swirlypop69 Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 You can play your games offline though cant you ? Yes you can. You only need to go online to download the Steam client and then download the game. As mentioned multiple times already... Unless of course you're not solely talking about FM series...an internet based game such as Day of Defeat Source needs the internet obviously... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio MVP Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 May we know when approximately (sp?) the Strawberry and Vanilla DEMO will be available for direct download or download via torent on Friday? Thank you. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 If your account is hacked then Steam tend to get it back for you relatively quickly. I say tend to as I'm sure you're one of the few who had this happen to them and Steam ignored you and sent you rude responses but I've got friends who have had their accounts hacked on Steam and got everything back within the week. Also, if someone else was on his computer then he shouldn't keeped himself logged in on Steam or be more careful who he shares his account info with. I understand this, I was just offering some hypotheticals where it wouldn't necessarily be his fault for getting banned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roberto922 Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Obviously not obvious or I wouldnt have asked. Not sure what point you were making then as not sure what relevance a download limit got to do with anything relating to downloading FM though ? Unless you wanted to download it 200 times a month, surely most people are interested in speed when talking about connectivity and using steam etc If you had read my post and the posts preceding it you'll realize it was in response to someone saying game downloads are the future, and then another responding saying that on his current plan he'd be chucked off or something along those lines if he were to download as many games as he buys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 You can play your games offline though cant you ?Time to download on steam isnt much slower than p2p. I was downloading at 5mb/s over the weekend and would be lucky to get that on bittorrent. But if I buy FM through I have to download it. And I am not talking about being online as you play. Why do anything to get your account banned in the first place?! Maybe he didn't/hasn't. Maybe someone else did on his computer? Or maybe his account was hacked? Maybe Steam made an error? I don't have a STEAM account. Just that I have seen cases like that and games cost a fortune. Steam can even ban you for using cheats online. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swirlypop69 Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 I don't have a STEAM account. Just that I have seen cases like that and games cost a fortune. Steam can even ban you for using cheats online. Of course they'll ban cheats...nobody likes a cheat. Usually that is down to the admins of servers for each game rather than Steam though. Unfortunately they haven't managed it for the save/reload or any FM related "exploits". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoRobbo Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Of course they'll ban cheats...nobody likes a cheat. Usually that is down to the admins of servers for each game rather than Steam though. Unfortunately they haven't managed it for the save/reload or any FM related "exploits". If YOU want to cheat on a game that YOU have PAID for what has it got to do with anybody else? They should have no rights to ban anyone and keep them from the games that they have paid for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Of course they'll ban cheats...nobody likes a cheat. Usually that is down to the admins of servers for each game rather than Steam though. Unfortunately they haven't managed it for the save/reload or any FM related "exploits". Ofcourse. But why not ban him from online. Or from just that game. A cheat can be accidental, no point taking away 50 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swirlypop69 Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 If YOU want to cheat on a game that YOU have PAID for what has it got to do with anybody else? They should have no rights to ban anyone and keep them from the games that they have paid for. Well in my statement before I am talking about games such as Battlefield BC2, Day of Defeat, Call of Duty etc and not so much FM. When it's games you play by yourself, i.e. FM, then sure...you have a valid point. When it comes to playing with other people then of course cheats should be banned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio MVP Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 If YOU want to cheat on a game that YOU have PAID for what has it got to do with anybody else? They should have no rights to ban anyone and keep them from the games that they have paid for. This. On the other STEAM note, I don't like it just because I'm old-fashioned and like to have a boxed copy of FM in my hands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoRobbo Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Well in my statement before I am talking about games such as Battlefield BC2, Day of Defeat, Call of Duty etc and not so much FM. When it's games you play by yourself, i.e. FM, then sure...you have a valid point. When it comes to playing with other people then of course cheats should be banned. Yes they should be banned from using the service but how can Steam take away games that the person has paid for and owns. That is stealing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neji Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Do they ban you for cheating or cheating on multi-player games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Do they ban you for cheating or cheating on multi-player games? Multi-player. But the player should be banned from multi-player. Not everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neji Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Multi-player.But the player should be banned from multi-player. Not everything. I don't disagree but it all goes back to how YOU behave. They probably even warn you in their T&Cs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swirlypop69 Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Yes they should be banned from using the service but how can Steam take away games that the person has paid for and owns. That is stealing. They don't necessarily do that. To quote from their Steam Subscriber agreement: 2. In the case of a one-time purchase of a product license (e.g., purchase of a single game) from Valve, Valve may choose to terminate or cancel your Subscription in its entirety or may terminate or cancel only a portion of the Subscription (e.g., access to the software via Steam) and Valve may, but is not obligated to, provide access (for a limited period of time) to the download of a stand-alone version of the software and content associated with such one-time purchase. Full agreement can be found here: http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkbright Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Sometimes I find the attitude of a minority of forum users apalling! The people at SI have no obligation to give you a demo before they choose to release the game. If they choose to give us a demo, they have the option of releasing it however they wish, whenever they wish. If that means that you have to play it 24 hours later than everyone else because your Aunt Gertrude needs taking to Aldi to get her weekly supply of denture grip, then that is called life. Get used to it. I have to say if I was Miles I would have lost patience with this demo talk every year and would not release a demo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roberto922 Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 But then Sega would stick a boot up his arse and tell him to release one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny-Sniper Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Miles and the guys have worked hard on this game all year and all you guys can do is bitch about how steam get it first. I am one of the many that steam ****ed over on FM09. But I am taking the word of Miles and giving them another chance. If you don't want to do that, and fair enough, it's your choice, then you can wait an extra 24-48 hours for it. It's not that big a deal. I personally find the way you're attacking the choices of a man who has provided you with hours upon hours of entertainment with this completely amazing game absolutely disgusting. If he wants to release it over Steam first, he can. If he wants to release it a whole week before the torrent on steam, he can. If he doesn't want to release a demo, it's completely his prerogative. So shut up, wait for the Demo, and stop acting like spoilt little children whose sibling got the toy they wanted in a happy meal! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandmanager Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Sometimes I find the attitude of a minority of forum users apalling!The people at SI have no obligation to give you a demo before they chose to release the game. If they chose to give us a demo, they have the option of releasing it however they wish, whenever they wish. If that means that you have to play it 24 hours later than everyone else because your Aunt Gertrude needs taking to Aldi to get her weekly supply of denture grip, then that is called life. Get used to it. I have to say if I was Miles I would have lost patience with this demo talk every year and would not release a demo. very well said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabajingai Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 I must admit I do like how Steam looks on a Mac. I remember the days when it first came out and it looked hideous on my old PC. edit: Just pre-ordered via Steam as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamkemp2001 Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP Thursday!!! Sometimes I find the attitude of a minority of forum users apalling!The people at SI have no obligation to give you a demo before they choose to release the game. If they choose to give us a demo, they have the option of releasing it however they wish, whenever they wish. If that means that you have to play it 24 hours later than everyone else because your Aunt Gertrude needs taking to Aldi to get her weekly supply of denture grip, then that is called life. Get used to it. I have to say if I was Miles I would have lost patience with this demo talk every year and would not release a demo. Very well said. Its actually funny how people moan and pester miles for the demo release date and then moan when they don't like how it releases. Fair enough you've had problems with steam before but why hold grudges forever. Everyone deserves another chance and I have used steam after fm09 perfectly fine and actually love it now its so much easier. This is 2010 the future is digital deal with it or go without! P.s forgive and forget steam is quality stuff now if its only for the demo as I understand the views for wanting the cd for the full game! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio MVP Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Well is it STEAM or the DEMO coming out? I might be in a wrong thread... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandmanager Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP Thursday!!!Very well said. Its actually funny how people moan and pester miles for the demo release date and then moan when they don't like how it releases. Fair enough you've had problems with steam before but why hold grudges forever. Everyone deserves another chance and I have used steam after fm09 perfectly fine and actually love it now its so much easier. This is 2010 the future is digital deal with it or go without! P.s forgive and forget steam is quality stuff now if its only for the demo as I understand the views for wanting the cd for the full game! yeah and plus fm09 was uniloc DOS attacks not steams fault 1 bit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamkemp2001 Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Exactly as miles pointed out in the OP!