SRL88 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 No Doni, find that a bit odd but LUCAS :*) That was the first thing which came to my mind as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Walcott does want wages which Arsenal believe are commensurate with his performance if you are to believe certain quite well informed people on twitter. There are multiple other factors such as our lack of movement on our side on giving him a new deal, the RVP issue and possibly not playing up front Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Doni can't fly to certain parts of America apparently, no idea why. Is it worth joining the auto cup scheme at Liverpool? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 BBC Sport suggesting that Newcastle will come back with an improved offer for Carroll. I see no reason why we should loan him to them, right now they are a rival club and we should not be doing them any favours at all. The only deal that is acceptable would have to involve one of their players coming our way in exchange (Cisse, Ba, Cabaye or Tiote would be ok). I can't believe they offered to loan him and pay part of his wages with a future fee of £17m (as somebody quoted earlier). That would essentially mean that we had payed a fee of £18m to loan him for the last 18 months, then on his return to Newcastle we carry on paying some of his wages for another season. What a joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 They are just trying to take the mick a little bit by getting him back on the cheap. Ashley is a business man you know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted July 16, 2012 Author Share Posted July 16, 2012 Is Doni on a no-fly list or something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 We have a Dennis Bergkamp on our hands....but just not in the same position or anywhere near the quality . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperclips Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 We should keep Carroll. Unless a very unlikely offer of £25million plus comes our way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 It looks like Carroll has travelled to America, so at least Brendan will have a look at him before deciding. Any friendlies being shown on LFC TV? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Carroll has no future with us. Worst signing by any club ever. Get rid and move on, and close this whole sorry chapter in this clubs history. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northeu Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Ha, he wasn't even the worst signing made by us in the last 2 years. Joe (already cost us 14 million for F-all) Cole and Downing would probably rank above him. I'd still keep him for another year, He has SOMETHING it might not be 35 million quids worth of something but at least its there, writing it off now would be a waste and the risk of his value dropping further doesn't out weigh what we would get back now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_cote_kid Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Carroll has no future with us. Worst signing by any club ever. Get rid and move on, and close this whole sorry chapter in this clubs history. Hate to say it, but i agree with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 It looks like Carroll has travelled to America, so at least Brendan will have a look at him before deciding.Any friendlies being shown on LFC TV? Spurs and Roma games are on ESPN live while all pre-season games will be shown on LFC TV delayed coverage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Oh the stick I got in here when we bought Carroll for being negative about him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knapp... Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 would agree he has no real future here, its obvious we've been touting him about. the lack of activity by my man jen chang or rodgers himself trying to quell the rumours says it all. shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 If Rodgers does sell on Carroll for £18million less than what he transferred to Liverpool, then he better do something special next season with his brand of football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Its a shame that things havent worked out for Carroll, but if Rodgers doesnt feel like he fits into the system then its his decision. I wish things could have worked out for the big man, I honestly do, but Rodgers shouldnt have to try and force him into the side just because there is pressure on him to do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Carroll has no future with us. Worst signing by any club ever. Get rid and move on, and close this whole sorry chapter in this clubs history. Massive overstatement or what!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Its a shame that things havent worked out for Carroll, but if Rodgers doesnt feel like he fits into the system then its his decision. I wish things could have worked out for the big man, I honestly do, but Rodgers shouldnt have to try and force him into the side just because there is pressure on him to do so. He doesn't have to force him in the team. But he could keep him for a year and see how things turn out. He's making a massive decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 He doesn't have to force him in the team. But he could keep him for a year and see how things turn out. He's making a massive decision. He is yeah, Im not going to disagree with you at all. I suspect that is why he is taking him to America to see how things go. You never know, it might be something which works out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Looks like we're after Joe Allen. I'll be all over that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Oh the stick I got in here when we bought Carroll for being negative about him Such as? Don't remember anyone being supportive of the fee we paid for him, and don't remember anyone being that jubilant about his signing. Had a quick look and the only thing I can see you saying about him when we bought him is trying to justify his price by comparing his goal record to Rooneys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne'o Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 In reality the cost of carroll at 35-mill shouldn't be throwed apoun really, we as a club have only spent 20-mill on players in past 5 season's when you put that against ourincoming transfer fees.. Aqua man at 18 million which has hardly played, the wages of Cole who hasn't made an impact and never will at his age.. baring all that in mind, unless BR knows a player that can come in and definately turn out better performances and aid the way we will play next year i think Carroll is worth keeping.. i think we have wasted more money on wages for mediocra players than we've spent on fee's... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne'o Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Such as? Don't remember anyone being supportive of the fee we paid for him, and don't remember anyone being that jubilant about his signing. Had a quick look and the only thing I can see you saying about him when we bought him is trying to justify his price by comparing his goal record to Rooneys. When we signed Carrol his stats at that time made him the most prolific striker in the league, he had more goals per minutes ration, more assists, less shots with a higher goal return etc.. was it some smart arse on a computer that advised Kenny to sign him for 35_mill?