llama3 Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 FM13 Arsenal Thread – Victoria Concordia Crescit Welcome to the FM13 Arsenal Thread for the Good Player & Team Guide – if you are searching for the FM12 Arsenal thread then please click this link. Arsenal FC were formed in 1886 by workers from the Royal Arsenal in Woolwich, chiefly David Danskin. The club were originally known as Dial Square, before name changes to Royal Arsenal and Woolwich Arsenal, before a move north of the river into Islington and the ground at Highbury saw Arsenal take their modern name. The club wore red shirts donated by Nottingham Forest at the request of 2 former players – Fred Beardlsey & Morris Bates. Arsenal moved to Highbury in 1913, and after the First World War were promoted to the re-organised First Division controversially at the expense of Tottenham Hotspur, sparking the fierce local rivalry. Arsenal appointed Herbert Chapman as manager in 1925, leading the club to their first ever trophy – the FA Cup in 1930. Herbert Chapman was responsible for changing the local Underground Station from “Gillespie Road” to “Arsenal”, for the white sleeves on the red shirts, and the hooped socks, as well as tactically innovating the W-M formation. Arsenal enjoyed their most successful period in the 1930’s with several league titles. Arsenal became the first team in the world shown on TV in 1937 with BBC filming a practice game between the first and reserve sides. Arsenal and Chelsea were the first sides to pioneer the use of numbered shirts in matches too. Arsenal won the Fair’s Cup in 1970, before winning the Double in 1971, with Charlie George’s famous extra time winner over Liverpool in the FA Cup, before losing the Centenary Final a year later to Leeds. Arsenal won the 1979 FA Cup Final in the “5 minute final” over Manchester United, sandwiched by defeats to Ipswich in 1978 and West Ham in 1980, followed by Cup Winners Cup defeat to Valencia in Brussels. Arsenal took until George Graham’s appointment in 1986 – and instilling a sense of discipline rather unlike his own attitude as a player, when he was nicknamed “the Stroller” – before winning another trophy in 1987, with a 2-1 win over Liverpool at Wembley in the Littlewoods Cup Final; memorable for Charlie Nicholas’ brace as Arsenal became the first side to beat Liverpool in a game where Ian Rush scored first. Arsenal’s semi final against Tottenham was remarkable for coming from 2-0 down on aggregate to draw 2-2 (after the Spurs Stadium announcer was revealing how Spurs fans could get their tickets for the final at half time!) – before a replay at White Hart Lane saw Arsenal come from behind against with David Rocastle’s late winner. Arsenal won the league at Anfield in 1989 with virtually the last kick of the season by Michael Thomas to snatch the title away from Liverpool to win 2-0 in a truly memorable night, a mere 6 weeks after the Hillsborough disaster. Arsenal won the league in 1991 again, before FA Cup and League Cup success in 1993 over Sheffield Wednesday, before winning the Cup Winners Cup in Copenhagen with a narrow 1-0 win over Parma. Arsenal lost the final the following year to a lobbed goal by Nayim in the dying seconds of extra time. George Graham was sacked in February 1995 following “bung” allegations, and replaced by Bruce Rioch, who was dismissed in August 1996. Arsene Wenger took over in September 1996, and began revolutionising Arsenal and English football with his training methods and dietary regimes, leading Arsenal to the Double in 1998, and again in 2002. Arsenal won the FA Cup again in 2003, before going the entire league season unbeaten in 2004. Arsenal’s last major trophy was the 2005 FA Cup, winning on penalties against Manchester United with Patrick Vieira scoring the winning penalty in his last act for the club. Club Honours English Premier League – Winners (13) – most recently in 2004, when the team went the entire league season unbeaten, dubbed “The Invincibles”. English FA Cup – Winners (10) – most recently in 2005, a very fortunate win on penalties over Manchester United who were significantly better on the day. The FA Cup remains Arsenal’s most recent trophy to date. Arsenal are the 2nd most successful side in FA Cup history, behind Manchester United’s 11 wins. English League Cup – Winners (2) – Won in 1987 and 1993 under George Graham. Runners Up in 2007 to Chelsea, and in 2011 to Birmingham City in a bizarre injury-time mix-up which caused a spiral of defeats and poor form. English Community Shield – Winners (12) – most recently in 2004, beating Manchester United 3-1 in Cardiff. UEFA Cup – Winners (1) – Won in 1970 as the Fair’s Cup with a 2-legged victory over Anderlecht, winning 3-0 at Highbury to clinch the trophy. Lost in the 2000 final in Copenhagen to Galatasaray on penalties. Cup Winners Cup – Winners (1) – Won in 1994 with an amazing defensive shut-out in Copenhagen