Deedis Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Sign me up to CAMRAD as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El007 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I am saddened to say that seeing the new championship manager I have been converted to 3d. Still think dots rule but I will be playing with 3D. Remove me from the list if you will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Dafuge, any chance you would upload your January goal in 2D Classic as I'm curious to see it in that mode so I can compare. In 3D In 2D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariners Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Ladies and Gentlemen,Sick of 3D? NO! Fed up with jerky or stuttering match highlights? NO! It's not jerky and doesn't stutter! Love the imagination factor of watching a bunch of dots darting about on the pitch? NO! Enjoy the tactical side of the game and feel that you can better judge your tactics in 2D? NO! 3D RULES! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 In 3DIn 2D Thanks for uploading this Dafuge. Apart from the fact that the 2D classic video is a bit jerky, I actually think it looks better in 2D. Am I the only one who thinks this? C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Good goals I've seen better goals in 2D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie MUFC Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I think the goal looked better in 3D, but 2D is all about getting the job done. Practicality over prettiness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Count me in. I love dots! I tried 3D last but my computer was too laggy so I went back to 2D. I think it looks waaaay better. 3D was too jerky. Who needs to see players run around when you can instead look at dots run around? Dots rule. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zola444 Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 It takes a long time for me, especially compared to 2D mode. I hate watching football on television, so, no it definitely is a con. Good for you. It's jerky for me. Are you joking? Absolute rubbish! Only someone who is 'very very thick' or 'not football minded' would say such a thing... oh wait, you're about to try to patronise me by saying the same thing... Kind of rude really and coming from a ball watcher. I didn't say that I couldn't understand the positioning, I just said that positioning of players is easier to see when using 2D. That's why many coaches use 2D technology to check on their team's movement. Again, I'm pleased for you, but it doesn't work very well on mine. In my opinion, it doesn't look like real football at all. Plus, what you've written doesn't actually answer my point or make sense in relation to it! No. What? What's wrong with using your imagination? How could you possibly miss the point more? Second worst post I've ever read. Regards, C. Crouchaldinhio i am sorry and i know this is of topic but what is the worst post ever? because to beat that it must be bad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Crouchaldinhio i am sorry and i know this is of topic but what is the worst post ever? because to beat that it must be bad Do a search for "SFraser" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I recently started a thread around 2d verses 3d and how I believe 2d was perhaps the better option to "manage tactical decisions and decide on additonal changes in game" and I come across this thread. Would appreciate if someone can advise if this thread had ever had an official si response? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 Do a search for "SFraser" No comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 I recently started a thread around 2d verses 3d and how I believe 2d was perhaps the better option to "manage tactical decisions and decide on additonal changes in game" and I come across this thread.Would appreciate if someone can advise if this thread had ever had an official si response? No official response. They probably think we're just a bit mental and best ignored. Regards, C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy20 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Is it just me or on the 2D match engines of games like FM2005,2006,2007 and 2008 you could actually more or less see when a defender got skinned? Like the dot would do a mazy trick with the ball and take it past a slow defender and in your imagination you could see him skinning him in the actual match. On FM2010 that is not there anymore because the dots now represent what the 3D is actually doing. In the 3D I have not yet seen someone skin a defender 1 on 1 or do tricks against him. I used to see it all the time on the old skool Fm's if a players attributes were high in dribbling, technique, pace etc... I say for FM2011 bring back the FM2007 match engine and have all the features 2010 did in the game itself with even more if possible. That will never happen but it's good to dream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grade Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Well being the head of Imagination department of CAMRAD, I feel it is my duty to ask my fellow members to join one of the things I feel that have been left out by the so called "Realism" that was brought by the 3D, which is FUN. In the end FM is a game and should be fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterborough United Allsta Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I prefer 3D myself but the dots should still remain! I don't see why they have taken them out, I like having option Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flukey Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Spanner - works, but: What about using pure commentry? I loved the days when 2D wasn't around -the commentry gave you a picture in your mind as to what was happening and it was playable then. With the Match analysis tool there is no need for 2D really.. Saying that, I can see that using 2D gives you a live top down view, making it easier to analyse your game in real time. But then again 3D makes the game "feel" better if you see what I mean. I guess it comes down to personal preference - 2D if you are more into the tactics side of the game and 3D if you are more into the experience of the match day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tottenhamfmo7 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 bumpy! Come on guys, jump aboard! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGD Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I have barely played fm 2010 so haven't had a chance to see the match engines. But is the 2d really that bad? Like is their a massive difference between 2d on fm 2010 from 2008? