DeafParrot Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Finnan used to be right up there in our assists stats every year iirc, and chipped in with a goal or two. Added to that he was great defensively. Definitely massively underrated. I agree with what foofighter says about Johnson too though, he's much improved at the back. Happy with either at right back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_cote_kid Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Chipped in with a goal or two? You sure about that? Was no doubt a good, solid player, but Glen defo has the edge attacking-wise. I'm sure i remember Finnan being quite **** under Houllier too, used to get a bit of stick from the fans, it may have been because he was playing right-mid though. Rafa brought the best out of him though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted March 31, 2012 Author Share Posted March 31, 2012 yeah sure Finnan only got 1 goal for us (and i think it might have been left footed?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian McFarland Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I definitely remember him scoring one, but I'd be amazed if he got more than 5 in his time with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian McFarland Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 yeah sure Finnan only got 1 goal for us (and i think it might have been left footed?) Yeah, that's the one I'm thinking of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_cote_kid Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 1 goal in 217 appearances. Glen has 6 in 92, all in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted March 31, 2012 Author Share Posted March 31, 2012 tbf he wasnt played in the same attacking way of course Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Nah, Finnan was the better fullback. Solid, he was. Garcia, for all his great goals, was a useless footballer. Always gave it away, he did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1394769/Xabi-Alonso-misses-Liverpool-targets-Anfield-return.html It probably won't ever happen, but if there's a chance in the summer, it's a must. I simply can't have Henderson ******** up the place for another season. Alonso can teach him to be useful as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 that looks like an article from last season, but yeah, would be great to have him back. rafas biggest slip up imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 It is as well. Bloody hell. It was on twitter so I just presumed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Get Gareth Barry instead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRJ Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Some teams can't spell Wembley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Everton above us in the table Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 and arguably favourites for the semi depending on results til then. they absolutely destroyed sunderland the other day in the replay. just noticed we have 3 games that week too so we're screwed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Some teams can't spell Wembley That can't be real, surely? Looks like the Everton shop? No way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 I guess Kenny still being in a job makes sense this morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Just looked at the table and it's horrific. If this is progress then I would rather not progress, thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudester Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Good Luck Sami caretaker boss of Bayer now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Brilliant piece by Dion Fanning: http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/rafas-ghost-haunts-anfield-succession-of-trial-and-error-3067627.html Liverpool are in a tricky position when they argue against short-termism. Not because they sacked Roy Hodgson after six months. If anything, Hodgson's miserabilist reign was indulged for far too long.When Liverpool sacked Rafael Benitez in the summer of 2010, they had finished second in the league a year before and reached the last eight in the Champions League. The act of suicidal impatience when Benitez was fired makes the Roman Abramovich era at Chelsea look like working in placid Switzerland while Benitez tried to get things done under the Borgias. It certainly matches the dismissal of Carlo Ancelotti and, in terms of the damage done to the club, the consequences have been greater. Liverpool overachieved under Benitez. His own highly developed sense of intrigue contributed to his downfall but key players within the club listened to opinion-formers whose opinions had been previously disregarded. They made a persuasive case that Benitez had reached the end of the line. He was a political being and Liverpool was feeding that obsession with politics. For that reason, it was easy to make the case that he should go. There was no case at all for sacking Benitez and replacing him with Roy Hodgson, a sequence of events that has removed Liverpool from the front rank of football and should prevent anyone who put forward this two-point plan as a solution to Liverpool's problems from commenting on the club for some time. If clubs do have a DNA, then Liverpool demonstrated theirs in their rejection of Hodgson. Like a body rejecting an unsuitable organ, Liverpool fans revolted against a man who would laugh on tv at the idea that the club could challenge for the title. Benitez is trying to recover and so are Liverpool. He appeared at the Soccerex conference in Manchester last week when he should really be managing a club in the Champions League. This Bonfire of the Danglers is everything football does badly. Football does self-loathing best of all, especially if the opposite is self-regard and Soccerex is full of self-regard. Benitez was said by many observers to have given an unimpressive seminar. He would be better off sticking to what he does best: obsessively creating football teams that win against the odds. He is not a member of polite society. Like Roy Keane, he has no interest in small talk. He has a bad image in the media but the solution is not to become what he is not and then be criticised for it anyway. He may as well be criticised for things that people don't understand. Somewhere else on the Soccerex complex, Gerard Houllier was also speaking, delivering a talk which nobody could find fault with. Again, we see the point of these carnivals of ********. If you want good seminar, hire Houllier, Andy Roxburgh or Hodgson. If you want to win the European Cup with Djimi Traore or his equivalent, hire Benitez. Benitez needs to become a mythical figure, the JD Salinger of football, somebody who is never seen, certainly never seen sitting on the Soccer Am sofa alongside a member of Snow Patrol. Events at Liverpool since he departed have improved his reputation more than any PR offensive. Things have got so bad this season for Kenny Dalglish that it has led to an attempted upward revision of the Hodgson era. This would make sense if Liverpool fans were happy with League results, but they aren't as the sight of a minority turning on one of the greatest figures in the club's history demonstrates. Liverpool may yet be able to point to two trophies and claim a successful season but the true consequence of this season has been the damage done to Dalglish's reputation, mainly by Dalglish himself. For the greatest player the club had, and a man who has done more than most for the club and the city he loves, this has been a trying season. His handling of the Suarez case was a mess which may have wedded him closer to the hardcore but has also brought a weariness to many on the outside. Liverpool's supporters insist they do not care what others think of their