Jambo98

FM17 - The community formation experiment

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The team

ok so @AndySummers was kind enough to summarise some of the teams in the old thread. Ideally we would go for a Europa team, in my opinion, and we did France last year so probably rule that out along with the EPL. A quick glance at Holland and Portugal makes me think that beyond the "big 3" in those respective countries, the squads are probably not right for this (possibly AZ in holland but a bit low on quality). 


Italy

Sassuolo - Europa qualified, predicted position 9th - Personally i really like this option. A nice varied squad, one potential superstar and a few other strong players. Also the faiytale aspect to there recent history

Fiorentina - Europa qualified, predicted position 6th - Used in this experiment a few years ago, so possibly not one to repeat although a decent enough squad

Lazio - Not in Europe, predicted position 7th -  A nice varied squad, and i think the very original side used in the first version of this (long since lost i think). 

Sampdoria - Not in Europe, predicted position 11th - Think this would be a bit of a stretch in terms of squad quality and balance / versatility to be honest

Torino - Not in Europe, predicted position 8th - An interesting one, more balanced squad, some nice bits of quality if you can hold onto them 

 

Spain

Celta - Europa qualified, predicted position 8th - Another really interesting candidate, good quality and variety, in a very tough league 

Athletic - Europa qualified, predicted position 6th - My fave team to manage, but not sure how suitable to this. The basque limitation the obvious issue here, but a really varied starting squad 

Soceidad - Not in Europe, predicted position 10th - Possibly not quite a versatile enough squad, but an interesting team with a top half prediction

Valencia - Not in Europe, predicted position 5th - Probably the strongest starting squad on the list, good variety. Possibly "too strong" in terms of how we generally go for this challenge? 


Germany

Hertha - Europa qualified, predicted position 9th - Quite a versatile, yet not all that interesting seeming squad? 

Mainz - Europa qualified, predicted position 7th - Somewhat the Sassuolo of germany, small club but quite a big squad. Would be a big challenge, but an interesting back story again

Schalke - Europa qualified, predicted position 4th - Similar to Valencia, in that strong squad and arguably "too good"

Wolfsburg - Not in europe, predicted position 6th - A good sized and experienced squad with a spread of positions, and quite a large bank balance i think given the clubs backing 

 

I am sure we could add plenty others, but that is my attempt at a summary of the main contenders. My personaly choices would probably be Sassuolo, Celta or Wolfsburg. If pushed i would probably go for Sass, as Serie A is also one of my fave leagues for the tactical variety in opposing teams. 


TEAM SELECTED = SASSUOLO 

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How many people can participate?

I'm in, Celta would be my choice

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7 minutes ago, Fosse said:

How many people can participate?

1. Fosse - Celta Vigo (if they are indeed an option)

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youre banned you didn't read the OP ... everyone will be the same team :lol: 

I throw my hat in the ring unless there is an expected time frame for updates etc... I only get to play a few hours per week

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Just now, westy8chimp said:

youre banned you didn't read the OP ... everyone will be the same team :lol: 

I throw my hat in the ring unless there is an expected time frame for updates etc... I only get to play a few hours per week

I know, we've not decided on a team yet so they were my vote 

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No limit on how man can take part. I dont tend to do a full on vote for teams, as we want to decide fairly quickly, but i tend to go with a consensus of opinions in the thread. That or i just become a dictator and select one :D

 

There is no limit to the speed. There is no start and end point to this. People can join at any time, and it goes on as long as people want to keep posting updates. 


Post 2 updated with my view of the teams available. 

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I would choose to play as Mainz really, Spanish league tends to get boring imo.

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Sampdoria or Lazio would be my vote... lovely kits :cool:. Celta have a few stars but may be too favourable to certain tactics to get the best out of them.

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Awesome, would love to get in on this!

I'll obviously play with whatever team but Sassuolo looks the most interesting to me. Celta and Wolfsburg would be my top pick from the other leagues.

Let's pick a team and get started, can't wait to see what formation I get!

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I'd like to join this. Don't mind which team is picked, maybe avoid Bundesliga for the lack of licenses

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Good to see this back :thup:.

Count me in (although a little pushed for time atm).

Sassuolo or Fiorentina gets my vote.

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Like the idea, but i don't think i have the time to actually take part. But i'm following 4sho. <3

Cheers,
Bitner 

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I'd be happy with any of the leagues if I get in on this, but for the sake of expressing a preference I'd be biased towards Serie A. Lots of competition and, I would hope, tactical variety and it is less awash with money. I don't know if this sort of thing is 'encouraged' so I won't post the specifics, but those Italian clubs all have a very similar range of transfer funds and bank balances. Within +/-£5m for the transfer funds, £7m for the overall bank balance. There is a much greater variation in La Liga and the Bundesliga. If the intent is to showcase formations and to manage player resources, the equality in Serie A is appealing.

My favourite three would be:

1. Lazio

2. Sassuolo

3. Torino

I'd be happy to update a 'records' spreadsheet to highlight 1st season performance for sake of comparison; everyone's league record, golden boot and assisters list. Just a little stat sheet for added interest (highly dependant on everyone playing fairly!). If it helps to encourage players to post season reviews and that sort of thing, all the better.

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In!

