scott MUFC Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Hazard.. we are linked with Mane and Mahrez oh an Zlatan Aguero is good, but he is no Martial Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Aguero isn't the best player in the league. You have to stay healthy to claim that title. He gets hurt way too often. Even if he was healthy, it is obviously Chris Smalling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Aguero has been one of the deciding factor in 2 of the last 4 titles, doesn't matter if you're only fit 75% of the time if that's enough. Since Hazard has fallen off a cliff this season for some reason he's the only candidate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I think Silva is probably just as important to that side and he has been more durable till this year. Toure pretty key too, but he doesn't get the nod bc he needs birthday cake to play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Aguero is still the better player. Besides, Silva isn't all that more durable than Aguero, he's got 4 more appearances than Aguero during the time they've both been at City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Hard to argue about Aguero. Just think he isn't durable. You can't impact a match when you are hurt. Having said that, Rooney hasn't missed a match this year, but... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Silva, Aguero and Hazard are the best 3 players in the league. I'd say Ozil 4th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 Who's the greatest player in the Premier League? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akura Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 jonny evans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Mike Smalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Definitely Gabby Agbonlahor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradz FM Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Hazard has fallen off a cliff alright but Aguero hasn't been great when he was fit this season if you disregard his 5 goal game which masks that he scored 1 in 6/7 games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Yes, but he scored 5 goals in a game so disregarding it is ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Linked with Ayoze Perez. Spends more time holding his face like he's been hit by Mike Tyson than actually playing football from what I've seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Sure I read a while back we were looking at him last season. Seems a good player. We could do with more options up front. Be nice to see what Wilson can do before we throw money at people though, look at what Lingard has done and consider Wilson is much more talented. I'm one of those who didn't rate Lingard all that highly a few years back, so it's great to see him breaking through now. Was amusing to see him criticised for "not having an end product" a couple weeks back, though, when that has been one of his strong suits for years. I do rate Wilson, however, so hopefully won't be proven wrong there too. Think he needs a loan where he plays more often than not, though. Hasn't impressed in the few chances he got for United so far, so he may need to take the usual route of loans for a few years before being able to break through. Just hope he makes it, because he is very talented, with a great finish and excellent speed. The biggest "what could have been, sigh" (besides Pogba) is Ravel Morrison. Probably the biggest talent I've seen in the youth team. Such a shame that he wasn't there at all mentally, and was more interested in hanging out with his thuggish friends than doing what was necessary to become a world beater. Almost single-handedly won us the FA Youth Cup back in 2010-11, in a team with Paul Pogba, Jesse Lingard and Will Keane, plus a host of other talented kids. Just goes to show that talent alone isn't enough. Think he's in Italy now, having left every previous club on bad terms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorg Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I finally caught up with the second part of the Class of '92 programme last night. How is Sadiq El Fitouri viewed at Man Utd? Does he have a chance of making it? I notice he has played three games for Libya. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 No-hoper I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradz FM Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Yes, but he scored 5 goals in a game so disregarding it is ridiculous. So Hazard is 1 game away from being back to himself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 So Hazard is 1 game away from being back to himself Yeah, if he scores 5 in a match I'd say so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorg Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 No-hoper I'm afraid. That is a shame. Do you think it was a bit of a publicity stunt at the time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Perhaps, or maybe just Phil Neville getting a bit over-excited about his new toys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Lol at trevormac and dion's exchanges! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Valencia out for 5 fecking months. Just when he was playing something approaching close to maybe not just above average. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 yea from an injury picked up in the derby. roll on January window Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 The ONLY decent thing about him is that he was a tank and never picked up injuries. If he's going to get get injured regularly, get rid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 He got an operation on his left leg didn't he? Hope when it heals, he gets to use it more often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 Somehow I completely missed Valenica getting injured. Hope he recovers ok, then probably time for him to go in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 10 goals in 14 games for Leverkusen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren24 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Manchester United announce record first-quarter revenue Manchester United are on course to become the first club to make more than £500m in a year, according to their latest financial results released today.United's total revenue for the three months to the end of this September was £123.6 million, an increase of 39% on the same period in 2014. The club's revenues were boosted by the launch of their sponsorship deal with Adidas, which is worth a minimum of £750m over ten years, and the Red Devils' return to the Champions League. Champions League football also contributed to a rise of 64.3 per cent in broadcasting revenue and a rise of 64.2 per cent in matchday revenue. The figure for EBITDA - which reflects the underlying profitability of the company - was up more than 