club, all that matters is their own view of Dalglish. Their hysterical reaction whenever anyone does offer a negative opinion suggests that they care quite a lot, like the man who says he is not the jealous type but sits twitching in the corner whenever his girlfriend leaves his side. This has compounded the errors of judgement made in the transfer market. Certainly, Liverpool's purchases last summer were the worst since Gerard Houllier brought in Salif Diao, El-Hadji Diouf and Bruno Cheyrou to Liverpool, even if honourable mention must be made for the summer Benitez signed Alberto Aquilani. Under Dalglish and Damien Comolli, Liverpool adopted a Buy British policy, based around the idea that players from the Premier League would settle quickly. If by settling, you mean revealing their inherent mediocrity, then it is Mission Accomplished. By every other measurement, the policy has failed. The Director of Football Comolli is being set up as a scapegoat. At Tottenham Hotspur, he continued a Buy British policy which was in place when he arrived. Nobody can say for sure when this policy was abandoned but there may have been a subtle revision round about the time Tottenham entered the relegation zone. Some were happy with Liverpool going down this road. "We've got a great togetherness about the squad, there's a lot of British players there now," Jamie Carragher said last October. "We went for a meal out before the derby and it was interesting that my wife could actually talk to some of the other wives without having to think of something in Spanish or French or something different. I think that will be a great thing for us this season." It's heartening that the wives of the new signings have made such a positive impression at the dinner table, because the results on the pitch have been all that could be expected from a self-limiting approach to recruitment. Liverpool had six British players on the pitch when they collapsed at QPR. They started with the same number in last weekend's defeat to Wigan. The new owners have allowed Dalglish to spend. This is to their credit, as is the indisputable fact that they are not Tom Hicks and George Gillett, but at crucial times they, and the managing director Ian Ayre, have been missing. They are able to rectify mistakes of the past. Liverpool have been in turmoil for spells under the last two managers. One was a divisive figure, who inspired loyalty in a strange band of acolytes but was undermined by defects in his character and was accused of being paranoid. The other won the European Cup. Dalglish brought unity which, given all that had gone before, was a spectacular achievement. Now he needs to rectify his own mistakes. He is not entitled to time, no manager is, but patience may be the best way of making up for all that went before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Carragher chosen over Coates again... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRJ Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 I think with Flanagan starting it's probably a better choice to play Carragher rather than Coates. Happy Shelvey has got a start though, deserves a chance after his Blackpool performances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 If that wasn't your definition of 35 million "flop", nothing is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyh21 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 OH dear oh dear oh dear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboydonegood Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 wtf was Skrtel doing so deep ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 come on Liverpool ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Enrique looks lonely without Downing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Just not good enough and the worrying thing is, I don't think we can play any better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Hope Jonjo gets a run of games until the end of the season btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Just sack him. Sack him straight after the game. I don't give a **** about how much it costs, he just has to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboydonegood Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Dalglish just has to go - get rafa back now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Not quite sure why it's even taking this long to sack him. How many **** players and poor performances does Kenny need before being sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 2-0 down, playing awful and theres still zero chance of Kenny bringing on a sub to try to change it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 2-0 down, playing awful and theres still zero chance of Kenny bringing on a sub to try to change it Been thinking all season that he's living in the dark ages with his subs and buys, just generally his over all approach to football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guy From The Sunny Place Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Reina off, Enrique goalie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboydonegood Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 will miss the fa cup semi now though wont he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Bring back Hodgson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 If there was doubts about how far Kenny was out of his depth before today, maybe there aren't any now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpaul15 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Embarrassing. Shambolic. Dire. Insert your own description here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nad Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 He has to go now. Don't even care if he's sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboydonegood Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Have just tweeted JW Henry to say dalglish should go, i think everyone with a twitter account should do so as well in a calm and considered manner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jongi Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 reina stupid there it has to be said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_cote_kid Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Have just tweeted JW Henry to say dalglish should go, i think everyone with a twitter account should do so as well in a calm and considered manner Dickhead..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Enrique with one more save than Reina's made in the past month. Impressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 will miss the fa cup semi now though wont he? Unless it's overturned on appeal. A bit harsh, Perch should've got a red for going down so easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jongi Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Unless it's overturned on appeal. A bit harsh, Perch should've got a red for going down so easily. no chance oft that being overturned Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Going by our summer signings quality so far, Doni in goal is going to be interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
niggle Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 go now kenny before the semi please - this is just a total shambles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northeu Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 At least we are losing with lots of proper British players tho, And Carras wife has someone to talk to, you lot are just Selfish TBH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboydonegood Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Dickhead..... care to expand on your cretinous comment?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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