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisLiebing Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 I understand exactly what your saying and your right. It just feels like SI is trying to force Steam onto people though. I know its only 1 day difference and if it was say a week difference it would be a different story but....Im sure im not alone here with the issues with Steam and it seems unfair that SI are releasing it in this way. It should be released at the same time for everybody then everybody is happy. This is just the start of it, wait till tomorrow when all the other 'Steam Haters' find out what is going on Anyway, I suppose I'll have to wait till Saturday. As ive got a funeral to go to in Bournmouth, I'll be taking my quite old laptop and having Steam running on it as well as FM would probably make it blow up so im screwed. A direct download on Thursday would have been ideal because I could have played it on the train. Oh well I do agree with you to some extent as i also hate steam. Reason being - i only just got it as i bought Civ 5 and couldnt play it without steam, after a few games i realised i hated Civ 5 as its poo (compared to 4) and sold it on Ebay. Of course the guy who bought it couldnt use it because of steam!!!!!! (Got it sorted out but major pain in the butt, avoid steam if at all possible) In this situation however its easy enough to download from Steam on the thursday play it til you download the torrent on Friday then get rid of Steam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperlz Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 i love miles jacobsen he is a living legend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandmanager Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 i love miles jacobsen he is a living legend i'm sure for this the demo will be released on wednesdat now only on steam though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkbright Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Perhaps Miles should personally ring every buyer of last years FM just to check if the proposed release date would fit in with their schedule. Then ask them how they would like the demo - Personally posted, delivered by a scantily clad busty blonde? Airdropped from a vintage B52? Ridiculous I admit, but if others continue to post such childish comments. So will I. Unfortunately, I have a thing call work which I have to do every week day and some weekends. You won't find me crying because some student who happens to have fridays off of lectures gets to play FM before me. Good luck to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicmastermind124 Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Miles, I have a question - is the editor going to be in the demo? It would be rocking if it would be, because that way we can get downloads out on the day of release or before for people to play immediately on edited files. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Miles, I have a question - is the editor going to be in the demo? It would be rocking if it would be, because that way we can get downloads out on the day of release or before for people to play immediately on edited files. You only have quickstarts on the demo. You don't even select a database. So no editor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio MVP Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Perhaps Miles should personally ring every buyer of last years FM just to check if the proposed release date would fit in with their schedule. Then ask them how they would like the demo - Personally posted, delivered by a scantily clad busty blonde? Airdropped from a vintage B52?Ridiculous I admit, but if others continue to post such childish comments. So will I. Unfortunately, I have a thing call work which I have to do every week day and some weekends. You won't find me crying because some student who happens to have fridays off of lectures gets to play FM before me. Good luck to them. Option number 2 please. Thanks. Miles, I have a question - is the editor going to be in the demo? It would be rocking if it would be, because that way we can get downloads out on the day of release or before for people to play immediately on edited files. Editor doesn't comes with DEMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blala Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Can i expect that the game will release about midnight or after that . silly question i knew ^_^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaputz Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Hi Miles, i suggest to sports interactive, a including portuguese language on football manager 2011, because there are a HUGE portuguese community that plays online and we always have to download a portuguese language file, so tht's all. Think about it please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick_chelsea Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 May we know when approximately (sp?) the Strawberry and Vanilla DEMO will be available for direct download or download via torent on Friday? Thank you. Cheers. Steam demo will probably be live at midnight wednesdaynight/thursday morning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARFC Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 I have a question about steam. I haven't been able to access anything online (store etc) for as long as I can remember. If I preorder the game through the website will I be able to download it on the 5th? I have tried uninstalling it and installing it again but it continually comes up 'cannot connect to server' quoting error '-102'. I live a walk away from Asda but it is easier to use steam as I'll just do what I did the last two years and validate it with steam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicmastermind124 Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Editor doesn't comes with DEMO. I think it should, I know you can't use a db on the demo, and why the capital letters? I can read. Read my post, it would make sense for the editor to be included. I know most players want to play the game, but if one of the main aims of the demo is to find bugs for SI (because this type of game will have them) then why should the case not be the same for the editor? It is a feature after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cha Cha Cha Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Miles and the guys have worked hard on this game all year How do you know it? Maybe they have not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Miles Jacobson Posted October 18, 2010 Author SI Staff Share Posted October 18, 2010 I have to say if I was Miles I would have lost patience with this demo talk every