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted November 5, 2009 Author Share Posted November 5, 2009 Spanner - works, but:What about using pure commentry? I loved the days when 2D wasn't around -the commentry gave you a picture in your mind as to what was happening and it was playable then. With the Match analysis tool there is no need for 2D really.. Saying that, I can see that using 2D gives you a live top down view, making it easier to analyse your game in real time. But then again 3D makes the game "feel" better if you see what I mean. I guess it comes down to personal preference - 2D if you are more into the tactics side of the game and 3D if you are more into the experience of the match day. I loved the idea of 2D as soon as it was introduced back in CM4 (wasn't it?). I never went back to commentary and I could never go back to it now. I just thought 2D was the perfect idea really, giving you a top down representation of what your team was doing on the pitch, without spoiling the imagination factor and without setting the impossible goal of trying to imitate real life as exactly as possible through 3D graphics and movement etc. C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marek_Hamsik Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 I thought this was a post about some World of Warcraft nerds whining about Warlocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted November 6, 2009 Author Share Posted November 6, 2009 If you want to have a discussion, try to do it in a mature and polite way. Give firm opinions backed up with evidence. Argue the point but do so with respect for others.I believe I have done so. If you think otherwise please heed your own advice and provide evidence ism-scfc - I'm very disappointed to read your recent response to me. I would like to discuss this in a grown up and mature way but unfortunately you have proved yourself incapable of forming a cogent argument, let alone having an adult conversation. I just do not have time to respond to individuals who cannot take part in a discussion in a mature and respectful way. As you have asked for evidence of this, I am including a few quotations from your recent post in this thread so that you can understand why I, and others, feel that your posts are basically full of empty trolling. would you please like to explain your point in normal English, using none of the feeble arguments above and also none of the arrogant, deluded '2D is better than 3D because...erm...erm...erm' type of crap [...] For the last f**king time, I do not claim that my opinions are necessarily fact. Do you know the difference between fact and opinion? I think a return to Primary school beckons for you Mr. Crouchaldinho [...] I do think that you may have a problem comprehending what you read if you think that those comments were directly aimed at you I won't give a response to any of these statements because I don't want to give you the satisfaction of a reaction from me. Needless to say, I'm just very disappointed that you feel the need to be so rude about me. I can only presume it is because you are not equipped with the necessarily skills to have an intelligent argument. This is the end of the line for me. I have absolutely no desire to get involved in a slanging match. Regards, C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie MUFC Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 Just heard Steve Claridge on 5 Live make the very point Crouchy made earlier in this thread. Commentating on the Portsmouth v Man Utd match, he remarked on Sir Alex Ferguson's touchline ban, and how he has to sit in the stands instead. He said that, if anything, it's an advantage as "you can't see the game from the touchline, when you're in the stands you can see everything and get a better feel for the game", and that the higher up you are, the better it is. Common sense, really, but it does add to why I, personally, get better results with 2D than with 3D. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 Really loving the 2D Classic in FM10 now I've got used to it. I've had quite a big FM10 session over the last couple of days and I've been enjoying the 2D very much. I really couldn't imagine ever getting into the 3D or using it at all. I think a major part of it is not having the top down view and the names and numbers being visible all of the time like you do in 2D. C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 That can be annoying, and you have to click a player multiple times to get his name to pop up. I do like watching the analysis in 3D after the match, but the goals often just look scrappy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Really loving the 2D Classic in FM10 now I've got used to it. I've had quite a big FM10 session over the last couple of days and I've been enjoying the 2D very much. I really couldn't imagine ever getting into the 3D or using it at all. I think a major part of it is not having the top down view and the names and numbers being visible all of the time like you do in 2D. C. Have you tried 3D on Fm10 yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo-Bongo Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Dots are so last Christmas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 Have you tried 3D on Fm10 yet? Yes, I gave it a try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BungleFish Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 im gonna have to start a new campaign, one for just using the commentary and player stats screen like oldschool cm01-02 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbert_o154 Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 im gonna have to start a new campaign, one for just using the commentary and player stats screen like oldschool cm01-02 Old school commentary is where it's at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamjerome Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 sup crew, i've very recently moved to playing in 2d again because the 3d is just unbearable. my laptop doesn't overheat either in 2d matches! wahey! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 2D-Classic on TV-View is amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almondo Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Your whole post was pretty ridiculous, but that point especially. If you really think that the only thing that matters in football is what's happening on the ball, could I politely suggest you start watching netball instead? Netball teams wouldn't want the guy watching them. Anyway's MR C love the T Shirt shows how long it's been since I posted in here) and Long Live the Dots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo9 Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 this is a very nice thread,i got very good experiences,thanks to you all posters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 I sit alone, and watch your light, My only friend through teenage nights All the patches I had to get I got them off the internet You showed us all the old time stars From Liverpool, to Vauxhall Cars You showed 'em shoot, you showed 'em score What you left out, our minds did draw So don't become some background numbers A backdrop for managers with sore thumbers Who just don't know, or just don't care They just complain that it's beyond repair You've had the time, you've had the power You're yet to have your finest hour Crazy dots All we see is, three dee gaga Three dee goo goo, three dee gaga All we hear is three dee gaga Three dee blah blah SI Games, what's new? Circular things, someone still loves you! We watch their arms, we watch their ears In full screen, for years and years We hardly need to use our minds This match engine's a field of mines Let's hope you'll never leave our friend Like all good things, we truely depend So stick around, 'cos we might miss you When we grow tired of all this visual You've had the time, you've had the power You're yet to have your finest hour Crazy dots All we see is, three dee gaga Three dee goo goo, three dee gaga All we hear is three dee gaga Three dee blah blah SI Games, what's new? Circular things, someone still loves you! You've had the time, you've had the power You're yet to have your finest hour Crazy dots Deserves to be posted again, it's just that good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave9ffc Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 I'm onboard, if I want to watch computer football I'll play FIFA, if I want to watch real football I'll watch Fulham FC and if I want to enjoy FM I'm using dots Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajc Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 I'm onboard, if I want to watch computer football I'll play FIFA, if I want to watch real football I'll watch Fulham FC and if I want to enjoy FM I'm using dots O.k I will confess I went 3d for a wile got fed up,did not play the game for months as I lost the love for it! Started playing again last week went back to 2d and am hooked again....I am back in love with the game thanks to 2d! One day I may switch to 3d but that day is not yet as 2d is so much more fun! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper tom Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Nooo way keep 3-D... My old laptop was rubbish and it used to be jerky on 3-D but now its brilliant on my new laptop... surely SI wont get rid of 3-D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlo116 Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Nooo way keep 3-D... My old laptop was rubbish and it used to be jerky on 3-D but now its brilliant on my new laptop... surely SI wont get rid of 3-D we're not looking to get rid of 3D but we want a quality 2D option to view our games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicky Lead Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 I sit alone, and watch your light,My only friend through teenage nights All the patches I had to get I got them off the internet You showed us all the old time stars From Liverpool, to Vauxhall Cars You showed 'em shoot, you showed 'em score What you left out, our minds did draw So don't become some background numbers A backdrop for managers with sore thumbers Who just don't know, or just don't care They just complain that it's beyond repair You've had the time, you've had the power You're yet to have your finest hour Crazy dots All we see is, three dee gaga Three dee goo goo, three dee gaga All we hear is three dee gaga Three dee blah blah SI Games, what's new? Circular things, someone still loves you! We watch their arms, we watch their ears In full screen, for years and years We hardly need to use our minds This match engine's a field of mines Let's hope you'll never leave our friend Like all good things, we truely depend So stick around, 'cos we might miss you When we grow tired of all this visual You've had the time, you've had the power You're yet to have your finest hour Crazy dots All we see is, three dee gaga Three dee goo goo, three dee gaga All we hear is three dee gaga Three dee blah blah SI Games, what's new? Circular things, someone still loves you! You've had the time, you've had the power You're yet to have your finest hour Crazy dots Deserves to be posted again, it's just that good. is it wrong i put radio gaga on on my iphone and song along with these words??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 This thread <3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio MVP Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 OmG Peter posted again in GD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 I keep meaning to come back and enlighten you all with my undoubted intellect, but forget. Will do soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio MVP Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 I keep meaning to come back and enlighten you all with my undoubted intellect, but forget. Will do soon Oh, please you do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 may do for the next FM actually. I'm sickeningly bad at this one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio MVP Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 may do for the next FM actually. I'm sickeningly bad at this one Remember us talking how we can't wait for the game? Well, I also haven't been the best in this FM. Can't wait for the patch to come out, so I could properly begin my long term save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Oh god I do. The days :*) Yeah, look forward to the patch, will start an unemployed one I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper tom Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 we're not looking to get rid of 3D but we want a quality 2D option to view our games. What's wrong with 2D at the moment and can someone explain how it is different now to how it was before???... im just interested lol:thup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjericho Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 yes, i do use 2d mode, and i love it. i want in please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I hear a lot of complaints about not being able to see the whole pitch in 3D. Doesn't anybody ever use the radar in 3D? I use it all the time so I can see what is going on, on the whole pitch. Works for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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