pouncer Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 It was released about two years ago and seriously, how does our performance in the World Cup dictate when a new kit can be launched?Surely, start of qualification for new tournament is a good time to release a kit. True, but I don't think people are going to be half as enthusiastic about buying a new England kit now than perhaps in a few months time (February, like normal perhaps) after we've played a few more games and the World Cup is a bit further away. A bad World Cup is affecting ticket sales for Friday's game, the same will happen with kits I reckon. Fair enough on the new kit, does seem like yesterday it was released though. I liked that one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Good kit. Best since euro 96 one I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 The dates seem to indicate that this kit just covers the qualification period. If we qualify for Euro 2012, I assume a new home will come out. So this kit is just for the qualification period then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Good kit. Best since euro 96 one I think. Really? :confused: I think it's just like a crap version of last year's one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I think it's good. Reckon it'll look even better up close too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper99 Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 I still think it looks horrible, worst kit for a while imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 I am not really into kits, I don't really care less what the strip looks like for the most part, ditto for game/world cup balls too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Think I should cancel my order for the new England shirt with Arteta 8 on the back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 God they don't half ask some stupid questions when they interview footballers/managers. Just been watching the Capello interview. "how important is it to win tomorrows game?" If I was a manager I'd just reply "that's a stupid question, stop wasting my time" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 "It's not important at all. We are actually aiming for a 3-1 loss, I've calculated the most likely results in all the fixtures and have a plan to qualify on goal difference" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Amazing how managers take these questions and answer them seriously but if you call them a wheeler dealer........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 They may as well not ask the question, they just want the usual 'it will be difficult / training is good / it's a challenge / no easy games / please don't hurt me' from the Manager so he may as well come out and read a prepared statement about how thoughts on the game. Best press conference question for England was Sven and before 2006 World Cup "who are you taking to the World Cup ..." and then before he could open his mouth ".... Nancy or Ulrika" I think even Sven had a wry smile at that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael F Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 God they don't half ask some stupid questions when they interview footballers/managers. Just been watching the Capello interview. "how important is it to win tomorrows game?" If I was a manager I'd just reply "that's a stupid question, stop wasting my time" Should just get Gordon Strachan to answer the stupid media questions Reporter: This might sound like a daft question, but you'll be happy to get your first win under your belt, won't you? Strachan: You're right. It is a daft question. I'm not even going to bother answering that one. It is a daft question, you're spot on there. "I tried to get the disappointment out of my system by going for a walk. I ended up 17 miles from home and I had to phone my wife, Lesley to come and pick me up." Reporter: Bang, there goes your unbeaten run. Can you take it? Strachan: No, I'm just going to crumble like a wreck. I'll go home, become an alcoholic and maybe jump off a bridge. Umm, I think I can take it, yeah. Reporter: Gordon, Do you think James Beattie deserves to be in the England squad? Strachan: I dont care, I'm Scottish “Pahars has also caught every virus going except a computer virus and he is probably working on that even now.” Reporter: "Gordon, can we have a quick word please?" Strachan: "Velocity" [walks off] Reporter: Welcome to Southampton Football Club. Do you think you are the right man to turn things around? Strachan: No. I was asked if I thought I was the right man for the job and I said, "No, I think they should have got George Graham because I'm useless." Reporter: Is that your best start to a season? Strachan: Well I've still got a job so it's far better than the Coventry one, that's for sure. “I have discovered that when you go to Anfield or Old Trafford, it pays not to wear a coloured shirt because everyone can see the stains as the pressure mounts. I always wear a white shirt so nobody sees you sweat.” Reporter: Are you getting where you want to be with this team? Strachan: We're not doing bad. What do you expect us to be like? We were eighth in the league last year, in the cup final and we got into Europe. I don't know where you expect me to get to. Do you expect us to win the Champions League? Reporter: Gordon, you must be delighted with that result? Strachan: You're spot on! You can read me like a book. I've got more important things to think about. I've got a yogurt to finish by today, the expiry date is today. That can be my priority rather than Agustin Delgado. Reporter: There's no negative vibes or negative feelings here? Strachan: Apart from yourself, we're all quite positive round here. I'm going to whack you over the head with a big stick, down negative man, down. Reporter: You don't take losing lightly, do you Gordon? Strachan: I don't take stupid comments lightly either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilly_boro Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Strachan's not been as funny since he came to Boro... maybe because its our defeats he's talking about so it takes the fun out About the kit... I bought the current one last week, and it is fb! Collar is the best part about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper99 Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Strachan interviews are brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael F Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 West Brom keeper Scott Carson has been released from the England squad to face Bulgaria in the Euro 2012 qualifier on Friday because of a family bereavement. Manager Fabio Capello has called up Watford's Scott Loach from the Under-21 squad as a replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Gribble Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Scored a free ticket to see the under 21's against Lithuania on Tuesday, anyone else going? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Bet that's really annoying for Stuart Pearce that Loach has been moved up, U21s have got a really big game tomorrow and he's had to give up his goalkeeper so that he can warm the bench for the senior side. Kudos to the UEFA officials who put both games on the same night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vynal Seven Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Was it also Strachan that said something like... "What area do you think they were better than you today?" "Mainly that big green one out there" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Love the velocity answer! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Bet that's really annoying for Stuart Pearce that Loach has been moved up, U21s have got a really big game tomorrow and he's had to give up his goalkeeper so that he can warm the bench for the senior side. Kudos to the UEFA officials who put both games on the same night. That's a good point. Should of just called up Robinson to set on the bench, how ever much he moans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilly_boro Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Bet that's really annoying for Stuart Pearce that Loach has been moved up, U21s have got a really big game tomorrow and he's had to give up his goalkeeper so that he can warm the bench for the senior side. Kudos to the UEFA officials who put both games on the same night. Its ok... Jason Steele will fill that void no problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Capello coming out with some quite funny stuff yesterday. We shall be playing a 9-1 formation tomorrow "Teams play 9-1,'' he declared. "Is there a difference between 4-4-2, 4-5-1 or 9-1? That's the modern style. See Barcelona. All the players defend, all the players go forward. We played this style, always with players defending and Rooney coming into midfield.'' Basically from what he's said Rooney, Defoe, Gerrard, Milner, Barry, Jagielka, Glenn Johnson, Ashley Cole and Joe Hart are gonna start in a 442. I'd guess Walcott will start right wing. Probably Upson the other centre back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Strachan interviews are brilliant. ... if he could just work on the Management thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/7978865/England-U21-v-Portugal-U21-win-or-bust-for-Stuart-Pearces-Euro-final-hopefuls.html So, players pulling out of the U21s as well then ... great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper99 Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Yeah, I'm starting to feel sorry for Pearce. He needs to win both games but is losing players left, right and centre. Can you still call up a couple of over 21 players? I hear Huddlestone and Lennon are free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted September 3, 2010 Administrators Share Posted September 3, 2010 Only if they were age eligible at the start of qualification... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper99 Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Ah well, never mind then... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Basically from what he's said Rooney, Defoe, Gerrard, Milner, Barry, Jagielka, Glenn Johnson, Ashley Cole and Joe Hart are gonna start in a 442. I'd guess Walcott will start right wing. Probably Upson the other centre back. Spot on I think, that team was in the tabloids this morning. The Sun apoplectic that, had Lampard and Terry been fit, then probably only the goalkeeper would have been changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikos Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Should play Lescott. His partnership with Jagielka would probably be quite useful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foolsgold Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 What channel is this on tonight ladies? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Didn't Capello say that the two CBs haven't played together before for England? Has to be Lescott/Upson and Jags then right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 The Independent think Rooney will play left wing. I thought we'd learned from that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foolsgold Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 If Cappello tries playing players out of position yet again then he should get a hammering. It's painfully clear that it's not working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper99 Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 But it probably will work ok in the qualifiers, only to be shown up in the real competition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 What channel is this on tonight ladies? ITV I'm afraid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I don't quite get how this is so difficult, really. Front four of Gerrard off Rooney, Johnson and Walcott/Milner on the wings. Each of them playing the same role they are used to with their clubs (yeah, yeah, Milner's a cm now, blah, blah) and should be very comfortable. Put Carrick/Huddlestone in the middle to get the ball to the front four with someone alongside him to run around and win the ball. If I were England manager I'd probably line up like this (assuming full squad without injuries) : -----------------------------------Hart---------------------------- Johnson--------Ferdinand----------Terry-------------Cole ----------------Carrick-------------Barry----------------------- Milner--------------------Gerrard------------------Johnson ----------------------------Rooney----------------------------- Can't remember a better midfielder for the Barry role atm, might be worth putting Milner in there unless City use him solely as a winger and Walcott on the wing. He'd bring the running and harassing that I'd want in there. Anyway, every player in the team playing in a position that they play week in, week out. Could even switch the wingers around like Mancini seems to like and make a lot of room for Cole and Johnson to go forward. With the current squad you could play that exact line-up but switch out the cb's. But that would probably make too much sense, eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted September 3, 2010 Author Share Posted September 3, 2010 Will be annoyed if we go 4-4-2 yet again, no doubt we will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 will be annoyed if barry plays again, no doubt he will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 100% sure we are going 4-4-2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltaroad Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Honestly every time we play one upfront Rooney gets too isolated and is forced to track back into midfield to get the ball. We see this time and time again the midfield lot playing too deep and not supporting him. Really not sure why people persist on playing 4-2-3-1. When we play that we seem to just give the ball to Rooney and expect him to run past 4 defenders and score. He really can't do that and he gets over marked too easily. On paper it looks great in practice we boo and moan. At half time we tend to change it to 442 with either Defoe or Crouch coming on and that seems to sparks us to life. The 4-2-3-1 just doesn't work for us as the wingers (Walcott/Johnson) don't cut inside or move in to support Rooney, they hug the touch line and go for the cross with nothing but a 10 stone over weight shrek to aim for. This is why Cole and Johnson occupy Walcott and Johnson space because Walcott and Johnson don't move in. They stay wide. 442 to start. When we are comfortable then change to 4231 to hold onto the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Hart; G Johnson, Jagielka, Upson, Cole; Walcott, Gerrard, Barry, Milner; Rooney, Defoe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett.spurs Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 What a dull team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mag man Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Look very average to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 as ever . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 ahh, we'll win and it'll be ok Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted September 3, 2010 Author Share Posted September 3, 2010 Gerrard or Milner out of position then, brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Is that team confirmed? As expected if so. I'm off to the tube anyway, see you on the other side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilly_boro Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I honestly don't know how Upson keeps getting in the starting XI. He was dire last season and dire at the WC. Give youth a chance etc ... and he keeps playing Upson I don't like Lescott and he had just as average a season as Upson last season but he has played with Jagielka before. Surely you'd play them two from that squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Gerrard or Milner out of position then, brilliant. Could be going 433 with Rooney Wide Left like he has done for United too much for you guys to hope for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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