Rhino Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 v This is the big one then, the match that many people, including myself, believe will determine who wins Group C. Underneath all the Anglo-Scots bravado, I'll be cheering on the English this afternoon. I'm sure that comes as great relief to you all. The teams are expected to be announced "2 hours before kick-off" according to the BBC, so here's the latest news: Latest Team News Milner to start? (BBC) Line-up Predicitions featuring Heskey and Milner (Guardian) Just how excited are you? Venue: Rustenburg Date: Saturday, 12 June 2010 Kick-off: 19:30 BST Coverage: ITV and BBC Radio 5 live, live text commentary and video highlights on the BBC website (UK only) TEAM NEWS England manager Fabio Capello knows his starting XI for Saturday. Joe Cole is expected to replace the injured Gareth Barry in midfield, with Ledley King and Emile Heskey also in the side. Rob Green, David James and Joe Hart are all vying to start in goal. USA coach Bob Bradley has confirmed that Jozy Altidore will start up front after the striker recovered from the ankle sprain that kept him out of his team's 3-1 friendly win over Australia last Saturday. The in-form Edson Buddle, who netted twice against the Socceroos, could partner Altidore in attack, with Robbie Findley likely to have to settle for a place on the bench. Key defender Oguchi Onyewu remains a fitness concern for Bradley. The AC Milan player ruptured a knee tendon last October and only made his comeback on 26 May. MATCH PREVIEW It is 60 years this month since a part-time dishwasher named Joe Gaetjens humiliated England and gave the United States the most famous victory in their history. His winning goal in a World Cup group match helped eliminate an England side that, like now, was among the pre-tournament favourites. There is little danger of England underestimating the opposition on Saturday. The Three Lions under Fabio Capello's supervision know they must be wary of an American side that continues to be adept at big game hunting. Just ask Spain, who had set a world record of 15 consecutive victories before being beaten by the US in South Africa at last summer's Confederations Cup. The US then nearly overcame top-ranked Brazil in the final, leading 2-0 before succumbing to a cruel defeat. US goalkeeper Tim Howard has promised his side "are going to fight and claw" on Saturday. Capello will demand that England respond by baring their teeth, as he himself has done in the dressing room and on the training pitch in recent weeks. Players and photographers alike have incurred his wrath. England are the seeded team in the group and start as favourites, although several players are still auditioning for a regular starting role this summer. The same can be said of the USA, who have failed with a cheeky bid to psych out England. The USA's new first-choice kit is based on the white one worn in the 1-0 victory over England at the 1950 World Cup, but they cannot wear it on Saturday as England are officially the home team and will play in white. MATCH FACTS Head-to-head The USA won 1-0 in the only previous competitive meeting between the two nations, at the 1950 World Cup in Brazil. The USA's only other win against England was a 2-0 home victory in June 1993. England have won seven of their nine matches against the USA, including the last three. England England have won all three of their internationals in 2010. They twice came from behind to win, against Egypt and Japan, having not previously managed to do so in four years. England are unbeaten in their last four opening matches at the World Cup. They have been held to more goalless draws than any other side in the history of the World Cup finals: nine of England's 55 matches have finished 0-0. Fabio Capello's side averaged 3.4 goals per game in the qualifying campaign, more than any other nation. Ledley King is poised to start a competitive England game for the first time in three years since he partnered John Terry in a 3-0 win against Estonia in a Euro 2008 qualifier. USA The USA's victory over Australia in their final warm-up match ended a run of four straight defeats against other nations competing at this summer's World Cup. They have gone 10 games without keeping a clean sheet. They have conceded at least two goals in all eight of their previous opening World Cup matches. The United States were top scorers in the World Cup qualifying campaign with 42 goals in 18 games. MATCH OFFICIALS Referee: Carlos Simon (Brazil) Assistants: Altemir Hausmann & Roberto Bratz (both Brazil) Fourth official: Eddy Maillet (Seychelles) CLICHE SWEEP - WINDSCREEN WIPERS TO BE WON How long after kick-off will it take for the commentators on ITV to mention 1966? 00:02 - Bomma123 00:09 - robin trott hoof 00:20 - djstu23 00:45 - el sid 00:50 - aggressive minor 03:27 - standard liege 06:47 - Rhino They won't!! - brett.spurs (crazy fool) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orzelek Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Come on USA! But can't see anything else then a easy win for England Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 England should win this for easily outclassing the US on all positions, but for reasons of a lifetime of watching general England-fan-mongery, hooliganism and arrogance, as well as the USA simply being the underdog, I will be cheering for the USA! USA! USA! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhammad Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Come on England, let's have them! I'm guessing 3-1, really hope Hart starts in goal, and Rooney on his own up front. Then maybe Gerrard and Lampard can play better together, as Gerrard can push up a little more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 For those of you interested in Rooney's temperament, I read yesterday that he's not been booked in his last 17 England games, but his last booking was against the USA. BTW, if you have anything you want added to the OP just let me know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhammad Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Not a good omen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaynm Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 So excited for this one! Fully expect England to beat USA today though, and also go on and win the group at a canter - Need to get off to a good start. I'll predict a nice 2-0 win for England, goals from Rooney and Gerrard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svenc Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Motherland vs Soccerboys, most delicate pairing so far. Time to get Americans to watch socc... football now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low_Flying_Seagull Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 2-2 draw I reckon, early nerves from England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner4eva Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Mon Mon England! Engerland Engerland Engerland! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoham Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Draw, loads of moaning, while England go on to win the other two games fairly comfortably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Motherland vs Soccerboys, most delicate pairing so far. Time to get Americans to watch socc... football now. That's quite a good pishtake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standard liege! Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Come on England!!! 