year and would not release a demo. I'm used to it, to be fair - which is why I posted such a detailed original post to try and bypass any bickering. Looks like it didn't work. But then Sega would stick a boot up his arse and tell him to release one. That actually made me laugh really loudly. Which isn't really what I should be doing whilst watching Spooks. You only have quickstarts on the demo. You don't even select a database. So no editor. That is correct. Hi Miles, i suggest to sports interactive, a including portuitguese language on football manager 2011, because there are a HUGE portuguese community that plays online and we always have to download a portuguese language file, so tht's all. Think about it please. If you buy the game in Portugal, or through Steam, then you'll have the Portuguese language in there. It has been for many, many years. If you import it from the UK, or pirate it, then you won't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny-Sniper Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Miles. I love you. I know nowhere but at Sports Interactive and Football manager where such an integral figure in the games development actually takes time to resolve issues on the forum. You truly are an amazing individual. Thank you for creating such an amazing game and unboring as well as enthralling me for many many many MANY hours. I can't wait to get the full game. Hopefully my local game store is going to do a midnight launch so I can get the game. I live 5 miles away from town but I would gladly walk there and back for FM. Thank you once again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uistbhoy Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 i love miles jacobsen he is a living legend hi mrs jacobsen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scholes=legend Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 Sorry if this has already been asked but haven't got time to read through the thread. Will the demo be available from 12 midnight on thursday or could it be anytime? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nev147 Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 Sorry if this has already been asked but haven't got time to read through the thread. Will the demo be available from 12 midnight on thursday or could it be anytime? As far as I am aware there has been no official word. A few members seem to think it will be midnight - as thats when it will become available on steam - I would think the same. But no official answer of yet!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frame Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 Is Chile included in the demo because of the miners? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunarrrrrrr Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 Too soon and nowhere near funny enough bro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMister Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 You should really edit that before even more people think you're stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyewu Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 Sometimes I find the attitude of a minority of forum users apalling!The people at SI have no obligation to give you a demo before they choose to release the game. If they choose to give us a demo, they have the option of releasing it however they wish, whenever they wish. If that means that you have to play it 24 hours later than everyone else because your Aunt Gertrude needs taking to Aldi to get her weekly supply of denture grip, then that is called life. Get used to it. I have to say if I was Miles I would have lost patience with this demo talk every year and would not release a demo. Darkbright - you are right on.............I'm not sure if all the folks on here complaining are Brits, but comprehension, patience and common courtesy must not be taught in the schools there. Nice to hear a person of reason on one of these threads.{ Miles....you must be a saint}. Good luck with those Shrimpers!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryMills Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 I'm only guessing but I don't think they release the demo for the sake of being kind, I imagine it makes good business sense, otherwise they wouldn't bother to do it; if that's so it wouldn't matter how ''apalling'' (sic) people are. We're not friends with SI, they're not doing us a favour, we're potential customers and they want our business. It's much nicer to be polite etc, but please don't delude yourself, this isn't a tea party where if you can't play nicely you won't get a goody bag, it's business. However, if i'm wrong and the demo is merely a philanthropic exercise to improve the lot of football fans everywhere, I apologise. Perhaps if we're all extra polite we might also get a free copy of the game and a gold star alongside the demo just for being super duper forum chums? no? boo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpless Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 That actually made me laugh really loudly. Which isn't really what I should be doing whilst watching Spooks. Spooks was good last night! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
seagull84 Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 Miles.....Where I am ( South Korea) it says that I can't buy fm2011 using steam as it's not available in my territory. Will i be able to download the demo through STEAM though?? Thanks in advance Miles or Sega, or anybody.... Please answer this question, A couple of times i've had near answers! Miles said he would ask a Sega guy about why I can't use STEAM in South Korea, and MAtt- Sega said he would check and get back to me, this was weeks ago. I just want to know if I'll be able to get the demo on Thursday or not.... p.s the new game looks absolutely brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpaz4postz Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 I was always of the opinion that a game demo was released so that potential customers could "try before they buy". Given that the vast majority of people on these forums are going to purchase the game anyway, i fail to see why there is any concern regarding how the games' demo is being made available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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