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Looks like we're after Joe Allen. I'll be all over that. This is bollocks surely. There is meant to be an agreement between the clubs unless Swansea actually want to sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_cote_kid Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 If Rodgers does sell on Carroll for £18million less than what he transferred to Liverpool, then he better do something special next season with his brand of football. Why should the Carroll shambles be a stick with which to beat Brendan Rodgers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Such as? Don't remember anyone being supportive of the fee we paid for him, and don't remember anyone being that jubilant about his signing. Had a quick look and the only thing I can see you saying about him when we bought him is trying to justify his price by comparing his goal record to Rooneys. It was at the end of the season rather than at the time of purchase. Me and Inspidus basically fighting against everyone who was defending Carroll. Ben in particular went off on one after I referred to him as Crouch with a mullet, because Kenny isn't daft enough to buy a plan b battering ram, he doesn't play that way. also, a quality post from SSN at about the same point in the thread: http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/213454-Liverpool-Thread-2010-11?p=6829897&viewfull=1#post6829897 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 He just had his best season at Villa, so shush your noise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Why should the Carroll shambles be a stick with which to beat Brendan Rodgers? Because he's not give him a chance (if he does go) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jongi Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 the major reason i think that people want carroll given a chance is because of the possible loss we make on him. if br doesn't feel the style of play suites carroll, then it does no one any favours to be keeping him. a part of me wants to keep him hoping what we started to see near the back end of last season was the start of something. what happens if it was a blip and playing in a team where the style doesn't suit him only further drives his price down? these are such unknowns that if we can get our target price, we should cut our losses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert the Spud Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 did not Danny Graham, a tall target man type with no pace, thrive quite productively under BR's management? I can only see Carroll as back-up under him though, and so therefore it's only good sense to sell him on given his price and wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benkeat Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Yeah Crouch with a mullet What a ****ing idiotic shout that was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benkeat Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 It's a ponytail for a start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Good read . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widzew Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I'm gutted I wont get to see reina and suarez play in Toronto this week but at the same time excited to see Gerrard. Im 4 rows behind the Liverpool bench. anyone been to these preseason frendlies before? How friendly are the players? lol Like if I yell at Gerrard will he come over and sign my shirt? Obviously not come off the pitch lol but if hes sitting on the bench. What do you guys think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 ive just heard carroll didnt get on the plane to america?? can anyone confirm this? if so he's gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Yeah Crouch with a mullet What a ****ing idiotic shout that was. Yeah it was a bad comparison for the wrong reasons. Carroll never going to be remembered as fondly as Crouchy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standard liege! Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I'm gutted I wont get to see reina and suarez play in Toronto this week but at the same time excited to see Gerrard. Im 4 rows behind the Liverpool bench. anyone been to these preseason frendlies before? How friendly are the players? lol Like if I yell at Gerrard will he come over and sign my shirt? Obviously not come off the pitch lol but if hes sitting on the bench. What do you guys think? Why aren't you supporting Toronto? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standard liege! Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 ive just heard carroll didnt get on the plane to america??can anyone confirm this? if so he's gone. All the English players + a few others are joining up later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 yeah but its on the official site that he was going in the 34 man squad. along with johnson and gerrard. did they go? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standard liege! Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 yeah but its on the official site that he was going in the 34 man squad. along with johnson and gerrard. did they go? Johnson, Kelly, Gerrard, Carroll, Henderson, Reina and Coates haven't gone yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 yeah ok, just switched talkcrap on for a second and the presenter was going ape about him not going which got me thinking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widzew Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Why aren't you supporting Toronto? Because ive been supporting Liverpool since I could walk and talk... Toronto only got a team a number of years back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standard liege! Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Because ive been supporting Liverpool since I could walk and talk... Toronto only got a team a number of years back If you are from Toronto I don't get why you wouldn't support them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 If you are from Toronto I don't get why you wouldn't support them. Why don't you support Oxford? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widzew Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 If you are from Toronto I don't get why you wouldn't support them. I just told you why. Why would I jump ship from a club ive loved since I was a little kid to a club that just formed only because I live near it? Sorry but the heart chooses the club I support not geography. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standard liege! Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Why don't you support Oxford? I'm not from Oxford (I did say "if you are from") I have been to over 150 Oxford matches Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 The England players are joining up next monday I think, so they will be back for the Fenway game but not there for the Toronto match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jongi Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 yeah ok, just switched talkcrap on for a second and the presenter was going ape about him not going which got me thinking. first thing i thought was the english contingent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
niggle Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Sly sports were dribbling at the mouth reading it out earlier about Carroll not being on the plane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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