Starting to get so sick of this pathetic game

I am constantly dominating games, i am having for example in the last game 27 shots to middlesboroughs 4

Yet they win 1 - 0 i have best rated strikers in the league, good enough for premier league (Wickham, evans and carlton cole)

I have premiership rated midfielders (Buonatte (Sp?) Jimenez, Berson, assiati.

Great keeper and defenders

Yet about 6 or 7 games this season i have had over 20 shots to the opposing teams single figure shots and i lose.

yes you can say confidence, it happens in real life, etc but not this OFTEN.

Enjoyment raidly going out of these games as they progress.

Also what i often call half time team talk manager hasnt changed much, can be dominating a game, say the wrong thing at half time and the first highlight will be the opposite team scoring....Pile of bull*****

I am constantly dominating games, i am having for example in the last game 27 shots to middlesboroughs 4

Yet they win 1 - 0 i have best rated strikers in the league, good enough for premier league (Wickham, evans and carlton cole)

I have premiership rated midfielders (Buonatte (Sp?) Jimenez, Berson, assiati.

Great keeper and defenders

Yet about 6 or 7 games this season i have had over 20 shots to the opposing teams single figure shots and i lose.

yes you can say confidence, it happens in real life, etc but not this OFTEN.

Enjoyment raidly going out of these games as they progress.

Also what i often call half time team talk manager hasnt changed much, can be dominating a game, say the wrong thing at half time and the first highlight will be the opposite team scoring....Pile of bull*****

Hahaha that's so true. Get the team talk wrong and you're guaranteed at least a goal against within 5 minutes after half time.

What does your league table look like? Any chance of a screenshot?

Yeh will put one up.

Getting soo peed off - it really is ridiculous

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It's your tactics...

But seriously it is, are you playing attacking or overload in these matches? Because if so and they play counter attacking you will get caught on the break all the time.

It's sometimes better to play standard when your team is better than the opposite. It takes longer until you get your chances, but you get probably the better ones.

It certainly looks like you have had a bit of bad luck with that goal difference. Scoring goals obviously isn't the problem, have you tried playing a little bit more defensively to try and turn a few more of those losses into draws?

Yeh without being big headed i am usually quite good at FM, have played it for years.

Know about tactics, change it depending on opposition, my tatctic ratings for different tactics are all full, when i look at the match preparation screen etc.

And look at what just happened against 20th place millwall

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Maybe you need a better goalkeeper?

Goalkeeper is the argentina number 2 on the game, Carrizo

Meh, I find the whole "one shot, one goal" thing works as much in my favour as against me. A recent example would be Cardiff away, got hammered from start to finish but scored our single shot on goal and won 1-0. But then it's also happened against us this season, swings and roundabouts.

OP: Out of curiosity, what are your defence/keepers concentration levels like? All it takes is for them to switch off for a moment...

That match against Millwall are the ones that just make you ALT+F4.. you have my sympathy

Concentrations are 12 13 12 12

PS: I never Alt F4 though am sooo tempted, but before i can i quickly click save lol

Are you playing a very attacking style? have you tried playing to 'not get beat' rather than to win all the time?

My home tactic is usually attacking, but also play standard, or counter depending on the strength of the opposite team.

I almost never put overload on and if i do its only last 10 mins if i am losing 1-0.

If i am away against a tough team i try to not get beat!

half way through a home game i have had 12 shots 7 on target 1 goal

Sheff Utd away have had 3 shots 1 on target 1 goal (With my new keeper, lonegeran) :/

PS: Playing standard with a 4141 formation

I WON 4-1

You gotta start exploring different aspects of the game, start commenting on managers/dangermen. Don't keep saying the same old thing in press conferences. Talk to your players occasionally. Look at your player roles, are they really fitting right? Do your replacement players fit in those roles? Strike partnerships? Re-evaluate everything. And also try playing more rigid.

Yeh guess commenting more on things may help.

Thing is in my first seaosn when i won the championship i didnt and was fine.

i then got up to the premier league and got relegated i think fairly

However this luck seems very unfair:thdn:

Meh, I find the whole "one shot, one goal" thing works as much in my favour as against me. A recent example would be Cardiff away, got hammered from start to finish but scored our single shot on goal and won 1-0.

I can honestly say, that I have not had this happen to me in FM11. It may have happened in previous versions, unlikely in FM10, go back to FM07 or 08 yes , I would say it occurred every now and then. I may have snuck in a lucky draw where I've had 3 or 4 shots to the oppositions 10 or 15 , but never had a 1 shot 1 goal result.

Seriously i think this game is screwing with my head, just had 27 shots 8 on target. Had instruction to work the ball into box second half, changed from attacking to standard, and 0-0

Think ill just go back to fm10.3

Honestly 11.2 is a pile of *****!

Keep dominating games, tried new goalkeeper, new striker, working balls into box, rigid, fluid, standard, counter, attacking, just nothing is working.

I have the best squad in the league yet the game seems to con the fook out of me.

Seriously hating the game at the moment,

I know most people will think this is just your average rant, but it really isn't, i know about tactics, i have done challenges before, even downloaded and read the entire tactics guide for fm10, its not as if i dont know what i am doing, its that i am working with poorly made tools.

