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On 12/03/2021 at 16:44, Civili7ation said:

Hi All. I've been using this tactic with a new Sevilla save, and it's incredible. For what it's worth and before someone mentions it, the editor is active so I can fix kits mid-save, but no editing, no save scamming etc. All genuine results. 

This is the first year with Sevilla as well, standard team with a couple of minor signings. For the 6-0 against Real Madrid and 3-1 against Barcelona I changed to another one of Knap's 4-2-3-1 formations which is also in this thread. I'll try and find it if anyone is interested. I'd been training it, but never used it in a game. It seems to be incredible for a 'good' team like Sevilla going up against the elite. 

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Just an update on this. I did the Quadruple in my first season with Sevilla using the Disraeli Gears tactic and then using the Echoes 4-2-3-1 against the 'elite' teams I beat Real Madrid 6-0, Barcelona 6-0 and Man United 4-0 in the UCL Final.

Did an invincible season in all competitions and I'm in the 'English Hall of Fame' after just the first season ha! 

I played Munir and En-Nesyri as the AMCs in the Disraeli Gear tactic with Suso as ML and OCampos as MR. Rakitic on CM (A) and Jordan on DMC. 

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6 hours ago, pinball_88 said:

where can I download them from for test?

2053371212_!!FM21.6DISRAELIGEARS41320VOL4P102fa.fmf

Hopefully this works? I've just uploaded them straight from my tactics folder to save scrolling through this thread. 

The Disraeli Gears tactic is my 'regular' tactic and then I found randomly that the Echoes 4-2-3-1 seems incredible against the elite teams like Barcelona and Real Madrid. 

I did try Echoes against lesser teams but seemed to struggle, so I just kept it as my 'underdog' tactic. 

!!FM21.6ECHOESKnap4231P111.fmf

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11 minutes ago, stian said:

@knap How does the new update in ME effect the tactics so far?

Hey all, just to confirm since we always get some confusion:

  • The only changes to the ME were to CCC recognition and to throw in distances.
  • We did not make any other changes, it'd be far too risky for us to do so for an update of this kind.
  • Since the only real ME change was to throw ins, it's unlikely that open play would be affected in any noticeable way.

Thanks!

 

 

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@PAFC_Dugout

Just as an observation wing play looks different in final third and more woodwork.

When FMRTE is updated I will check on the long test on tactic performace. There was only GK Distribution last time but tactic results were down.

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my 2 cents - the highest tested darkside of the moon 4-3-1-2 tactic is the best around for elite teams / with the right squad. I cant make IWB tactics work and cant bring myself to go strikerless with the players I have. 5+ trophies in both of the past 2 years. 72 goals Mbappe:  

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1 hour ago, Martinho said:

my 2 cents - the highest tested darkside of the moon 4-3-1-2 tactic is the best around for elite teams / with the right squad. I cant make IWB tactics work and cant bring myself to go strikerless with the players I have. 5+ trophies in both of the past 2 years. 72 goals Mbappe:  

 

Can you link this tactic? Not certain which one you're using.

 

EDIT: Is it the  ME 21.6 - P108 one? 

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DISCORD INVITE

https://discord.gg/KEGeG24F

 

Weighted attributes Pdf

Attribute_Weights.pdf.pdf35.17 kB · 59 downloads

Filters from The Prof

filters_110854 (1).zip182.39 kB · 25 downloads

TEST RESULTS

You can use results in a few ways.

Top covers say top 5 Clubs in Division Mid the next 7 and then under dog.

Just use totals as an all round tactic.

Use best top at home and best underdog away or difficult games.

You can mix and match with your preferred formations.

It is just a guide to help identify right tactic.

AWAY GAMES SUS

With regard to Away games it depends upon your own risk factor. I am gung ho and prefer to attack and perhaps win 1 game in 3. If isk adverse then use a defensive tactic and perhaps draw all 3 games.

As a defensive formation I would use 4141 as it has a DM and protects wings, and KINGSTONIAN 4141 would be my choice.

I use 3 DLs std higher much higher. If AI are going for balls over top then std but if AI attacking you can leave at higher ormuch higher. 

The LOE can be adjusted with or without DL adjustments. The simple answer is just drop LOE..

