Insipidus Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 So you think its ok to go out and get pissed out of your head 2 nights before a big game? considering it will affect your performance in training and your preparation for the game? well, every day is basically "two days before a big game" or maybe three. hes a human being, not a machine. more pertinent is the fact that hes just not good enough for us, and its nothing to do with him being a bit boozey a few days before a match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRJ Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Where have you got that he was pissed out of his head from? Certainly a step up from having a night out like you said in the last post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falahk Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 So you think its ok to go out and get pissed out of your head 2 nights before a big game? considering it will affect your performance in training and your preparation for the game?as long as he does not have a bad hangover while he is playing and give himself a full day to recover from the drinking I honestly dont see the problem with it, if he goes out the night before a big game it could be problematic thought Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted February 22, 2013 Author Share Posted February 22, 2013 I see we a back to writing 20 year olds off again... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falahk Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I see we a back to writing 20 year olds off again...its hendo/lucas all over again from the regular lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I for one never slagged off Henderson or Lucas, so my conscience is clear Shelvey has almost always looked subpar though. He's 21 next week too btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I for one never slagged off Henderson or Lucas, so my conscience is clear I will feel the same when everyone changes their mind on Joe Allen..........and they will . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falahk Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I will feel the same when everyone changes their mind on Joe Allen..........and they will .Aquilani > Allen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Aquilani is probably better on the day. Unfortunately he's a sick note sack of crap and his day never comes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Aquilani ***** on Allen. Not just "on his day," but any day. Ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 No, he doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Could you imagine Torres * best years * alongside the Suarez we currently have?Magical. Would have been amazing. I'm probably well in the minority here, but I think Torres still has it, he's just one of those players that must have the right environment. We provided him with it, then took it away from him. At Chelsea he's never had it. Seems like he just needs a completely new start somewhere with people who value him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Also, fwiw, I think Rodgers can probably improve every player we've got, and I wouldn't be writing off anyone on the basis of poor performances who's under 24 or so. I'm baffled supporters of this club still do it tbh considering the improvement we've seen from some of them. Even Sterling has gotten some 'overrated' stick and the like - the kid is 17? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne'o Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 dare i say it but our next 4 games all look winnable, was amazed with the game against Zenit Thursday, shame we never got any thing from the away leg, shows how important a draw could have been in that game... According to the stats Liverpool have once again had more shots this season than any team in Europe, We certainly dominate a lot of games that we don't take maximum points from. When you look at player ages it seem's it's our Defense that will need to be changed before any other area. will we see a new back 5 by the end of 2015? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 dare i say it but our next 4 games all look winnable You could say that about every game we have left from now until the end of the season really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 There's probably only about 5 games this season where we've been outfought and outplayed. The rest we've dominated and put in pretty solid performances; it's just the defending and getting that one goal to win it that's let us down massively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 On paper, our back 5 is amazing. If I was starting to rebuild from the back, I would personally go for a GK and see how that goes. Sometimes feel we are shaky at the back because they have lost faith in Reina. Lucas being back has strengthened us again and it really is individual errors which cost us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 theres really no excuse now for these last 11 games. nothing left to concentrate on but the league, this run in should be a good pointer to how we will fair next season with all our 'harder' games coming at home, an aspiring top four team should look to at least go unbeaten. if individual errors keep coming then it just shows me that these players arent good enough and should be replaced, be it any of our first choice back 5. they've all had their moments this season and its just not good enough to keep gifting goals away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martplfc1 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Amazing is pushing it a little imo. It's good, but far too error prone to be amazing, even if Reina wasn't so chocolate fire guard these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
niggle Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Thank you grant holt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 On paper, our back 5 is amazing. The only paper your back 5 should be on is toilet paper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 On paper, our back 5 is amazing. You what now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Enrique and Johnson are amazing. The rest are a bit rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 enrique has been an absolute liability at times though. both great going forward but if theyre to stay then we need someone more mobile than lucas to protect the defence cos we've been destroyed by counter attacks at points this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Enrique hasn't, and that's more to do with tactics than the fullbacks themselves. Two centre backs and a defensive midfielder should deal with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Enrique is not an amazing left back by any stretch, that was demonstrated by the fact that he played on left wing while Downing filled in