Rant over....well for tonight, i will wake up tomorrow, go do some work, come home play a bit and see what pile of bull it comes up with.

What about match preparation? Make sure that's all in order, and maybe change the workload for the tactic, will get them playing how you want.

Use match preperation.

I think the thing people dont seem to be getting, is its not i am playing badly its the fact that i consistently dominate games.

Opposition keepers consistently play 8 and above.

I consistently have 3-6 clear cut chances in a match, only for them to be saved or wide or post etc.

I have good strikers for championship levels, Carlton cole, ched evans, connor wickham. 3 seasons in, the first 2 seasons it was a fair game, this season everything has changed. It feels broken

Game is broke and has been for a while die-hard fans can't admit it. I still love it though

Game is broke and has been for a while die-hard fans can't admit it. I still love it though

the only thing that's broke are the thoughts of some people on here

try a counter and more direct style of play possibly witha deep defensive line.

lets the opposition come on to you, open spaces at the back, then you can hit them with quick and ddirect passes before they get a chance to get everyone back again

IRL Birmingham 1 Chelsea 0 a month ago. Anyone who saw this game would have seen how much chelsea dominated the game and how many chances they missed or Foster saved so to the OP, it happens .

Always thought a great idea would be to choose from a list of match engine versions to use, so every other part of the game is FM11 but the match engine could be from FM8 or something.

I can honestly say, that I have not had this happen to me in FM11. It may have happened in previous versions, unlikely in FM10, go back to FM07 or 08 yes , I would say it occurred every now and then. I may have snuck in a lucky draw where I've had 3 or 4 shots to the oppositions 10 or 15 , but never had a 1 shot 1 goal result.

I should probably have stated i'm still using FM10, my bad. But I also play a very counter-attacking game, so it's more likely my style of football than anything else.

Maybe it's your players preferred moves? Maybe something that your strikers prefer to do is actually causing them to blow wide open shots (such as blasting the ball at the goal)

Wow - Blackburn not doing very well under the Venkys are they

C'mon Saints - push for those playoff places!!!

I love FM...one screenshot and I'm well into your game!

Out of interest - How much did you pay for Carlton Cole and what wages is he on?

Well i know that it does happen in real life, but what i am saying is it DOES NOT happen to the same team, 5-6 games in 2 months.

In other news, carlton cole was transfer listed and unhappy, 1.6Mil and 42k wages.

Would be interesting to see your league table.

IRL Birmingham 1 Chelsea 0 a month ago. Anyone who saw this game would have seen how much chelsea dominated the game and how many chances they missed or Foster saved so to the OP, it happens .

It does. But I'm leaning towards the OP's arguments. If it happened occasionally you can chalk it down to bad luck. I personally wouldn't want to win every game anyway, occasionally getting mugged off in a game you dominate is what makes it so frustratingly realistic, and addictive. But it does seem to happen A LOT on 11.2. Multiple times I've had 15+ shots to the opposition's 2, 6 CCC to their 0, and drawn 0-0 or lost 1-0. Unfortunately the argument "ITS BROKEN, ITS NOT FAIR!!!!" is just as moronic as "No its not, its your tactics, it happens IRL". Having the ability top offer criticism and praise where due, in a constructive way, is unfortunately what a lot of this forum miss. The game is either 10/10 or 0/10.

Keep dominating games, tried new goalkeeper, new striker, working balls into box, rigid, fluid, standard, counter, attacking, just nothing is working.

Therein lies your problem. Too much tinkering and too little long term strategy. Do you have a set idea of how you are going to play in various conditions and against different formations within an overall system (i.e. I will play balanced, short passing, less CF, zonal marking etc but will play more direct in wet conditions, exploit the flanks against narrow formations, work the ball and pass into space on good pitches?) Do you have plans to see games out, unpick massed defences, score on the counter against teams coming at you etc, etc?

All FM11 requires is logical tactical planning, a willingness to believe in the method even when it doesn't go as expected, and a consistent man/media management strategy.

I am constantly dominating games, i am having for example in the last game 27 shots to middlesboroughs 4

Yet they win 1 - 0 i have best rated strikers in the league, good enough for premier league (Wickham, evans and carlton cole)

I have premiership rated midfielders (Buonatte (Sp?) Jimenez, Berson, assiati.

Great keeper and defenders

Yet about 6 or 7 games this season i have had over 20 shots to the opposing teams single figure shots and i lose.

yes you can say confidence, it happens in real life, etc but not this OFTEN.

Enjoyment raidly going out of these games as they progress.

Also what i often call half time team talk manager hasnt changed much, can be dominating a game, say the wrong thing at half time and the first highlight will be the opposite team scoring....Pile of bull*****

your midfield is too weak

If the game is pathetic, stop playing. That should sort your problem.

Always happy to help

If the game is pathetic, stop playing. That should sort your problem.

Always happy to help

mmm, i love fanbois

It's your tactics...

But seriously it is, are you playing attacking or overload in these matches? Because if so and they play counter attacking you will get caught on the break all the time.

