SRL88 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 And we used 3 different keepers in the tournament. Scott Carson and Chris Kirkland . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 We're not getting Gylfi are we? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 We're not getting Gylfi are we? That is all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebirds4life Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I think Bellamy will come back home soon, hope he can play like he did for you last season, tended to try too hard when playing for us 10/11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 Will he join a club with no manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 When is the third kit due to be released anybody know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 We're not getting Gylfi are we? We better!!! Where has this talk came from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 Daily Fail is reporting Spurs are after him too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Yeah I read they were linked with him, but nothing concrete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martplfc1 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Looks dead cert according to Bbc sport. Quite worrying considering they don't even have a manager! Shows how far weve fallen. Unless they just offered him shitloads or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Modric replacement? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSC Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 RAWK is quite a special place isnt it? Been tracking this Sigurdsson thing on that and some spurs ITK sites to gather any info and RAWKs transfer thread has gone into melt down! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martplfc1 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 I'm hoping it means aqua man is staying! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonus1010 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 The bad comedy that is Liverpool Football Club continues, player has all but signed for a slightly better team but has no manager. Lets face it, Spurs have a better squad so have a better chance of winning things than us. The truth hurts i'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Modric replacement? They are totally different players. Modric is like Alonso, Xavi or Pirlo, Sigurdsson is like VdV, Iniesta or Gerrard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 They are totally different players. Modric is like Alonso, Xavi or Pirlo, Sigurdsson is like VdV, Iniesta or Gerrard. Both play in the middle of the park no? (which is what I was getting at) Selling one type of striker and bringing in a different type of striker would still be a replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperclips Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 The bad comedy that is Liverpool Football Club continues, player has all but signed for a slightly better team but has no manager. Lets face it, Spurs have a better squad so have a better chance of winning things than us. The truth hurts i'm afraid. HEY! What did Tottenham win last season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonus1010 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 HEY! What did Tottenham win last season? " Spurs have a better squad so have a better chance of winning things than us " We both have little chance of winning anything next season. The league pubteam cup not worth a hoot in my eyes but if i was putting my own money on a team to win something, i would have to choose Spurs over my beloved 'Pool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert the Spud Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Surprised to be honest, considering the rodgers connection and also that he's be instant starter in your team. Not sure where he's gonna play with Bale, VdV and Lennon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Both play in the middle of the park no? (which is what I was getting at)Selling one type of striker and bringing in a different type of striker would still be a replacement. Sigurdsson plays behind the striker whereas Modric plays deep and makes play tick over. Sigurdsson hasn't played central midfield since he was in Reading's reserves and even then Jem Karacan or Greg Halford had to carry him defensively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Not really that bothered. It would be nice to have him, but theres always others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Yeah, more players we'll be beaten to whilst we dither like a bunch of *****. We need to sort ourselves out, can't stand what this club has turned into over the last 2 seasons. Rafa had us reaching for the stars, now we're nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Rafa had us reaching for the stars, now we're nothing. Some people cannot see a priest on a mountain of sugar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Looks dead cert according to Bbc sport. Quite worrying considering they don't even have a manager! Shows how far weve fallen. Unless they just offered him shitloads or something. Apparently we offered the same wages that agreed to while at Swansea but spurs have come in and offered him a lot more money. Spurs have a few very good players but a lot of the squad needs rebuilding old golkeepers, need a striker, king is supposed to retire, modrik leaving and edebayour returning back to city not to mention they have a strict wage structure and haven't spent big in last few seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Will be gutted if he doesn't sign now tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benkeat Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 yeah i'll be crushed if he doesn't sign. he's the new zidane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Isn't that what Houllier said about Bruno Cheyrou? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdyTaylor Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Was having a discussion with mate yesterday about how I hope Siggy doesn't sign for you as don't want to see him ruined as a footballer. This led me on to argue that there are VERY few examples of players signing for Liverpool and having their reputations enhanced. There are many many recent examples of high profile players that have joined and gone drastically down hill in their time at the club Any views from you lot as to why this might be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Isn't that what Houllier said about Bruno Cheyrou? Bad times, bad times!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustygator Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Was having a discussion with mate yesterday about how I hope Siggy doesn't sign for you as don't want to see him ruined as a footballer. This led me on to argue that there are VERY few examples of players signing for Liverpool and having their reputations enhanced. There are many many recent examples of high profile players that have joined and gone drastically down hill in their time at the clubAny views from you lot as to why this might be? Only Xabi, Torres, Masch; probably three of the best at their positions in the PL in recent memory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Was having a discussion with mate yesterday about how I hope Siggy doesn't sign for you as don't want to see him ruined as a footballer. This led me on to argue that there are VERY few examples of players signing for Liverpool and having their reputations enhanced. There are many many recent examples of high profile players that have joined and gone drastically down hill in their time at the clubAny views from you lot as to why this might be? What a load of crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Johnson, Reina, Agger, Skrtel, Lucas off the top of my head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Care to give some examples Ady? How do you define high profile? A lot of our kids didn't make it, but they're not high profile. I can think of Keane, Morientes, Babel, Diouf as high profile players who didn't improve with us, but theres reasons for all of them. The first two were already past their peak, the second two were headcases. Reina Finnan Johnson Arbeloa Skrtel Agger Riise Aurelio Mascherano Alonso Lucas Garcia Benayoun Crouch Torres Baros All examples of high profile players signing for Liverpool over the past 10 years and kicking on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 The best examples he'll give will be Downing, Carroll and Adam, and they don't remotely count. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