I use Cautious positive and attacking mentalities.

For a SUS these are ideas to use.

Use 4141 formation

Remove pass into space

Stop WB runs by go

ing to defend or no nonsense FB

Use Defend on DM or most defensive MC

Change mentality Positive/cautious

Add Time wasting

Change from counter press and counter and full SUS would be to regroup and hold shape

I tend to judge what to use by how the game is progressing as you may just to want to control game rather than a full SU

SHOUTS FROM CADON

Calm Down (win by 1 goal diff) -

Praise (win by 2 goal diff) -

Berate (loss by 2 goal diff) -

Demand More (loss by 1 goal diff or draw)

 

MARTINHO Guide to set up for Clubs especially Newcastle

 

ROBER GUIDE TO CLUB SET UP 

New_Game_2 (1).pdf 322.53 kB · 27 downloads

 

 

 

RDF TRAINING SCHEDULES

For_Knaps_Tactics_One_Match_RDF.fmf19.24 kB · 176 downloads

For_Knaps_Tactics_Two_Matches_RDF.fmf19.24 kB · 148 downloads

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3 hours ago, Martinho said:

i miei 2 centesimi - la tattica 4-3-1-2 del lato oscuro della luna più testata è la migliore in circolazione per le squadre d'élite / con la squadra giusta. Non riesco a far funzionare le tattiche della LIM e non riesco a convincermi ad andare senza attaccanti con i giocatori che ho. 5+ trofei in entrambi gli ultimi 2 anni. 72 gol Mbappe:  

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Hi, which tactic have you used?

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@Augustin1979 @paulo.massaro Its actually quite a way down now on the list of top tested tactics (started with it about 2 weeks ago), but having tried 5 or 6 of the best tested ones this is the best IMHO in terms of consistency, results, goals, football played and posession - Tactic ID: 214153

Use it with my shouts guide on main post. My outfield 10 are all 4 / 4.5 / 5 star however

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2 hours ago, Campagna said:

Hi @Icondacarver, which Echoes 4411? There are 2 Echoes 4411 tactics on Google docs.

 

ECHOES 4411 P100 EC CC or ECHOES VOL 2 4411 P105 FA :)

 

On 09/03/2021 at 20:49, knap said:

Hey @Campagna it is this one.

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8 hours ago, knap said:

@PAFC_Dugout

Just as an observation wing play looks different in final third and more woodwork.

When FMRTE is updated I will check on the long test on tactic performace. There was only GK Distribution last time but tactic results were down.

I also noticed much more woodwork and missed one on ones.

Seems that apart from throw ins, corners and indirect freekicks were tuned down a bit as well. Direct freekicks look the same, I still see a bunch of Messis scoring from everywhere in the Vanarama league.

One final notice, it seems that AI reaction to big winning streaks is a bit more realistic. So, with the exact same team and tactics (4-3-1-2 btw) that I was having 30 shots per game vs 5 by the opponent and end up with something like a 2-2 draw, now I'm getting a lot less shots. Watching a match on key, I might not get a single highlight until half time at some cases. On the other hand, if I'm having a great first half, I find myself cornered on the second half more than I used to.

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23 minutes ago, jackblenkiron said:

Has anyone ran ‘!!FM21.6ECHOESKnap4231P111’ in the championship yet? Was thinking of giving it a blast with Birmingham when I get my PC fixed.

 

21.3 with Blackburn, no transfers in the first season. 108 Points, Armstrong (STC) scored 39 in 38 games. Had to change to Holy ghostfire 21.6 103 P in the Prem though, I was getting destroyed after promotion.

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Not so much ineffective but you need the specialists to do them it seems. In league 2 of a tier 10 save i started, my long throw specialists I've noticed no difference.

My backup right back with no throw in skill now throws like.....he has no skill in throw ins 

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30 minutes ago, stanleycjames said:

are long throws now ineffective ?

their not ineffective, they are now supposed to be dependent on how good the long throw stat of the taker is not the position they play

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@cfwhittle

No reason why not as strikerless are still the best formation.

The latest Baden Powell vid with HGF 41212 in VNS shoes 21.6 results. In Discord you can see the same test with 21.7 results..

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