against a superb Parma side boasting Asprilla, Zola & Brolin in attack. Alan Smith’s first half goal was enough for Arsenal to hold on and win 1-0 with key striker Ian Wright suspended. Arsenal were Runners Up a year later in Paris, where they were beaten by Nayim’s 50 yard lob in the dying seconds of extra time in the final against Real Zaragoza. Arsenal also lost on penalties to Valencia in Brussels in 1980 after a goalless draw. UEFA Champions League – Runners Up in 2006, having gone 995 minutes with conceding a goal (a competition record) Arsenal had Jens Lehmann sent off early, before Sol Campbell headed Arsenal into an unlikely lead against Barcelona, before 2 late goals from Eto’o & Belletti broke Arsenal’s hearts in Paris. UEFA Super Cup – Arsenal’s only history in this competition remains the 1994 tie against Milan, which AC Milan won over 2 legs. 2011-12 Season Review: Having lost Gael Clichy, Cesc Fabregas, Samir Nasri & Emmanuel Eboue in the summer, Arsenal took 1 point from their opening 3 games, including a humiliating 8-2 defeat to Manchester United at Old Trafford. Arsenal made some late signings to the squad including Park Chu-Young, Mikel Arteta, Yossi Benayoun (loan), Andre Santos & Per Mertesacker to add to fellow new recruits Gervinho, Carl Jenkinson & Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain. Arsenal began to make steady progress and reached the League Cup Quater Final, narrowly losing to a late Man City goal. Arsenal re-signing Thierry Henry on loan in January for 6 weeks to help reduce to burden on prolific forward Robin van Persie (traitor). Arsenal were eventually defeated 4-3 on aggregate against AC Milan, after an epic 2nd leg at the Emirates. Arsenal also turned their season around with a stunning comeback in a 5-2 win at the Emirates against Tottenham Hotspur (Gareth Bale is a dirty diver). This was followed up with a fortunate win at Anfield, before superb wins against Newcastle, Everton & eventual Champions Man City put Arsenal ahead of Tottenham. A late stumble was arrested on the final day, when Arsenal’s win at West Brom (thanks Marton Fulop!) ensured Arsenal finished in the Champions League places, and Spurs had to be content with a place in the Thursday Night Cup! Club Information Formed – 1886 Status - Professional Nickname – The Gunners Chairman Status – Loves the club Legends – Patrick Vieira, Thierry Henry, Ian Wright, Tony Adams, Dennis Bergkamp, Cliff Bastin, Bob Wilson, Arsene Wenger, Herbert Chapman Icons – Ken Friar, David Rocastle, Lee Dixon, Martin Keown, Steve Bould, Robert Pires, David Seaman, Nigel Winterburn, Ray Parlour, Liam Brady, Paul Merson, Pat Rice, Charlie George, Marc Overmars, David O’Leary, John Radford, Michael Thomas, Alex James, Frank McLintock, Charlie Nicholas, David Jack, Ted Drake, George Graham, Fredrik Ljungberg & Pat Jennings Favoured Personnel – Cesc Fabregas Derbies – North London Derby (vs Tottenham Hotspur) Fierce Rivals – Tottenham, Man Utd & Chelsea Other Rivals – Liverpool & West Ham Finances – Rich Average Ticket Price - £48 Average Season Ticket Price - £1,390 Season Ticket Holders – 40,000 Estimated Value - £780m (loan debt £394m) Continental Competition – Champions League Media Prediction – 4th Squad Personality – Ambitious Captain – Thomas Vermaelen Vice-Captain – Mikel Arteta The board will offer you a Transfer Budget of £30m, with a wage budget of £1.48m (a current excess of £140k per week). Squad Analysis Captain – Thomas Vermaelen (5) Thomas Vermaelen joined Arsenal in a £10m deal from Ajax in the Summer of 2009. He is a brave and determined character and has been appointed Captain due to the departure of Robin van Persie to Manchester United. Vermaelen is known for contributing goals at the other end of the pitch too, and enjoys a foray forward to help the attack. He is fairly reliable and strong in the air. Vice-Captain – Mikel Arteta (8) Mikel Arteta joined Arsenal on deadline day in August 2011 in the aftermath of Arsenals 8-2 defeat to Manchester United at Old Trafford. Arteta plays a far more disciplined role than he was used to at Everton, and is somewhat a “pass master” linking play and holding a deeper position. He is extremely consistent and professional, as well as being a very intelligent player. He is 1 of the older heads in the Arsenal team, but an extremely valuable player. 