for him. Our best full back combo for next season should be Johnson at LB and hopefully an improved Wisdom at RB. We should be grooming Kelly for a CB role, but need someone else to hold the back steady in the meantime. I'd happily keep Agger but we need someone to at least give competition to Skrtel, if not to replace him completely. On form I'd keep Carragher but I don't think he'd last another season at the level he's shown since he came back into the side. In midfield I'd be happier with someone to play alongside Lucas in a 4-2-3-1 but not necessarily as a 'defensive' midfielder. We need a better passer, someone to be what Joe Allen is supposed to be. I'm open to the options we've got at the moment, and I wouldn't be surprised if Henderson develops into that role. He's improved massively in the last year, he's quick thinking, hard working and his technique is getting better all the time. Unless we can get Alonso back I'd rather not spend any more money on a midfielder, seeing as we've spent £25m on Coutinho and Allen recently. As someone said earlier keeping Suarez is going to be the key, and the relationship between him and Sturridge is only going to get better. If we can give Gerrard the right role next year we'll have a goal scoring midfielder and two prolific strikers, and that should give us a shot at something good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 You're suggesting Wisdom is better than Enrique, which is just ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Enrique has massive brain farts in possession at times and his positioning in an attacking sense has always been rubbish. Both detract from him otherwise being pretty great. If he could improve on his decision making he really would be top notch, but it'll probably always let him down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 You're suggesting Wisdom is better than Enrique, which is just ridiculous. Not at the moment, but I think he'll overtake him next season. Enrique has had some great moments and performances this season, but he negates them by doing something stupid. He's the embodiment of everything the team needs to be rid of if we're going to kick on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 The last time Enrique did something really stupid, must be some time around August. He has been absolute giant for months now and has really kicked on after his dip in form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Hang on, people are adding Agger to the rubbish list now? I give up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Hang on, people are adding Agger to the rubbish list now?I give up. Errrm, no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Not at the moment, but I think he'll overtake him next season. Enrique has had some great moments and performances this season, but he negates them by doing something stupid. He's the embodiment of everything the team needs to be rid of if we're going to kick on. NO. Enrique had a bad spell but recently has performed excellently and is still one of the top LB in Europe IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 NO. Enrique had a bad spell but recently has performed excellently and is still one of the top LB in Europe IMO. Really?? You really actually think that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Enrique is an Ox. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 The last time Enrique did something really stupid, must be some time around August. He has been absolute giant for months now and has really kicked on after his dip in form. He did about 4 stupid things alone on Thursday night and he had an absolute mare against West Brom last week. He makes dumb mistakes at regular intervals in matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Enrique is the best LB we've had for a long time. Konchesky, Insua, Dossena, Aurelio, Traore, Riise, Carragher Don't know what people are expecting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Really?? You really actually think that? Really, I am a Chelsea fan btw, so no bias views. When I watch him I think he is outstanding and physically one of the best LB around and his general play is excellent. I reckon right now he is better than Cole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudester Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 One thing which I have always been critical of Enrique is at times he relies on his phyiscal aspects so much he gets himself in trouble positionally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Aurelio >>>>>>>>>> Enrique. Forget the times he broke a fingernail, when he was fit he was ****ing awesome. Just saw you mentioned Riise too, he was also better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 One thing which I have always been critical of Enrique is at times he relies on his phyiscal aspects so much he gets himself in trouble positionally. He does, but he can generally retrieve a situation. He can overplay it sometimes, but its more sympton of the change in tactics and knowing when NOT to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 Aurelio >>>>>>>>>> Enrique. Forget the times he broke a fingernail, when he was fit he was ****ing awesome.Just saw you mentioned Riise too, he was also better. Except, for THAT diving header. Funny how quickly we can forget that most players are prone to moments of sheer madness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 You've picked out one moment of madness in 4 seasons Enrique does one per game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 More nonsense from Daftprat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Riise made defensive mistakes, some extremely costly, and from left back wasn't great with assists and was pushed forward in to midfield a lot as a result. I loved him dearly (release the kraken!) but Enrique is better. Aurelio was also no defensive god, and the injuries also contribute towards him not being rated as any good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshyboy1984 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Aurelio > Riise 2002-2005 > Enrique >>>>> Riise 2005 onwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 More nonsense from Daftprat. I'm not the one with the reputation as the biggest **** on the forums. hth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshyboy1984 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 God I'd love a fit 26-year old Aurelio in this team. Talk about playing out from the back with composure. Fabio took the **** with that. Beautiful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 And he was like a left footed Suarez from free kicks. I loved that man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshyboy1984 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 :*) handsome too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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