2-1 win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcoleman1 Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 I think we will win. I will stick my neck out and say 3-1 but tbh I would be happy with 1-0, 2-1 etc. Gutted I have been disorganised and not had time to get a new England shirt however I still have an old one (which I think a mate left at mine about 3 years ago) and tbh that looks pretty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudge7 Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Mon America. England to take the lead, but USA to win 2-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhammad Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Mon America. England to take the lead, but USA to win 2-1. Typical Scot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roberto922 Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Clean sheet please Howard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djstu23 Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 2-1 win. Lampard and Terry to score. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_trott_hoof Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Logically the USA defence shouldn't be up to it - Spector, Bocangera and DeMerit wouldn't get near the England team - and Onyewu has been injured all season. But England will make spectacularly heavy work of it all the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 While we're waiting for kick off, let's run a little sweep: How long after kick-off will it take for the commentators on ITV to mention 1966? Take a guess at the time, including seconds, and closest wins...*looks around*...some Windscreen Wipes* I'll get the ball rolling at 6 minutes, 47 seconds. *P&P £3.50 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomma Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 2 seconds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
why? Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 For absolutely no logical reason i keep thinking Capello is going to start with Hart. Should be a good game though this, expecting England to slowly splutter into action like in every tournament but hopefully sneak a win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swisso Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 We'll make a meal out of what is a very average US defence, but i fully expect us to triumph 2-0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGartz Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 This is going to be about 5-0 to England. USA team are rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 This is going to be about 5-0 to England. USA team are rubbish. You do know they're ranked 14 in the World, don't you? As good as England? No. Rubbish? Certainly not. I've gone for a 1-0 England win. Just. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 I think we'll win. But being the first game, wouldn't be suprised to see a 1-1 draw. Which wouldn't be that bad a result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 45 seconds imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standard liege! Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 This is going to be about 5-0 to England. USA team are rubbish. Umm they really aren't tbh. Will be our toughest game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 45 seconds imo That's you added to the list in the OP now and hopefully we can get some more participants. Hell, if we can run a sweep for the length of the pause before announcing the winner of BGT then we can surely do it for this! So, for the rest of you, in minutes and seconds, How long after kick-off will it take for the commentators on ITV to mention 1966? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 50 . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standard liege! Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 3 minutes and 27 seconds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djstu23 Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 20 seconds. Just looking at our opening game record.... it is not great . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 It wouldn't really suprise me if they mentioned it ON the kick-off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner4eva Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Im scared now, not confident at all and i think our competitino could be over before its started , we must win this group. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_trott_hoof Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 I'll go for 9 seconds for something along the lines of "If England can avoid a repeat of 1950 today, maybe - just maybe - we can dream of repeating 1966." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett.spurs Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 My answer is they won't. We need to get Lennon(if he plays) running at Bocanegra or whoever's at left back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 Latest news is that Milner may start. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8735540.stm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner4eva Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 , i want Lennon on that right hand side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 The Beeb reckon it's between Milner and Cole for the left midfield slot, and seems a stick-on that Lennon will start on the right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner4eva Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Cole on the left, Lennon on the right please. Milner can gtfo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
why? Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 James Milner could be a surprise name in contention to start England's opening World Cup game against the United States on Saturday.Milner is battling for a place with Joe Cole for a place on the left flank. Great work by the BBC there. Alternatively Jamie Carragher could be partnering Wayne Rooney up front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop shot Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 USA to win causing the headline writers for the newspapers tomorrow to spontainiously combust thus giving us nothing to read about Yanks 1 Planks 0 or whatver these gimps come up with!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 I assume we will be playing in white today as we are technically the 'home' side? Anyone know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djstu23 Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Would prefer J Cole start on the left hand side. We are in white for tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner4eva Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 I assume we will be playing in white today as we are technically the 'home' side? Anyone know? Yeah, we are in our home strip and U.S.A. in their away strip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Cheers Djstu23 & gunner4eva. I thought that would be the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisandro Lopez Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Alternatively Jamie Carragher could be partnering Wayne Rooney up front. He'd score more than Heskey I'm sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcoleman1 Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Asked my mate where he will be watching it and he said at home What a let down. Tbh I love watching it with my girflirned she get's really into it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 1-1 or 2-1 USA. Can see England slipping up in the 1st game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sandman Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 if Spector plays it's 3-0 England, if not 2-1 USA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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