1 Wojciech SZCZESNY 2 Abou DIABY 3 Bacary SAGNA 4 Per MERTESACKER 5 Thomas VERMAELEN (Captain) 6 Laurent KOSCIELNY 7 Tomas ROSICKY 8 Mikel ARTETA (Vice Captain) 9 Lukas PODOLSKI 10 Jack WILSHERE 11 Andre SANTOS (on loan at Gremio) 12 Olivier GIROUD 14 Theo WALCOTT 15 Alex OXLADE-CHAMBERLAIN 16 Aaron RAMSEY 17 Nacho MONREAL 18 Sebastien SQUILLACI 19 Santi CAZORLA 20 Johan DJOUROU (on loan at Hannover 96) 21 Lukasz FABIANSKI 22 Francis COQUELIN 23 Andrey ARSHAVIN 24 Vito MANNONE 25 Carl JENKINSON 26 Emmanuel FRIMPONG (on loan at Fulham) 27 GERVINHO Yao Kouassi 28 Kieran GIBBS 29 Marouane CHAMAKH (on loan at West Ham United) 30 PARK Chu-Young (on loan at Celta Vigo) 31 RYO Miyaichi (on loan at Wigan Athletic) 52 Nicklas BENDTNER (on loan at Juventus) Goalkeepers Wojciech Szczesny has emerged as first choice, and is an excellent choice in goal for the next 10 years – he is commanding and a good shot-stopper. Lukasz Fabianski is an excellent reserve, and his main strengths lay in his shot-stopping ability and distribution. Vito Mannone is a solid third choice, and has good distribution, but can lack intelligence. Young prospects for this position are limited to Argentine stopper Damian Martinez, but the other young goalkeepers (James Shea, Reice Charles-Cook, Dejan Iliev & Josh Vickers) are unlikely to make it at Arsenal. Right Back Bacary Sagna is first choice at right back, and has been a loyal and consistently excellent player for 5 years now. He begins the season still recovering from his 2nd broken leg in 7 months and as such his deputy is Carl Jenkinson, who despite looking very ordinary, is surprisingly very reliable and is extremely hard working, and worth giving some match experience to. Francis Coquelin can play here adequately well, and Johan Djourou has filled in here with limited success too. Youngsters for this position include Hector Bellerin, Nico Yennaris and Craig Eastmond who are reasonable, and the unproven Alfred Mugabo. Left Back The left back slot is up for grabs – the contenders are Kieran Gibbs and Nacho Monreal. Kieran Gibbs is a quick & energetic left back, with some work to do improving the defensive side of his game. Monreal is mobile, has a good final ball and defensively more sound than Gibbs. Andre Santos is superb going forward, but not especially hard-working or determined and is out on loan. Thomas Vermaelen can play comfortably at left back. Young prospects in this position are limited. Martin Angha looks the best young player, but he is more comfortable at centre-back. Samir Bihmoutine & Jernade Meade will not meet the required standards, and Arinse Uade & Brandon Ormonde-Ottewill are unlikely to either, but should be given a chance to impress in the academy side. Centre Back There appears to be a “2 from 3” scenario in the centre of defence. Captain Thomas Vermaelen is a great leader, aggressive, and has a penchant for scoring goals. Laurent Koscielny has recently signed a 5 year deal on the back of an impressive campaign, who is an intelligent and mobile defender. Per Mertesacker is the final of the trio and while slow, is very strong and extremely intelligent, and should not be underestimated. Johan Djourou is out on loan, and Sebastien Squillaci is still at the club, and not the worst player to have around should you need extra cover at the back. Ignasi Miquel is a talented young prospect. Martin Angha looks like he could be a good player given the right training and loan spells. Elton Monteiro, Zac Fagan & Isaac Hayden have little future at Arsenal, and Leander Siemann and Tommy Dallison are rather unknown talents. Defensive Midfield Since the sale of Alex Song, there are limited options in the holding midfield position. Mikel Arteta can perform the role very well, but in a Deep-Lying Playmaker category. Francis Coquelin is a mobile and intelligent young midfielder and a top prospect. Emmanuel Frimpong is a more aggressive and a rather more limited player, currently out on loan. Craig Eastmond and Nico Yennaris are the better prospects for this position. Glen Kamara’s potential is unknown & Jordan Wynter will have no future at Arsenal. Central Midfield Mikel Arteta is an obvious candidate to play in central midfield. Arsenal are also blessed with the powerful Abou Diaby, the creative & hard working Aaron Ramsey, experienced Czech playmaker Tomas Rosicky (who is injured until October), and finally Jack Wilshere is returning from injury and can play an important role running your midfield. Arsenal have plenty of talented young prospects in this area of the pitch – Kyle Ebecilio (energetic midfielder), Chuks Aneke (powerful and rangy midfielder), Josh Rees (intelligent player), Jon Toral (energetic & good technique), Conor Henderson (intelligent player) – with Ebecilio and Toral the best 2 prospects. Attacking Midfield In the Attacking Midfield position is Arsenal’s best player – Santi Cazorla a £16m signing from Malaga in the summer. Cazorla is intelligent and technically outstanding. The mercurial Andrey Arshavin is a worthwhile back-up in the position, and while he has questionable work rate, he is extremely creative still. Jack Wilshere, Tomas Rosicky, Abou Diaby & Aaron Ramsey can all play this position very well, giving you plenty of options. Serge Gnabry is a young, promising talent that is worth investing the time developing. Kristoffer Olsson is a talented playmaker & Samuel Galindo is out on loan. Unknown Jack Jebb completes the roster of midfielders. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain is also an option for this position, and his direct nature could offer a very different option to Cazorla’s creativity. Right Flank Arsenal’s options on the right flank include pacy Winger-cum-Striker Theo Walcott, with the more tricky Gervinho an alternative. Alex-Oxlade Chamberlain is a very talented option and should be given plenty of time to play and develop. Cazorla and Arshavin are capable of playing anywhere across the advanced midfield roles. Serge Gnabry can also play on this flank, and the young players here are Sanchez Watt (who has no future at Arsenal), Anthony Jeffrey, Tarum Dawkins & Alex Iwobi. Left Flank Arsenal’s left flank options are Gervinho, Oxlade-Chamberlain and German international Lukas Podolski. The pacy German has an excellent eye for goal. Arshavin and Cazorla again, can both play out on the left flank too. Young prospect Zak Ansah does not have the talent to succeed at Arsenal, but Anthony Jeffrey is a decent prospect. On-loan Ryo Miyaichi is an interesting prospect. Strikers Olivier Giroud is Arsenal’s new £12m signing from French Champions Montpellier. He is a powerful Target Man, with a superb shot and is strong in the air. Podolski is a good option up front, and Theo Walcott is pushing for a striking berth, but lacks the link-play for a lone striker role. Gervinho is capable of playing as the central striker and offers a very different kind of option with some excellent dribbling and pace, but lacks composure. Young talents are the on-loan Wellington Silva, Joel Campbell & Benik Afobe. Marouane Chamakh, Park Chu-Young and Nicklas Bendtner are out on loan. Tactical Analysis – Arsenal are instructed to play “attacking football”, “possession football” and “develop players from the club’s youth system” – with the tactical instructions in mind, and the players available here are some recommendations: Formations – Arsenal are suited to a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-5-1 formation. They are also capable of playing 4-3-3, 4-4-2 & 4-1-2-1-2 formations as well. Playing Style - Considering the instructions for possession football, a short passing style is also recommended. The more appropriate Philosophies to use are Balanced or Fluid to ensure a decent shape to encourage the possession game, as well as allowing the freedom in attack needed for an attacking game. Recommended Player Roles – You have the capability of using a stopper/cover or defend-defend in the backline. Central Defenders are more suited to playing a possession style of football. Several of the central midfielders suit an “Advanced Playmaker” role, and you have quick wide players who suit the roles of “Winger” and “Inside Forward” very well. In attack Giroud & Chamakh are excellent as a “Target Man” whereas Podolski is more suited to leading the line as a “Poacher” or “Complete Forward” Recommended First XI – Szczesny Sagna – Mertesacker – Vermaelen - Gibbs Arteta Cazorla – Wilshere Walcott - Podolski Giroud Staff Analysis Steve Bould is new assistant manager. Team’s coaching staff is generally of good quality, although could do with a new fitness coach and an extra first team coach. Physio department is well-stocked for all teams, with Colin Lewin Head Physio. Steve Rowley is Head Scout, and Francis Cagigao & Gilles Grimandi particularly good scouts in a good department. Team Colours Club Facilities Stadium – Emirates Stadium City – London Stadium Capacity – 60,361 Year Built – 2006 Owned by – Arsenal Stadium Condition – Very Good Under Soil Heating – Yes Roof – No Surface – Grass Pitch Dimensions – 104x67m Maximum Dimension – 109x71m Pitch Condition – Perfect Training Facilities – Top Training Facilities Youth Facilities – Top Youth Facilities Youth Setup Category – 1 Reserve Stadium – Underhill, London Youth Stadium – London Colney, St. Albans Training Ground – London Colney, St. Albans Corporate Facilities – Top Corporate Facilities Junior Coaching – Good Junior Coaching Youth Recruitment – Well Established Youth Recruitment Final Word Arsenal have sold Alex Song & Robin van Persie in the close season to Barcelona and Man United respectively, and signed Lukas Podolski, Santi Cazorla and Olivier Giroud to replace them. With the club trophyless for 7 years, your task is to win something, whilst also adhering to the boards instructions to “play possession football”, “play attacking football” and “develop players using the clubs youth system”. Victoria Concordia Crescit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rubentus_Juventus Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Lukas Podolski on the left would be pretty dodgy wouldn't it? Dribbling of 12 isn't too good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted October 20, 2012 Author Share Posted October 20, 2012 12 is perfectly adequate, his strengths lie elsewhere, and are equally