niggle Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Was having a discussion with mate yesterday about how I hope Siggy doesn't sign for you as don't want to see him ruined as a footballer. This led me on to argue that there are VERY few examples of players signing for Liverpool and having their reputations enhanced. There are many many recent examples of high profile players that have joined and gone drastically down hill in their time at the clubAny views from you lot as to why this might be? ha ha comedy gold Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Care to give some examples Ady? How do you define high profile? A lot of our kids didn't make it, but they're not high profile. I can think of Keane, Morientes, Babel, Diouf as high profile players who didn't improve with us, but theres reasons for all of them. The first two were already past their peak, the second two were headcases. Reina Finnan Johnson Arbeloa Skrtel Agger Riise Aurelio Mascherano Alonso Lucas Garcia Benayoun Crouch Torres Baros All examples of high profile players signing for Liverpool over the past 10 years and kicking on. I'm really, REALLY not going to get into this (nor do I agree with the original point) but at least half of these can barely be called particularly 'high profile' at the time of joining Liverpool? Not that I'd call Sig particularly high profile either. So again, this is not to partake in this nonsensical point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Depends what you'd call "high profile". You could say the same really then for 99% of clubs. Who would you say Man Utd signed as a high profile player recently under the same criteria? VdS, RvN, and perhaps Berbatov. Really can't think of many others. e: Case could probably be made for Rooney and Ferdinand, but again, depends on what you'd call "high profile". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Depends what you'd call "high profile". You could say the same really then for 99% of clubs. Who would you say Man Utd signed as a high profile player recently under the same criteria? VdS, RvN, and perhaps Berbatov. Really can't think of many others.e: Case could probably be made for Rooney and Ferdinand, but again, depends on what you'd call "high profile". Probably wouldn't call many others high profile tbf. Some of them might be high profile transfers simply due to the club/fee involved (De Gea, Nani/Anderson, Jones) but there's not really many high profile players that I can recall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Actually, SSN's deleted post (super mod powers: activate) has a point as I misread the original post a bit. The point was indeed about any players joining Liverpool and improving with many cases of high profile players going down hill. I mashed that together into it only being about high profile players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Was going to say it wasn't about high profile players joining. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperclips Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Care to give some examples Ady? How do you define high profile? A lot of our kids didn't make it, but they're not high profile. I can think of Keane, Morientes, Babel, Diouf as high profile players who didn't improve with us, but theres reasons for all of them. The first two were already past their peak, the second two were headcases. Reina Finnan Johnson Arbeloa Skrtel Agger Riise Aurelio Mascherano Alonso Lucas Garcia Benayoun Crouch Torres Baros All examples of high profile players signing for Liverpool over the past 10 years and kicking on. Think only Torres was our high profile player before joining us. Shows how well we have made them other players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdyTaylor Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 I wasn't talking abou the signing of players that were already at the top of their game....although as an Athletico fan I would argue Torres joined Liverpool a more effective player than he left...I was talking about players joining Liverpool and not making that next step - something I'd hate to see happen to Siggy due to his Reading connections Poulson Adam Aquilani Babel Riera etc Does tend to be midfielders that seem to struggle to fit in - I was wondering whetehr this has something to do with playing alongside Gerrard, kind of like how he and Lampard struggle to play together Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Aquilani and Riera Poulson was ****. Adam is ****. Babel is a moron. Next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted June 27, 2012 Author Share Posted June 27, 2012 Poulsen was about 112 years old. Adam and Riera are limited as footballers IMO Aqualani seemingly homesick Babel simply didn't develop on his potential. There is no underlying reason if that's what you mean. Sometimes it happens. For all of those examples, you have players like Alonso, Agger, Lucas (especially this guy) who improved massively at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperclips Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 I wasn't talking abou the signing of players that were already at the top of their game....although as an Athletico fan I would argue Torres joined Liverpool a more effective player than he left...I was talking about players joining Liverpool and not making that next step - something I'd hate to see happen to Siggy due to his Reading connectionsPoulson Adam Aquilani Babel Riera etc Does tend to be midfielders that seem to struggle to fit in - I was wondering whetehr this has something to do with playing alongside Gerrard, kind of like how he and Lampard struggle to play together Yeah with out Gerrard, Torres would have been twice the player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdyTaylor Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Torres doesn't play in midfield though does he Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperclips Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Alonso, Masch, Lucas, Riera, Garcia, Hamann seemed to play well with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Alonso, Masch, Lucas, Riera, Garcia, Hamann seemed to play well with him. They don't count for the purpose of his argument though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebirds4life Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Reina - wasn't that high profile at time of signing. Finnan - Signed from a nearly relegated club for 3.5m, yes, well known but again not high profile. Johnson - Fair enough, just about high profile enough despite being at Pompey Arbel - At the time wasn't high profile Skrtel - At the time wasn't what I'd consider high profile either. Agger - 21 year old from Brondby, yes a talent but again not high profile. Riise - Close, but defo not close enough to be a high profile signing Aurelio - Nope, had reputation and was well-known but I wouldn't say high profile. Mascherano - a sub at West Ham, if he'd have done an impact at West Ham I'd say high profile, but he wasn't. Alonso - Border of high profile but still I wouldn't put it past that barrier at that moment in time Lucas - a talented youngster, wasn't high profile Garcia - Close Benayoun - I'd say this was a fairly high profile signing at the time, he was in great form for West Ham and was an exciting signing at the time/ Crouch - Could just about make it Torres - Definately, this is what should be a highprofile signing Baros - No chance So out of that list Glenn J, Torres, Benayoun, perhaps Crouch, Alonso + Garcia. I'd say Diouf was a high profile signing too, at the time he was one of Africa's big talents and a 10 sum was paid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 I'd say Diouf was a high profile signing too, at the time he was one of Africa's big talents and a 10 sum was paid And to think, we could have signed Anelka for the same price . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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