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Yes, i'm posting this everywhere, but i'm incredibly proud :****)

From starting in the 8th tier of the English League in 2010, and 57 seasons, 2965 games, 10 promotions and 5 relegations later, i've finally won the god damn Premier League. Yas! :cool:

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What the hell do I do now?

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what took you so long? :brock: in all seriousness congratulations for sticking to it! :cool:

p.s - would be interested in a screen shot of facilities including training, youth, recruitment, junior coaching and stadium capacity aswell as one of your finances...are they making a profit as your transfer dealings seem to suggest?

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With that formation, I'm surprised it didn't take you even longer to win it.

The formation is incredible :D Works lovely, it's a 4-3-3 when attacking, drops back to a 4-4-2 when defending.

It took me a bloody long time to win the league, far too long really. I didn't spend a penny until I was in League 1, until I realised I needed to start kicking on. The Premiership, by the time I hit it, was quite clearly dominated by the big few (Champions League money means they've pretty much broken away; only West Ham's billionaire owner has consistently kept them up with the usual 6) meant that it took me a fair few seasons to get anywhere near.

I've also been pretty tight with my money; record signing Jose Ramirez cost me £14 million, so i've never really spent too much. I'd much prefer to spend cheap and sell big, even if that means i'm having to work for my title rather than buying my way there. I've overspent on wages this year, but it's clearly paid off; I was top after 3 games, 12 points clear by November.

As for cups, the first cup I actually won was the Europa League :D Never won a lower league cup, most promotions were through playoffs / second. Europa has now been won twice, FA Cup three times. I managed to get to the Champions League final a couple years previous, but I lost 4-5 in the final :( In fact, until 4 years ago, I hadn't really been in the Champions League at all, and the few times I did, I lost in the qualifying rounds. I've only made it to the group stages 3 times.

In terms of club growth, it's been low. I've never had much of a following for the team, until I managed the CL final, we had averages of around 20k in the stadium. Never sold out. This year every home game has been a sell out, so I want to upgrade, but we can't afford it. We're still a dinky little team in the grand scheme of things!

So yes, it's been a bit of a save game of love. I've always skipped out on the new games because this save has been so bloody amazing. I couldn't care less how crap we are, I feel somewhat attached to the team now <3

So, here's some screens as requested:

Newport Pagnell History: http://imageupper.com/s02/1/9/J13787496661998738_10.png

Newport Pagnell Info: http://imageupper.com/s02/1/9/J13787496661998738_14.png

Newport Pagnell('s tiny) Stadium: http://imageupper.com/s02/1/9/J13787496661998738_20.png

Newport Pagnell All Time 11: http://imageupper.com/s02/1/9/J13787496661998738_1.png

Newport Pagnell Finances: http://imageupper.com/s02/1/9/J13787496661998738_9.png

Newport Pagnell Expenditure: http://imageupper.com/s02/1/9/J13787496661998738_22.png

Newport Pagnell Wages: http://imageupper.com/s02/1/9/J13787496661998738_19.png

Newport Pagnell Income: http://imageupper.com/s02/1/9/J13787496661998738_11.png

Current PL: http://imageupper.com/s02/1/9/J13787496661998738_16.png

Current Championship: http://imageupper.com/s02/1/9/J13787496661998738_4.png

Current L1: http://imageupper.com/s02/1/9/J13787496661998738_12.png

Current L2: http://imageupper.com/s02/1/9/J13787496661998738_13.png

Premier League Winners: http://imageupper.com/s02/1/9/J13787496661998738_15.png

FA Cup Winners: http://imageupper.com/s02/1/9/J13787496661998738_8.png

Carling Cup Winners: http://imageupper.com/s02/1/9/J13787496661998738_2.png

Champions League Winners: http://imageupper.com/s02/1/9/J13787496661998738_3.png

Europa League Winners: http://imageupper.com/s02/1/9/J13787496661998738_6.png

Euro Winners: http://imageupper.com/s02/1/9/J13787496661998738_7.png

World Cup Winners: http://imageupper.com/s02/1/9/J13787496661998738_21.png

Richest Clubs: http://imageupper.com/s02/1/9/J13787496661998738_18.png

Coefficient: http://imageupper.com/s02/1/9/J13787496661998738_5.png

As you can see, the Premier League is fairly in tact, but the lower leagues have been scattered like crazy. Wigan in particular; they've spent most of the last twenty seasons playing non-league, dropping down to the Blue Square North for a good while. Arsenal's saving pays off ;)

Any other screens, just give me a shout :)

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I may be wrong but amount of sponsorship money is nowhere near what it should be, you should be looking at at least 10-15 million a year and instead you're on 5 mil... and you're playing in Premiership and CL for a couple of seasons now, how can you operate in red I don't understand

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looks like you have to be a selling club for the forseeable future...I suppose that's no bad thing. I love the idea of promoting youth/free transfers and making profit on them. which league did you start in? is it conference south or can you start in lower?