valuable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubentus_Juventus Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Yeah interested to see how people go with him (when used out wide) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Jesus christ. I thought I was going to be eaten alive when the club badge popped up!!! Nice thread dude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champfan10 Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I've just finished my first season as Arsenal and I found 4-2-3-1 was the best formation to suit the players, but not with wingers:- Here you can see how its been more successful than the other tactics I've tried:- I did only finish 6th however, but was in a very lowly 11th until I switched to this formation for my final 11 games winning 7, drawing 2 and losing 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I like that formation above , but can podolski ,walcott , gervinho and so on play in more central roles you have above? cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenalthebest Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 i'm playing with a 4-2-2-2(wide) formation i'm considering 4-1-3-2(deep) formation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champfan10 Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I like that formation above , but can podolski ,walcott , gervinho and so on play in more central roles you have above?cheers I've sold Gervinho, Podolski can as one of the inside forwards and Walcott would need to be trained, he played up front as the poacher for me when I rested Giroud and did well. He is a natural striker on FM13 don't forget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 cool I may sell Walcott though I can 19m for him at the start from Chelsea, also anyone wondering , carl jenkinson has been improved on fm13 , he has been very soild for me and been namned player of the month and been included in team of the week 2 times on the spin! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champfan10 Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 cool I may sell Walcott though I can 19m for him at the start from Chelsea, also anyone wondering , carl jenkinson has been improved on fm13 , he has been very soild for me and beennamned player of the month and been included in team of the week 2 times on the spin! I was tempted when they came knocking but I was using him out wide at that point! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I was tempted when they came knocking but I was using him out wide at that point! yeah same , Im going to restart soon anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehanson Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Good thread, will probably give Arsenal a go at some point. But, Arsenal didn't sell RVP to City (last paragraph) but to Utd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted October 20, 2012 Author Share Posted October 20, 2012 Good thread, will probably give Arsenal a go at some point. But, Arsenal didn't sell RVP to City (last paragraph) but to Utd. embarrassing error from me there - fixed now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehanson Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 embarrassing error from me there - fixed now It's all good. Got a bit bogged down in my save I have got going on (think there are a few too many errors at the moment to make a long term save enjoyable) so going to start a new game with Arsenal. Going to want to buy a more defensive minded central midfielder though. Thinking of Fellaini at the moment, but not sure how much he will set me back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean3h Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 It's all good. Got a bit bogged down in my save I have got going on (think there are a few too many errors at the moment to make a long term save enjoyable) so going to start a new game with Arsenal.Going to want to buy a more defensive minded central midfielder though. Thinking of Fellaini at the moment, but not sure how much he will set me back. In my game I managed to get Cabaye for £20m which was nice. Obviously he's not a super defensive player, but has tackling of 14 iirc which isn't shabby at all. The main thing I am struggling with is getting a formation to work. Regardless of which formation I try (I've tried over a few different saves) I ship goals left right and center. Anybody got any tips? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
