Senegal's Arsenal Thread 2012/2013 : featuring positive negativity

[EdL]

Only sy could complain about a sensible move to stop us screwing ourselves financially, of course you would complain if we had a massive wage bill and no way to fund it also.

[djvandyke]

Fantastic move! What timing! Just when we need to convince players who already question our ambition to renew expiring contracts the club pull this one out of the bag.

Goodbye Walcott. Goodbye Sagna. Goodbye Champions League football.

Will the last player to leave Arsenal please turn out the lights.

[SJ234]

Jesus christ If another club was doing it and we weren't we would be hearing about how inept they are for not incentivising performance

[Rhino]

Typical over-reaction from the usual drama llamas.

It's a common sense decision from Arsenal, and one all clubs should be doing. Maybe the phraseology is wrong, and they should be offered a basic salary with financial incentive for Champions League qualification.

[Sy13]

Jesus christ If another club was doing it and we weren't we would be hearing about how inept they are for not incentivising performance

Yeah, it's not like we've got £70m in the bank to add real quality and guarantee CL football.

Oh, hang on....

[SJ234]

The relevance of the money in the bank is? How would spending the money guarantee CL football hardly worked out well for Liverpool and they spent much more than £70million if you include wages which that will include

[Icelander83]

Yeah, it's not like we've got £70m in the bank to add real quality and guarantee CL football.

Oh, hang on....

This is the most nonsensical arguement you've come up with yet and that's saying something

[djvandyke]

Check out the arsenal.com headlines, talking up the opposition!

Mertesacker - It’s special to face Swansea

Szczesny - Swansea have really impressed me

Wenger - Swansea are a dangerous side throughout

[georginho_juventusygr]

How much debt do you guys actually have?

[djvandyke]

£98.9 million

[georginho_juventusygr]

It's then understandable why those 70M stays in the bank.

[ajw10]

Theo fit for tomorrow apparently. The jinx worked!

[bergkamp]

Ramsay first name on the team sheet.

[bergkamp]

Seriously, I know we don't have Fabregas, Nasri, Song even Diaby etc etc these days, but when was the last time we popped the ball about with purpose and tempo in midfield?

[djvandyke]

It's then understandable why those 70M stays in the bank.

It really isn’t as the debt is the form long term sustainable loans and £98m is peanuts to a club generating £250m+ revenue each season.

The lack of investment is recklessly risking the clubs future ability to generate the same kind of revenues.

Asset stripping is not a sustainable business plan.

[Dale Gribble]

It's kinda not though is it? If you earn £25k a year at your job you're not gonna say £10k is peanuts when you have bills to pay etc.

[djvandyke]

It's kinda not though is it? If you earn £25k a year at your job you're not gonna say £10k is peanuts when you have bills to pay etc.

What a bizarre comparison, I'd be quite happy with 10k left on my mortgage thanks, even if I only earned 25k!

[Kawee]

I think I read somewhere that much of the 70m is untouchable. As part of the loan deal (with fantastic interest rate I might add) we must keep a certain amount of liquidity in our bank account.

[Chr1s Lawson]

Thats like saying you have a massive penis but your not allowed to have sex! Well at least not until your too old to use it effectively.....

[Sy13]

I think I read somewhere that much of the 70m is untouchable. As part of the loan deal (with fantastic interest rate I might add) we must keep a certain amount of liquidity in our bank account.

Utter tosh.

If its untouchable then why have the board and Wenger claimed for years that there is plenty of money in the bank for transfers?

[Sy13]

I think I read somewhere that much of the 70m is untouchable. As part of the loan deal (with fantastic interest rate I might add) we must keep a certain amount of liquidity in our bank account.

Utter tosh.

If its untouchable then why have the board and Wenger claimed for years that there is plenty of money in the bank for transfers?

People need to wake up and realise we generate masses amounts of money as a football club whilst still getting outspent on transfers by every other club in the division.

[Kawee]

Utter tosh.

If its untouchable then why have the board and Wenger claimed for years that there is plenty of money in the bank for transfers?

People need to wake up and realise we generate masses amounts of money as a football club whilst still getting outspent on transfers by every other club in the division.

Lets say 30/70 is untouchable. 40m is still more money than we've ever had.

Also, we're not being out spent by every team. Our wage is at record level, and is 4th biggest in the league. That's where most of ou money as gone to. Unfortunately, it's been inefficiently spent on players who don't contribute enough for us, like Diaby and Chamakh.

[Chr1s Lawson]

28 mins first shot from arsenal

[Kawee]

Jenkinson put in some good crosses. Wish Giroud was in there. Not a fan of Gervinho at all. Hopefully, he's fit enough to replace Gervinho at some point.

[Chr1s Lawson]

Boos around the stadium again! first half summary, Swansea = lively and imaginitive, Arsenal = slow, unadventurous & boring.

[bergkamp]

Swansea teaching us a lesson.

[Suggy33]

Basically the same as this match last season, which we only won cause Vorm can't kick and Arshavin is too lazy to get back.

[ajw10]

Why will Gervinho start? Or Chamberlain for that matter?

Yeah.......

[Eugster]

Bring Rosicky on.

[Chr1s Lawson]

Bring Rosicky on.

Wenger says he makes us play at a faster pace and tbf, we couldn't be any slower or more boring at the moment!

[Sy13]

What does Wenger have to do to get sacked??

[Kawee]

What does Wenger have to do to get sacked??

Not finishing top 4 while playing such awful football should be enough, but it probably won't be

[Carmi88]

Why do we only start to play better in the second half? not good enough

[ArsenalFan7]

It does make you wonder how far Wenger can go though, say we get to January the 2nd after the Southampton game and we're still mid table and look mediocre. I would hope that wouldn't be the case and know we should end up better off. But just wonder how the situation would look for Wenger if that did ever happen? Could the club bring themselves to mount pressure on such an icon and one who many adore and believe can't be replaced with a better solution?

[ajw10]

Podolski is ****. Is not good enough to play in a team like ours.

[Chr1s Lawson]

If only we had players like Michu!

[Retro]

Jesus H... just when I was thinking 0-0 was a bad result.

[Carmi88]

that was coming a mile off

[Sy13]

Well that's it.

Wenger has lost the dressing room and now the fans. He's done and needs to be sacked this very evening.

[Carmi88]

I think I would drop everybody from the midfield up, and just play the second team, useless

[johnhughthom]

lol lol lol

[Carmi88]

2-0 ? wow we are ****

[Retro]

Jesus H... just when I was thinking 0-1 was a bad result.

[Suggy33]

Last 3 games have been some of the worst Arsenal games I've ever seen. No movement, we cannot deal with teams pressing us high (as shown marvellously in the second goal today).

Just needs something different in the team.

[H.O.V.I]

This has to be wenger's last season, the whole situation has gone on too long now.

[Carmi88]

Maybe we can snap up De Matteo?

[Sy13]

The boo's for Wenger is music to my ears. Get him out NOW.

[ajw10]

Wenger Out. Simply has to go. We are finishing 8th atm.

[ArsenalFan7]

Can you just imagine djvandyke and Sy on the day of Wenger's sacking? Would be incredible scenes.

[Chr1s Lawson]

At least we've got £150m sponsorship money!