Sassuolo or Mainz have my preference, but I'm good either way. I'm just hoping I end up with a semi-reasonable formation this year :rolleyes:

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I would like to get involved. 

I would prefer Serie A, for a bit of a change, but don't mind the club.

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I like the idea and will gladly join!

I find the following teams the most interesting : Hamburg SV & Lazio

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Ok so as predicted, a lot of varied opinions :D Serie A seems the fave so far, which i think is fair. We did Ligue 1 and la Liga before that, so back to Serie A. 

Sassuolo probably emerging as just the fave, with Lazio, Fiorentina and Samp all getting a couple of mentions. I am still scared by Fiorentina. The first running of this, we had them and i lost the league title in the 92min of the last game, by one goal on goal difference. 

Will make a final call in the morning, so post a few more views and i will start to assign tactics to everyone. 

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I'd be up for this - need something to get me back into FM properly.

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Post 3 updated with the full list of default formations in this years game. 


It seems like Sassoulo is going to be the way to go. Will look at confirming and allocating formations shortly

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I'd like to join, as well.

I don't have enough knowledge of clubs and competitions to have any preferences.

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Right time to start allocation formations thebn, now that we are settled on the team! 

@Fosse  - 4141 DM Asymetric AML 

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@westy8chimp - 4411 2 DM 

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@nightwalker22 - 3421 DM 

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@Jakob8b - 532 WB

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@waldywaldy - 4141 DM (NB - this one might fall into the "too common" category - Shout if you think so and we can redraw you)

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@Sanno11 - 523 Narrow

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@BadAss88 - 4222 DM Narrow

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@Bantamtim - 4411 (NB - again could be classed as "too common" - shout if you think so)

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Right, phew, sorry for the huge long posts - if the gif's showing the selection happening are too much, let me know :D 


That should be everyone allocated who has asked to be part of it so far - Hope i have not missed anyone! Shout if i have and of course for anyone else wanting to get involved, just leave your name here and i will allocate you a formation soon as i notice. 

As for my "draw"........ 4321 DM Narrow.......sheez. No idea what to do with that shape, which i suppose is exactly the point! It is not actually a 4321, but rather a 41221 narrow on the formation screen (Note to SI....your default tactic naming could probably be improved / simplified!). 

Will have a look now and a think and see what ideas i can come up with!

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Hmm, the one formation I was hoping to avoid was the 442 diamond and this is as close as it gets.

Just having a quick look over my test load, it is about the worst formation for Matteo Politano, and it is a big blow having Simone Missiroli injured in a midfield-heavy formation. Already having wild ideas of doing something funky with the '1' and using Matri's 18 off the ball attribute here. Timo Letschert could make for an interesting fullback here, as Gazzola and Lirola are underwhelming.

Early thoughts indicate this may be the XI heroes (roles not selected), but I'll set up properly later and maybe look to begin, running this alongside my Argentinos save.

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Is Berardi not out for months? Do i have an out of date DB or something? He starts as injured for 3 months when i loaded up a test save?

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I'm in! Just need to buy the game now

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Completely caught me off guard, both in term of team choice and formation-wise.

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Never tried a flat back five before. Would be an interesting one, some good talents in Sassuolo who can fit different roles.

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20 minutes ago, TacticsGuy said:

How do I upload screenshots or images on here?

There's a 'choose files' option just below the text box when you post. So:

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  • Locate it on your hard-drive, crop it in something like Paint if needed.
  • Select the file from your PC, upload it within your post.

Any images you upload will sit in bulk at the bottom of your post. If you set the cursor for where in your post you want the image to sit and then click on the '+' icon on the pic, it will drop it into the desired location.

The location of screenshots on your hard drive is a bit obscure. But if you right click on 'Football Manager 2017' within Steam, choose 'View Screenshots' and then 'Show on disk' it will take you to where they are stored on your PC.

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51 minutes ago, Jambo98 said:

Is Berardi not out for months? Do i have an out of date DB or something? He starts as injured for 3 months when i loaded up a test save?

He wasn't on my info load yesterday. But he now is on the game I've just set up. Jeez, talk about a kick in the teeth! I assume there's been a recent update, as I haven't changed any settings in that time?

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1 hour ago, TheJanitor said:

Completely caught me off guard, both in term of team choice and formation-wise.

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Never tried a flat back five before. Would be an interesting one, some good talents in Sassuolo who can fit different roles.

I had that last year, I found it quite frustrating because the wingback's starting position is quite deep and I struggled for width but that could just be a failure of mine :lol: 

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2 hours ago, Jambo98 said:

 

@Jakob8b - 532 WB

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Great, I'm normally not one for 3 (or 5) men defences, so this should be a nice challenge. Look forward to getting started!

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Nice, I've experimented recently with 3 defenders formations so I am looking forward to it.

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@westy8chimp - 4411 2 DM 

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haven't time to load a game with sass tonight.. but not a bad tactic .. already some ideas of how ill use it in my three slots ...lends itself quite nicely to a counter tactic ... and an attacking 'clear ball to flanks' strategy. hopefully there is some pace in the wide areas.

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I'll take a less common formation if possible. If I end up with 3 or 5 at the back I'm calling shenanigans on the draw though :D

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Yeah thats fair enough, i think 4141 is pretty commonly used.....so...

@waldywaldy - 4123 DM Narrow 

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