london boy Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I would play Podolski as a striker, he's always guaranteed lots of goals for me in past versions of FM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalumF Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Wanting to play Arsenal with a 4231 formation with Arteta playing as a deep lying playmaker. My problem with the squad is that it is lacking a really good midfield ball winner. I can see problems with Arteta next to a Diaby, Ramsey or Wilshere, especially away from home were you need someone in the middle of the park to win tackles and can use their strength and stamina. Signing is needed in this position for the team to succeed for me. Thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trollie Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 on my arsenal game i always rush demba ba, sell a multitude of players including walcott for 20m to chelsea, then purchase mario gotze for 24m, isco and jovetic for 17m each. game then got too easy lol. best DM you can get at the start is mvilla for 17m or capoue for 14m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebeard Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I played relatively true to life and signed M'Vila for £18m (c. 14m over 48 months). Now trying to sign a new left back and thinking of getting Criscito. I've also signed Dzagoev as he's bargainous (i.e. free). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Nice thread!, Just started an Arsenal save, transfers are as follows In - Andre Ayew (15.75mil) Jelle Vossen (4mil) Ruben Yttergard Jenssen (4mil) Victor Wanyama (8.5mil) Jonas Svensson (1.3mil) Leonard Kweuke (3.2mil) Yohan Cabaye (5mil + Mertersacker) Vegard Forren (4.8mil) Herman Stengel (35k) Etienne Capoue (13mil) Harry Maguire (Joins end of season for 3mil) Wilfried Bony (13mil) Out - Sebastien Squillaci (1.4mil) Andrey Arshavin (6.5mil) Andre Santos (8.75mil) Per Mertesacker (P/EX) Abou Diaby (loan with fee to buy) Marouane Chamakh (loan with fee to buy) Francis) Coquelin (loan) Johan Djourou (loan with fee to buy) Several other reserve/youth members loaned out. First team for me is - Szczesny Sagna Koscielny Vermaelen Gibbs Arteta Cabaye Cazorla Gervinho Podolski/Ayew Giroud 16.59Million remains in the transfer budget as well as around 60k in wages, i still feel i need possibly a left back, Centre back and a goalkeeper though Gibbs/Forren/Verminator should be more enough for left back duties for now i guess, id rather have dick and dom in goal than those two error prone stooges (Mannone/Fabianski) so i tried and succeeded in unsettling Marc-Andrew ter Stegen, but gladbach insist on raising the transfer fee each time i bid for him, initially they wanted 18mil, then 20mil now 25mil so i might have to look elsewhere while he sits on the transfer list extremely unhappy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenalthebest Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 2012/13 Season Preview formations: : 4-2-2-2(wide) http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=103800589 4-1-3-2 (with a dm and 3 am's)http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=103800176 Transfer: Out: Podolski- Man City/£18m Walcott-Man City/£16.5m Squillaci- Celtic/£1.3m In Lewandowski-dortmund-£22m Chris Wood-west Brom-3.4m Loans Out Eisfeld-Wycombe Akpom-Preston Gnarby-Mk Dons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llew_Arshavin23 Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Started an Arsenal save on the FM13 beta version. Must admit, I'm really excited for the complete version. Can't help but think that a few players - Carl Jenkinson, Damián Martínez and Nico Yennaris in particular - have been underrated. That's an argument for another thread, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEinchy Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Bare in mind that their attributes would have been based on last season's form, not this season's. I don't think anyone foresaw Jenkinson improving as much as he has. I haven't got the beta version of the game, so would anyone mind telling me how players like Thomas Eisfeld, Serge Gnabry, Kris Olsson, Jon Toral and Chuba Akpom are rated? Are they actually worth developing this year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Bare in mind that their attributes would have been based on last season's form, not this season's. I don't think anyone foresaw Jenkinson improving as much as he has. I haven't got the beta version of the game, so would anyone mind telling me how players like Thomas Eisfeld, Serge Gnabry, Kris Olsson, Jon Toral and Chuba Akpom are rated? Are they actually worth developing this year? A quick look through them and none look particularly promising, unless their stats change drastically in 1-2 years i cant see any of them worth keeping on my own save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Beckham Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Why did you spend 34m on Chris Wood, seems a ridiculous amount to spend on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_R.U.F.C Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Serge Gnabry will become good if he is tutored properly and gets enough game time. Guessing he would be best as an AM? I will use him there, get someone to tutor him and see how he does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiwyum Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Are you guys buying high passing ability players to recreate the Arsenal style? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llew_Arshavin23 Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Are you guys buying high passing ability players to recreate the Arsenal style? That'd be a good start. Although, players' passing attributes aren't the only thing which contribute to replicating a similar style of play to The Arsenal. Creativity, Composure, First Touch, Off The Ball movement & Decisions all help when trying to recruit a player who'd fit well into the Arsenal type of play. You, probably, have to make sure he's fully equipped to keep up with the pace of the Premier League game, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suggy33 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Just started my Arsenal save. Wanted to go for youth as always, but many targets are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy over-priced. Have managed to wrangle a few deals though, despite maybe paying over the odds for a couple of them. Whilst tactically, in pre-season, I was having the most success with this formation: But it sucks in the league, 2 losses from 2, against Soton and ManCity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 Wanting to play Arsenal with a 4231 formation with Arteta playing as a deep lying playmaker. My problem with the squad is that it is lacking a really good midfield ball winner. I can see problems with Arteta next to a Diaby, Ramsey or Wilshere, especially away from home were you need someone in the middle of the park to win tackles and can use their strength and stamina. Signing is needed in this position for the team to succeed for me. Thoughts? diaby IS strong and has good stamina - Arteta is not bad defensively too - wilshere is intelligent and aggressive as well - add in coquelin and i have had no problems at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llew_Arshavin23 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I'm still in pre-season. Heading towards the final games of our pre-organised tour of North America. It's going okay. I've yet to win, but the standard of play is quite good. Can definitely see the improvements in FM13's match engine. Moving onto transfers, I've managed to bring in VFl Bochum's Leon Goretzka - who I noticed Suggy's bought too - on a three-week trial period. Hopefully, a deal can be concluded soon. Outgoings: I've resisted a £19.5 million bid for Theo Walcott from Chelsea, while Chuks Aneke's gone out on loan to Charlton. Enjoying FM13 so far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 suggy your team looks like 2 broken halves! You are playing with 5 attackers! No wonder it sucks in the league! Try playing some central midfielders, or at the very least, get your anchorman to play a more expansive game mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenalthebest Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 suggy your team looks like 2 broken halves! You are playing with 5 attackers! No wonder it sucks in the league! Try playing some central midfielders, or at the very least, get your anchorman to play a more expansive game mate. i playing wth a very similar formation to suggy but with a striker replacing one of he amc's and the 2 wbs pushed back I have 6 wins from 6 games GK: Szczesny-GK-D RB: Jenkinson WB--S CB Vermaelen CD-d CB- Mertersacker LE-D LB Gibbs FB-D AML Gervingo W-A AMC- Carzorla T-A AMR Arteta AP-A ST Giroud TM-A ST Lewandowski DLP -A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Started an Arsenal save on the FM13 beta version. Must admit, I'm really excited for the complete version.Can't help but think that a few players - Carl Jenkinson, Damián Martínez and Nico Yennaris in particular - have been underrated. That's an argument for another thread, though. Not sure about Carl Jenkinson being underrated he is playing great on my save , although improvments are needed on the fm13 ME , at times the defence is non existent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenalthebest Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Not sure about Carl Jenkinson being underrated he is playing great on my save , although improvments are needed on the fm13 ME , at times the defence is non existent.k agree somtimes defenders/keeper just stand watch the oppo get the ball though they EASILY would of got there first Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 Carl Jenkinson's average attribute score for a Wing Back Support role is 14 - Bacary Sagna's is 15 - he isn't that far from Sagna really. He has a superb combination of Determination, Teamwork, Work Rate & Stamina - this makes him unbelievably consistent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nik_m Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Haven't