This answer comes out on here all the time, every year in fact. If a managers team is creating many chances then I do not believe his tactics are bad (at least not IRL). I'm always successful at FM due to trial and error (and persistence) but if I develop a tactic that continually creates chances then I expect to score more goals in most games.

Anyone else found that more chances go blazing by the post since the last patch? It makes the highlights quite boring.

Dominating and conceding like that would tend to suggest that you are getting caught on the break or something. Do you tend to concede similar goals?

The only thing I can say about your attacking is that you do not get a lot of your shots on target. Are your strikers rushing their chances? Or are you playing a fast tempo?

Lol alot to reply to but anyway....

Basically WWFAN i did have a long term tactic, for attacking, for standard, for counter and had all of these on match preperation fluid on all.

I used them all, however this did not seem to solve problem, only then was it when i changed a bit and added carlton cole and a new goalkeeper in the jan window.

I dont think many people are getting the point, it seems like the suggestion is that if i have less shots then more goals will go in. Sorry but IRL (PS i know its a game) the having 20 odd shots in a game against the opponents 3-4 and losing is rare, on FM11 it seems common.

Therein lies my argument. I am not the only person who this has happened to.

Also not saying its a 0/10 game but it is not as good as fm10.3.

Too many bugs too

So i tweak my tactic, and then i play awful but win.

Maybe FM just doesnt like attractive attacking football - Weird but i guess i will take it.

Though still will probably end up on 10.3 in a few days

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PS: Just to reiterate just because i won does not mean i think the game is any better, still think it is highly bugged and not a great effort

Realism FTW.

If you had any sense and read the thread you would realise it wasnt realism at all 6 games in 2 months where i had over 20 shots and the opposing team had less then 5 and i drew or lost all 6. Not realistic at all IMO, ever state a case where it has happened 6 times? NO? Dint think so

Playing a cautious tactic right from the start, i dont often see such stats in my game though sometimes it did get frustrating to see me dominate the games but miss chance after chance only for the opposition to score on their second, and on some occasions first attempt to either draw or win the game. Playing attacking football should not be seen as a problem. If your team are creating chances, and if you have got a good striker, then most of those chances should be put away no matter if the scoreline reads 1-0 or 10-0 on a regular basis. After all this is a game..trying to bring in real life stats into an unrealistic engine is really a poor way of going about things. I wonder how Guardiola would feel if he is told that his team are creating lots of chances or how Martin Jol would have felt last season if he was told that every other goal would be disallowed since he was creating an "unrealistic" number of chances. This problem/correction has been in the game for the past three versions (from 09 i believe) and it could be solved through handing out some intelligence to the defenders though going by SI's track record, it would require at least two versions for them to get it right.

when thing's like this happen there is normally a small problem. finding it can be hard but i really beleive it will be such a small change that is needed.

I was having problems of my own recently, and i tweaked thing's slightly and my form has been amazing since..

Try and take a step back mate and look at how you go about the job, try and see thing's from another managers point of view, 1 small change may turn thing's around..

when you read game manuls and assistant advice, i find doing what they tell you should do can backfire at times..

If you had any sense and read the thread you would realise it wasnt realism at all 6 games in 2 months where i had over 20 shots and the opposing team had less then 5 and i drew or lost all 6. Not realistic at all IMO, ever state a case where it has happened 6 times? NO? Dint think so

then if you think this game is pathetic, why on earth are you still playing it then ? If you continue to play it, you just got to accept it and keep tweaking your tactics, get better players, train your current players better, the whole lot

when thing's like this happen there is normally a small problem. finding it can be hard but i really beleive it will be such a small change that is needed.

I was having problems of my own recently' date=' and i tweaked thing's slightly and my form has been amazing since..

Try and take a step back mate and look at how you go about the job, try and see thing's from another managers point of view, 1 small change may turn thing's around..

when you read game manuls and assistant advice, i find doing what they tell you should do can backfire at times..[/quote']

keep tweaking your tactics, get better players, train your current players better, the whole lot

Tweak it? Ahh so the best way to make sure that you win is to ask Tevez to stop closing down more or ask Messi and Ronaldo to stop dribbling more or ask Xavi to make sure that he creates just one or two chances (just so that the finishing percentages will be more) rather than create 5 or 6 in each match. Hmmm...will try to get this "fact to reach Mancini, Mourinho or Guardiola. Why should his tactics be wrong? It is already an effective one, creating him loads of chances. His strikers may be poor, but these sort of stats have been posted by players who have world class teams.

This correction is in the game..and nothing (game manuals/ass man advice/"seeing things from another managers point of view") will not help. This is the way SI has tried to stop gamers exploiting the ME and notch up cricket scores. Blaming his tactics or how he plays is real foolish.

then if you think this game is pathetic, why on earth are you still playing it then

Yeah right..what is the difference between this sort of comment and others which claim that the game conspires against human managers to lose???

well my strikers score for fun, they miss chances but so do all strikers.

It sounds like your strikers are nervous, and i would imagine if they have missed a lot of chances they will be, get new strikers, or get better midfielders to create easier chances, dont just blame the game.

The ME this year is the best ever i would say, there are slightly too many chances created but thats not really a problem.