Edit: just seen Charmain status as 'Happy to Stay' meaning you're due a takeover shortly...I think a rich owner would spoil it for you...hope it works out dude.

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Thanks for the stats, fascinating to see.

And this is also where I think the game misses out. For a team like yours doing as well as you are, there is no way you would only have 9372 season ticket holders. The game just doesn't build in enough glory hunters (or leavers if you start doing badly). I really hope that FM14 has an amended reputation system.

***edit*** Just noticed that you have a player in the subs for the best 11 called Anne Lee. Are women playing in the Premiership 2068? ;)

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Yeah, we're a small little selling club. We bring in no money, we have no fans. I've spent way over my means this season, so i'm likely to have to let go two or three first teamers this summer (i'm looking to recoup around £30 million, a good 100k on the wages). The numbers above seem to be horrific, but we've never been in an awful state. It's the major reason why it's taken me so long to get where we are; most of my players slowly become unaffordable and I end up selling because the wages hit 70k+

What we really need is a new stadium, as 24k isn't enough, and a decent sponsor to come in. They've been in place since before my CL efforts, so i'm hoping next time around we get a decent offer. And yes, a takeover would be alright if we dont get someone in with lots of money, but even if we become rich, i'll never spend it, it would really just make the club safe.

It's frustrating, certainly, when I see how little we make and how unrealistic it is, but i've managed to work around it :)

PS: Don't forget, this is FM11. I'm sure things have improved since then!

looks like you have to be a selling club for the forseeable future...I suppose that's no bad thing. I love the idea of promoting youth/free transfers and making profit on them. which league did you start in? is it conference south or can you start in lower?

My epic left winger was a £5 million purchase, just turned down a £25 million offer. Ricardinho scored 33 goals last year, brought him in for free, just turned down £60 million (although i'm getting twitchy about that one...)

Started down in the Zamaretto Central, which is two levels below the Conference South.

Just noticed that you have a player in the subs for the best 11 called Anne Lee. Are women playing in the Premiership 2068? ;)

I know! I think Anne might be a dutch male name, but i've decided that she's the first woman ever to play in the football league. He/She had long hair and a girly face anyway!

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well done!!

I enjoyed looking at them screenshots!! great to see and makes me regret never getting past 5 seasons in this game, let alone 50!

who's the lowest current Premier League team? is it Wigan or is there a team even lower than them?

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My epic left winger was a £5 million purchase, just turned down a £25 million offer. Ricardinho scored 33 goals last year, brought him in for free, just turned down £60 million (although i'm getting twitchy about that one...)

Started down in the Zamaretto Central, which is two levels below the Conference South.

Personally if it was me and you appear to be hemorrhaging money...I would be reluctant to sell the £60million striker as you would end up just watching it fritter away. Certainly a difficult choice to make. The last time I sold a play for over £25million was Jamie McMaster from Leeds to Real Madrid for 68million on CM00/01...Just don't seem to attract any attention for my players unless I transfer list them.

Have you won the champs league yet? if not...surely that's the next step.

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I was just looking to find out what transfer fees were 57 years ago. In 1957 Sivori went from River Plate to Juventus for a record £93k so in 57 years from now, inflation factored in, the average player would be going for about a billion pounds!!! That's (inflation) something that has never been considered in FM games. Also, football probably won't look anything like what we play now in 2070 if it hasn't imploded with wage demands, bankruptcy and agents bringing it down!

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57 years is a long period! That could be a lot faster!

10 promotions and 5 relegations and you and up in the 3th tier, if starting in 8th tier. Maybe you started in the 6th? Normally the lowest tier ingame with data updates.

Or FM doesn't count winning the league as promotion...

Do you have some successes in Europe?

You didn't sell of buy players for a lot of money?!

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Nice work! After 57 seasons and you've only brought in £459M from player sales? Is that due to the club still being low rep so their values are low? My longest FM save was around 20 or so seasons and I brought in over £1B, but I was at Rangers (maybe FM09/10) so rep was diff. I also focus on the transfer/finances side of the game a lot.

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My record sale only stands at £20million. To be honest, i've not really sold many players because i've managed to hang onto my better ones. I would say the majority of my best players have stuck at the club 10+ years. Secondly, i've always bought in low, and sold higher, but clearly not significantly. However, my team isn't all that good to be honest, i've never had (bar Ricardinho and the £55million offer which I rejected) anyone hugely talented worth enough money!

One Champions League final, two Europa League wins. Obviously the Champions League is my next target.

Yep, started in level 8 using one of the databases. The most successful team from down there would be Prescot, who lost out in the Championship playoffs. No-one bar me from the lower leagues has progressed that far up. From non-league Ebbsfleet are probably the most successful, but have never managed to have a continued spell in the PL.

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Wow mate, my longest save so far is Newcastle United 2023. You definitely have staying power and congratulate you on your tremendous achievement. I'm in utter amazement my friend of your patience.

I just have 1 question...how did you not get sacked with the inevitable bad results and relegation?

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