got the game yet, but I'm thinking of playing a narrow 4-1-2-1-2 formation with someone like m'vila as DM, Wilshere and Arteta as CM's, Cazorla AMC and Podolski and Giroud up front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 you could try Arteta at DM, Wilshere & Diaby/Rosicky/Ramsey at MC and Cazorla at AMC? Gervinho and Walcott could be used in attack with a 4-1-2-1-2 narrow system too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernGooner Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I think we could do with another Striker at the club, playing Podolski out left, and with Giroud upfront, the other striker that is on my bench is Chamakh, I was thinking of Ba, worth his £7 million release clause? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugster Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Started as Arsenal and am really enjoying the game as a whole tbh. Of course there are some issues I would expect to be fixed by the time the full version is released. Transfers In's Demba Ba - €8 million Alan Dzagoev - €2.6 million Aymen Abdennour - €12.75 million Michael Gregitsch - €2.3 million Out's Andrey Arshavin - €5 million Seb Squallaci - €675k Per Mertesaker - €10.75 million Chamackh - Loan There are heaps of other loans for younger players of course. I play a 4-2-3-1 GK: Chesney DR: Sagna DC: Koscielny DC: Vermalen DL: Gibbs MC: Diaby MC: Arteta AMR: Theo AMC; Cazorla AML: Podolski ST: Giroud Podolski picked up and injury for about 6 weeks, his replacement has been The Ox who has done well so far. Results Premiership Arsenal 4 - 2 Reading Fulham 2 -2 Arsenal (We scored 2 goals in the last minute to rescue a point in this one after a poor display) Arsenal 1 - 1 Newcastle (We conceded a late goal here to throw away 2 points) Arsenal 3 - 2 Chelsea (Went up 3 nil and conceded 2 sloppy goals but held on for the win) Aston Villa 1 - 2 Arsenal Champions League Shakhtar 1 - 3 Arsenal Player Performances/Impressions Podolski playing on the left was extremely good although he got injured after 3 games, but managed to score 4 goals in those 3 games Giroud looks a decent striker, grabbed 2 nice goals against Shakhtar and a winner against Villa. Demba Ba hasn't been amazing just yet but still he scored a vital goal against Chelsea. Theo Walcott playing as a winger has been superb in the games he's played. Chesney has also been excellent, better than he should have to be. Jenkinson, Diaby, The Ox and Koscielny are the only others that have impressed me, the rest have been quite meh so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean3h Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Why have people been selling Mertesacker? Too slow? I am bringing in Aldeweireld but am looking to sell Djourou (never really use him) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 I think Mertesacker is outstanding. His average attributes rating for a Central Defender is higher than Vermaelen and Koscielny's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugster Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 That's why I sold him anyway. I didn't intend to sell him but I played him in one pre-season game and he was awful, his pace really exposed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Finished my pre-season friendlies, it was a mixed bag 3-0(away) win V FC Vaslui 3-0(away) loss V Lokomotiv moscow 3-1(away) win V AC Arles-Avignon 4-2(away) win V Cowdenbeath 3-0(away) win v Portsmouth Not sure what was going wrong in the Moscow match, hostile crowd and lots of new players into the team at a guess. First 3 games of the season 0-0(Home) draw V Tottenham 3-2(Away) win V Wigan 4-4(Home) draw V Fulham All 3 games so far ive struggled in keeping possession of the ball finishing the games with an average of 40percent-60percent(opponent) ratio, the fulham game was pretty amazing for a few reasons, was 1-0 down after 15mins, then 3-1 up at halftime, cazorla was sent off just before half time(straight red), they came out second half and equalised, started to think we was going to concede some more but managed to get a goal from a corner, they equalised in the 90th minute though through berbatov sadly. noticed a few issues with the match engine too, giroud struck a powerful shot against the post but instead of the ball rebounding/flying off in any direction it just stopped dead on the spot, and also a shot that resulted in a goal went across the goal line then out through the net, though this is a known issue. The worst thing ive seen so far is my right back pass the ball back under no pressure to the goalkeeper for it to just go through the goalkeeper into the goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 report those as bugs, but it is only a beta version, so there are going to be bugs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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