious though. We had a four on o e then when Mata played it slightly too hard towards Memphis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Looking at this second half, I don't think Januzaj will be starting for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 This striker up front is pretty good isn't he? Problem solved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Rooney now just 16 goals off of Sir Bobby's record. 17 to become top scorer with 250. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Like i said, they're not very good and this should have happened a lot sooner. I liked the Germany/Brazil comment though. Top bantz. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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