100 per cent to £41.6m. Ed Woodward, Executive Vice Chairman, commented, "Our record first quarter revenues and EBITDA demonstrate the continued strength of our businesses. "We are delighted with the early progress made in licensing. During the quarter we entered into an agreement with HCL to be our Digital Transformation partner, which will enable us to connect with our fans around the world in innovative ways and further strengthen and grow our commercial revenues." Would love to see the comparison in our wage bill from this time last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Great to see him have success there. He would not have such numbers for us though. Disappointing to read Valencia will be out that long. Saw he had a surgery, but didn't know it was that serious. Should have been hooked off right away against City I guess. Hope he makes a full recovery. He has turned into a good and versatile (?) squad member. Won't and shouldn't be a starter, but if he's fine with his role, I'm fine with having him for a few more years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Yeah. Who needs a goalscorer in the box getting on the end of things when we have Rooney, eh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Great to see him have success there. He would not have such numbers for us though. Why wouldn't he? He's a much better forward than Rooney currently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Would love to see the comparison in our wage bill from this time last year. I just read that it increased by 9m or something like that, partly due to bonuses with CL football. Despite the massive increase, our debt goes up and the leeches take out yet more money. But yeah, let's all kiss their feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Why wouldn't he? He's a much better forward than Rooney currently. Firstly, because he wouldn't get that many matches, certainly as a starter, because he doesn't fit into the system LVG uses. Also because United hasn't exactly produced heaps and heaps of chances, so no matter who we'd put up there they wouldn't score for fun. And because Chicharito is best in a two-striker system, like Leverkusen use, and again that is not something LVG prefers. Okay, he often plays with Rooney and Martial, but they don't play as a somewhat typical front two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Why wouldn't he? He's a much better forward than Rooney currently. Because a) He would never get picked ahead and b) we do not create as many open chances as Leverkusen. We have a pretty high chance conversion, but terrible chance creation rate. EDIT: FFS Pan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 What does the debt stand at now? And what are they interest payments that we make each year? Doesn't the club have enough to just pay off the loan now? Surely that would be the sensible option. Obviously there are people involved in the club that know a lot more about this than me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Because a) He would never get picked ahead and b) we do not create as many open chances as Leverkusen. We have a pretty high chance conversion, but terrible chance creation rate.EDIT: FFS Pan Rooney's awful level of performance contributes to the low chance creation though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Martial play a great through ball to our striker who didn't get close to it? If only we had someone who would have... But yeah, no chances created. Hard playing balls through to no one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 Rooney's awful level of performance contributes to the low chance creation though. Exactly this. If we had a half decent striker up there instead of Rooney we might actually create a bit more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 What does the debt stand at now? And what are they interest payments that we make each year?Doesn't the club have enough to just pay off the loan now? Surely that would be the sensible option. Obviously there are people involved in the club that know a lot more about this than me. Went up from £380m to £420m as of May 2015 although the difference is supposedly available to the club. Interest bill is £13m per annum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 We could be playing like Barcelona and Chica would still be fluffing chances left right and centre for us. He doesn't deal with pressure well, he's found some where were he's confident and good on him. Man Utd need someone different anyway. The criteria is slightly narrower than 'not Rooney'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Dealt with the pressure fine in the title decider!! Chelsea game where he slotted the ball away in the first few minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 And he's been getting progressively worse ever since he arrived, it's why he wasn't even useful as a supersub towards the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 A player in and out the team doesn't perform to his best shocker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Exactly, and when he was in the team he wasn't consistently good enough, so he was dropped and he wasn't mentally strong enough to deal with it. That's not a slight on him, not many players are. Hernandez has found his level, you should be happy to see him doing well for himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Martial play a great through ball to our striker who didn't get close to it?If only we had someone who would have... But yeah, no chances created. Hard playing balls through to no one. Chicha would've been offside or the ball would have rebounded off his foot into our own half. Revisionism at its best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 BSD http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34800333 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 "But in my team he(Chicha) would always play. He was an undisputed starter before and player of the year at United. He can get you 20, 30 goals a season." - BSD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 And that's why he's a goalkeeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 10 goals in 14 games for Leverkusen. Not that I think he should have necessarily been sold, but the Bundesliga is a shoddy example. For context this feller's got 10 in 12 playing in the same league: What does the debt stand at now? And what are they interest payments that we make each year?Doesn't the club have enough to just pay off the loan now? Surely that would be the sensible option. Obviously there are people involved in the club that know a lot more about this than me. Nah. The debt is rather cheap iirc so it makes sense to invest or create a buffer for a lean spell. Outlandish dividends notwithstanding of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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