Morrissey Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Back again for another year! Instead of doing 2 different DBs this time, I've put all my efforts into one real-life DB going all the way down to the bottom of the junior ranks. Also, it always annoyed me playing in the Lowland League with no real players when the Highland League had full squads...so I've been watching various games and working with some of the clubs to make real squad lists this season! A huge thank you is owed to the SLFL's media man Michael Park, as well as representatives from Cumbernauld Colts, Edusport Academy, Uni of Stirling and BSC Glasgow for their help with this. Here's a brief change list: Addition of all leagues in the SFA pyramid, as well as the SJFA ranks underneath and relevant cups Lowland Squads added to complement the Highland League's detail level Managers added at all playable levels Cups corrected to work as they do IRL, with the Scottish Cup and Irn-Bru Cup seeing changes Graphics pack for logos (all teams and leagues) available Working playoffs at every level (including the seperate strands of the SJFA) *PENDING* Junior league reconstruction after season 2017/18, as will happen in real life This saw over 10k downloads last year, hoping to get even better this time around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 Download links: Logopack (version 1) now available! Database (Steam link) Database (FM Scout link) Structure: Competition Explainer: Some things that you need to know about these new competitions... 1) The winners of the Alba and Alex Jack cups meet in the Shield game. Winning this guarantees a Scottish Cup place 2) Winning the top Junior league in each region (any Level 1) or the Junior Cup guarantees a Scottish Cup place 3) Some clubs automatically qualify for the Scottish Cup regardless of performance by virtue of being licensed (achieving a minimum SFA standard) - Banks O’Dee, Linlithgow Rose, Girvan and others benefit from this Full(ish) Change List: Coming soon... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magika80 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Cracking idea as always m8,the english equivalent of this always seems very popular when it comes along.I tend to use the scottish file at times myself but like you say the "fake" players takes the realism away from it all in fairness.. Depending how this pans out i may have a crack at it with my local side Larkhall Thistle...Any chance of some kits for them at all? Keep up the good work m8 i for one wiil be keeping an eye on this!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Oooohhh, magnificent! Yes, I really enjoyed your work last year - can't wait for this. I hope against hope that this one will be compatible with the Level 23 English file; if not I'll be having it anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cel1234 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Great news on Lowland Leagues squads can't we actually get them into the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 20, 2017 5 hours ago, Magika80 said: Cracking idea as always m8,the english equivalent of this always seems very popular when it comes along.I tend to use the scottish file at times myself but like you say the "fake" players takes the realism away from it all in fairness.. Depending how this pans out i may have a crack at it with my local side Larkhall Thistle...Any chance of some kits for them at all? Keep up the good work m8 i for one wiil be keeping an eye on this!!! Sure I'll be able to make some kits up for you as and when the DB is sorted! 2 hours ago, phnompenhandy said: Oooohhh, magnificent! Yes, I really enjoyed your work last year - can't wait for this. I hope against hope that this one will be compatible with the Level 23 English file; if not I'll be having it anyway I'm hoping it will. Learnt a lot about merging and using multiple files last year, hopefully it should be compatible with most other custom DBs. 1 hour ago, cel1234 said: Great news on Lowland Leagues squads can't we actually get them into the game. SI asked a couple of years ago according to the Scottish researcher, but didn't get any success. The League have been nothing short of brilliant with me though, really helpful. Fingers crossed it'll happen for FM19. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdsoul Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 I use this every year its superb. Must remember to amend the "allow B team to be promoted" before i start a save this year.. doh! (i had a b team for rangers and they are stuck in the EoS league) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cel1234 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Very strange probably cos its not an out of the box playable league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 Slightly related side note... As a result of my work on this, I'm now doing some work with the Lowland League, including match previews for the website. Who said being an FM editor was anti-social? http://slfl.co.uk/slfl-preview-matchday-12/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 49 minutes ago, Morrissey said: Slightly related side note... As a result of my work on this, I'm now doing some work with the Lowland League, including match previews for the website. Who said being an FM editor was anti-social? http://slfl.co.uk/slfl-preview-matchday-12/ Very nice - bookmarked! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
podunkboy Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Oh, boy, can't wait - my first FM attempt was in Scotland, so there's always an annual Scotland save. And I see my boys at Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavelberry Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I love you @Morrissey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpole Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I love seeing people creating whole league structure from the bottom. Even though I probably won't use your file in my savegame - I'm impressed because I know from creating polish lower leagues how time consuming and frustrating this can be. KUTGW ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cel1234 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I think SI should give you job as Scottish Lowland League HR then we will have Lowland League in FM maybe in winter update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 9 hours ago, Wavelberry said: I love you @Morrissey. Shucks! Cheers pal. 5 hours ago, cel1234 said: I think SI should give you job as Scottish Lowland League HR then we will have Lowland League in FM maybe in winter update. I guess it depends if enough people care about this level...the proof will be in the download numbers. I'd happily help out if asked though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavelberry Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 One question I do have is about reputations etc. Last year Wick were expected to win the title and nothing I did with rep etc or chairman seemed to get that expectation down and given how average they are atm... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 Just now, Wavelberry said: One question I do have is about reputations etc. Last year Wick were expected to win the title and nothing I did with rep etc or chairman seemed to get that expectation down and given how average they are atm... Funnily enough, I have a fix for that... I can use the expectations part of the Highland League in the DB to try and balance it out. However, make some decent signings and it'll put the pressure on! I suspect Cove will be well ahead strength-wise mind you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavelberry Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Morrissey said: Funnily enough, I have a fix for that... I can use the expectations part of the Highland League in the DB to try and balance it out. However, make some decent signings and it'll put the pressure on! I suspect Cove will be well ahead strength-wise mind you. Good-o and I won't be making any signings. It's not the Wavelberry Wick Way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 Got the first version of my logopack finished up...link in the 2nd post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cel1234 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 On 26/10/2017 at 19:05, Morrissey said: Shucks! Cheers pal. I guess it depends if enough people care about this level...the proof will be in the download numbers. I'd happily help out if asked though. Ask them mate everyone likes a scottish game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburnsdundeemad Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Excellent to see you back again for yet another year Morrissey, and to hear about your extracurricular activities with the lowland league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivs Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 @Morrissey are you planning to adapt the kits created once the new template will be available? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share Posted October 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ivs said: @Morrissey are you planning to adapt the kits created once the new template will be available? I was, but then had a nosey at FM-View and saw they have already made the Highland, Lowland and EoS kits using their FB template...it looks great IMO! Think I'll just use those (assuming they make the juniors again like last season). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivs Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Oh, understood. Yeah, FB kitmakers create lots of scottish shirts every season, so you have the chance to save time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share Posted October 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ivs said: Oh, understood. Yeah, FB kitmakers create lots of scottish shirts every season, so you have the chance to save time I mean, if there was demand for the standard ones I'd get round to them at some point. Time is the main factor though, lots of advanced editing involved with this file (as well as adding players), then my 2nd project I'm planning is a Catalan DB... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivs Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Unfortunately I'm a FM Touch player, so I'm not able to appreciate your superb work, but I really liked to use your standard kits the last two seasons you created them. Anyway I perfectly understood your project priorities, so don't worry. Keep up the good work! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Great work. Sadly due to the RL problems with having a Pyramid this cannot be epic with getting a side from Central Division 2 to the SPL Oh well, Still its fantastic work, I'm doing a fantasy Scotland Version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Also will you be adding the North Caledonian League? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share Posted October 29, 2017 18 minutes ago, oche balboa said: Also will you be adding the North Caledonian League? Not sure either way - it would slot in easily below the Highland, but would also be kind of useless having a 10 game season with no promotion or relegation for an FM season. I'll definitely add the detail for the clubs though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 3 hours ago, oche balboa said: Great work. Sadly due to the RL problems with having a Pyramid this cannot be epic with getting a side from Central Division 2 to the SPL Oh well, Still its fantastic work, I'm doing a fantasy Scotland Version. It's the fantasy version with a route from the very depths all the way up the pyramid that I need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 We 12 minutes ago, phnompenhandy said: It's the fantasy version with a route from the very depths all the way up the pyramid that I need. Well i'm setting up something soon. Dont want to hijack this thread about it. Will create a topic this week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share Posted November 2, 2017 Got another couple of weekend previews up on the website for those who may be interested! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixPointer Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 On 19/10/2017 at 18:34, Morrissey said: Back again for another year! Instead of doing 2 different DBs this time, I've put all my efforts into one real-life DB going all the way down to the bottom of the junior ranks. Also, it always annoyed me playing in the Lowland League with no real players when the Highland League had full squads...so I've been watching various games and working with some of the clubs to make real squad lists this season! A huge thank you is owed to the SLFL's media man Michael Park, as well as representatives from Cumbernauld Colts, Edusport Academy, Uni of Stirling and BSC Glasgow for their help with this. I'll add more info as we get closer to the release, but here's a brief change list: Addition of all leagues in the SFA pyramid, as well as the SJFA ranks underneath and relevant cups Lowland Squads added to complement the Highland League's detail level Managers added at all playable levels Cups corrected to work as they do IRL, mainly the Scottish Cup seeing changes Graphics pack for logos (all teams and leagues), and kits (Highland, Lowland and a few others) Working playoffs at every level (including the seperate strands of the SJFA) *PENDING* Junior league reconstruction after season 2017/18, as will happen in real life This saw over 10k downloads last year, hoping to get even better this time around. This is ready for full play on fm18 when it's released on the 10th? Fantastic stuff be screaming out for this!! Being Scottish I love the idea of taking my local junior side job and either leading them to glory or starting at a real life level and then becoming Scotland manager. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjaferrie Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 The best Scottish expansion pack around, looking forward to this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
53bast1an Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 On 20.10.2017 at 16:20, phnompenhandy said: Oooohhh, magnificent! Yes, I really enjoyed your work last year - can't wait for this. I hope against hope that this one will be compatible with the Level 23 English file; if not I'll be having it anyway I'm sharing this hope. The english and scottish files are making lots of fun and I really enjoy them. Looking forward it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffle Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Wish I saw this before I started playing. I would have waited Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 11 hours ago, SixPointer said: This is ready for full play on fm18 when it's released on the 10th? Fantastic stuff be screaming out for this!! Being Scottish I love the idea of taking my local junior side job and either leading them to glory or starting at a real life level and then becoming Scotland manager. Thanks I’ll have it (the first version at least) ready to download next Saturday at some point...can’t wait to get a hold of the editor! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RampantFM Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 58 minutes ago, Morrissey said: I’ll have it (the first version at least) ready to download next Saturday at some point...can’t wait to get a hold of the editor! Amazing work @Morrissey. I'll be sure to lead people to your database if anyone asks for Scottish full pyramid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirklander Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 On 26/10/2017 at 01:30, phnompenhandy said: Very nice - bookmarked! very nice grtz pal ,also bookmarked also Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 Right folks, opinions needed... There are very strong rumours going around (spoken about on BBC Radio Scotland yesterday) that Rangers and Celtic will have B teams accepted into the pyramid from next season - looking like the Lowland League would be their destination, given that 16 teams make up the league compared to the Highland's 18. When I'm sorting the league reconstruction for season 2018/19, do I go ahead and put the old firm colts into the Lowland as well, or wait for something official to be announced? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavelberry Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 I would wait for the official announcement if it were me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 I'm a fantasist me, so i'd say go for it. How many promotions would they be permitted? All the way up to the Championship? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humbby Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 I Would wait untill its confirmed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjaferrie Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 1 hour ago, phnompenhandy said: I'm a fantasist me, so i'd say go for it. How many promotions would they be permitted? All the way up to the Championship? League one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavelberry Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 As an footballing aside I think its a terrible idea that the SFA are going to allow this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
53bast1an Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Perhaps it's possible to offer both versions? I like to play realistic but I also like using B-Teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 Tell you what, unless confirmed I’ll make a separate file including them and a promotion route from the juniors to the seniors, best of both worlds! Agree on the point that it’s a bad idea, but it is inevitable unfortunately (next season or later). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdsoul Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 On 11/5/2017 at 14:58, Morrissey said: Right folks, opinions needed... There are very strong rumours going around (spoken about on BBC Radio Scotland yesterday) that Rangers and Celtic will have B teams accepted into the pyramid from next season - looking like the Lowland League would be their destination, given that 16 teams make up the league compared to the Highland's 18. When I'm sorting the league reconstruction for season 2018/19, do I go ahead and put the old firm colts into the Lowland as well, or wait for something official to be announced? I do that with Rangers/Cambursang Rangers anyway... saves me an edit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavelberry Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 5 hours ago, Morrissey said: Tell you what, unless confirmed I’ll make a separate file including them and a promotion route from the juniors to the seniors, best of both worlds! Agree on the point that it’s a bad idea, but it is inevitable unfortunately (next season or later). Probably the best bet as I will want to live in a world without the B teams. I bet this is Malky's fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted November 7, 2017 SI Staff Share Posted November 7, 2017 Looking forward to playing with this. Will be starting a Gala Fairydean save. Top work Morrissey. And looking forward to B-Teams being part of the pyramid. Will be great for young player development if they do it properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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