football_master_94 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Quite optimistic to assume someone will buy Carroll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 thats whats gonna have to happen now with no CL. transfers are gonna have to be subsidised by selling players. carroll ok, for the money and the wages has no future but can we sell downing when he's been better than everyone else in the wide positions this season? it could be a big ask to expect sterling, borini, suso and coutinho to be able to step up atm as currently theyre not good enough, be it just crap or not ready yet doesnt really matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Despite Downings purple patch, he still isn't getting assists or scoring. He's useless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherlover Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 What I'm confused at is your policy of big money outlays on 2-3 promising talents when proven world-class talent is available for, what, 75% of the same outlay? I suppose at least Liverpool FC are going to prove decisively whether or not Moneyball can be applied to football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 I suppose at least Liverpool FC are going to prove decisively whether or not Moneyball can be applied to football. What utter, utter nonsense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted February 16, 2013 Author Share Posted February 16, 2013 We have a £37m net outlay on transfers, but around a £25m net saving on wages. There should be cash floating around the balance sheet to play with tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knapp... Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 bet we've spent a load on sorting new contracts out though tbh. of the top of my head kelly, agger, shelvey, sterling, wisdom, skrtel, gerrard, suarez, suso (any more?) have all signed new long term deals in the last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Hoping for a rather postivite ending to a **** week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 so a clean sheet and 1 point then? just reading the gossip for tomorrow and apparently we're going for al habsi cos we cant afford begovic and ashley williams in the summer while getting rid of pepe, skrtel, downing, henderson and enrique.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 just reading the gossip for tomorrow and apparently we're going for al habsi cos we cant afford begovic and ashley williams in the summer while getting rid of pepe, skrtel, downing, henderson and enrique.. Why do people bother posting this rubbish? Better the thread has no posts in it that your latest gossip column. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Why would we even get rid of Enrique? He's a beast Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Would be mega pissed if we sold Skrtel and replaced him with Williams ffs. Henderson has shown he has potential under Rodgers so I'd be keeping him. Plus the fact we would be lucky to get 10m for him. Rest can go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 We have a £37m net outlay on transfers, but around a £25m net saving on wages. There should be cash floating around the balance sheet to play with tbh. Any figures confirmed for this £25mill saving on wages? We have moved a few on, but we have also improved a few contracts as well so I would be surprised if the reduction in wages was as high as £25mill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 We should sign Gylfi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 Any figures confirmed for this £25mill saving on wages? We have moved a few on, but we have also improved a few contracts as well so I would be surprised if the reduction in wages was as high as £25mill. It's been widely reported tbh. As recently as November. Sure we have given out some contracts since then (Sterling springs to mind) and signed a couple of players, but we have also shipped a couple of players out. So it's not some outlandish claim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Admission to Under-21 fixtures played at The Hawthorns this season is £5 adults and £1 concessions. What does concessions refer to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlater Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 It's been widely reported tbh.As recently as November. Sure we have given out some contracts since then (Sterling springs to mind) and signed a couple of players, but we have also shipped a couple of players out. So it's not some outlandish claim. Absolutely no way has it reduced by £25m imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Cole was on £100k per week, Kuyt £85k, Maxi 75k, even Doni was on 50k. I imagine West Ham are paying most, if not all of Carroll's wages. Then you need to add in Aquilani, Bellamy and Adam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Aquilani - 90k Kuyt - 90k Cole - 100k Bellamy- 90k Maxi Rodriguez - 80k Doni - 50k Adam - 60k Aurelio - 30k Total 590k per week saved 590 x 52 (weeks in a year) = £30.7 million Then previous summer Jovanovic - 90k Poulsen - 50k Konchesky -40k Insua - 15k Kyrgiakos - 35k Meireles - 35k Total £265k a week £13.8m a year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperclips Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Not sure how accurate them wages are. Bellamy - 90k Maxi - 80K Adam - 60K Doni - 50K Jovanovic - 90k Konchesky - 40K Kyrgiakos - 35K Would expect them to be less than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I think Adam was only on about £40k per week. The rest aren't far off though. Jovanovic was on £60k per week but was also being paid his signing on fee in weekly installments on top, hence the £90k figure. Disgrace really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperclips Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 So he went from being on 90K a week with us to being on about 15-20K a week with Anderlecht. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Nah, I think we had/have to continue paying most of his wages for two years! Yay! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Find it hard to believe Bellamy was on 90k a week. Also interesting stat, BR has spent the most net spend of any manager during Liverpools time in the Premiership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falahk Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Not sure how accurate them wages are.Bellamy - 90k Maxi - 80K Adam - 60K Doni - 50K Jovanovic - 90k Konchesky - 40K Kyrgiakos - 35K Would expect them to be less than that. Doni at 50k sounds about right since you basically picked up the contract he had with us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperclips Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Find it hard to believe Bellamy was on 90k a week.Also interesting stat, BR has spent the most net spend of any manager during Liverpools time in the Premiership. More to do with the fact the players we have got rid of have gone cheap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Reina, Johnson, Carragher, Agger, Enrique, Lucas, Gerrard, Henderson, Coutinho, Suarez, Sturridge. Is the rumoured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Find it hard to believe Bellamy was on 90k a week.Also interesting stat, BR has spent the most net spend of any manager during Liverpools time in the Premiership. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/31/craig-bellamy-liverpool-medical-wales It's pretty common knowledge since he needs to pay for his football camp in Africa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Jovanovic 90k Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett.spurs Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Unless Henderson, Downing, Enrique, Borini, Allen, Sturridge and Coutinho are playing for free, along with other pay rises, then I'm not sure how you've cut £25m off the wage bill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlater Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Unless Henderson, Downing, Enrique, Borini, Allen, Sturridge and Coutinho are playing for free, along with other pay rises, then I'm not sure how you've cut £25m off the wage bill. Pretty much this. Very nice saying whos left without accounting for incoming and lots of new deals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 Probably still paying the last 3 managers too. We gave Rafa a 5 year contract, then sacked him 1 year for instance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 Pretty much this. Very nice saying whos left without accounting for incoming and lots of new deals Much of the new signings are significantly smaller deals. Suarez was only earning £40k a week, until his new deal in December. The problem with the likes of Jova and Bellamy was they came for free so commanded huge wages. Crazy really. They were free for a reason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 We've only brought in Sturridge, Coutinho, Borini and Allen this season, and I'd be amazed if they're on more than a combined 200k a week. So thats 10 million off the 30 million. So it's more like 20 million cut from the wage bill. edit: oh, Assaidi, lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRJ Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 TEAM NEWS v Swansea: Reina, Johnson, Enrique, Agger, Carragher, Lucas, Gerrard, Coutinho, Downing, Sturridge, Suarez #LFC Subs: Gulacsi, Skrtel, Henderson, Shelvey, Sterling, Allen, Borini. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudester Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Very attack minded lineup today and seemingly Couthinho going to play behind the striker and downing Suarez from wide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Looking pretty open in Midfield again. I can see them doing us on the break; like every team. Apparently Henderson had a late fitness test and failed. So in comes Super ****ing Downing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Only just seen its a 3pm game, gonna miss the whole of Coutinhos first start Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Makes me laugh how two of Rodgers' main signings as a part of the new Liverpool don't start as often no more (Allen/Borini). Yet the people he wanted rid of in the summer tend to start ahead of them in recent games (Henderson/Downing). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Borini has been injured for four months and Allen has the fourth highest appearances this season. I can't see the laugh. edit: None of those players were brought in to replace those two, either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Borini has been back for over the past month, barely gets in team ahead of Downing (Who BR wanted gone) on the wing or Sterling. And Allen I'm not saying hasn't played all season, saying in past month he has been benched more than he has started. Also didn't say they were brought in to be replaced, just that the players BR wanted out at start of season are now featuring more than the players he brought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 He is picking on form ffs. What more do you want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I don't think pearcey knows what he's on about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 He is picking on form ffs. What more do you want. Exactly. That's my point. The people he wanted out are delivering more than the people he brought in at the start of the season in recent months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 How is that not a penalty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 Exactly. That's my point. The people he wanted out are delivering more than the people he brought in at the start of the season in recent months. They have been here longer, which helps. Also, Downing in particular has had about 3 rockets up his arse, so no surprise he started performing, or he most certainly was on the way out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Gerrard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Just, but thank god . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Did he stick it the same side as West Brom? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 No, he went left.(keepers) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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