jack_man Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I heard somewhere that the Zenit St. Petersbourg would never sign a black player because their fans are too racist and the player would just want to leave. So i was wondering if this would be in 09, dont think it will but you never know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHARLIERODD Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Zenit may be racist but FM isn't so there shouldn't really be any problems! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike7077 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 There is no way this would ever be in FM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlipscombe Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 i doubt it would be as it would give 'coverage' if you like to racism - something SI would never do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pina Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Well the have a turk, two koreans and a velezeluan so I don't know where you got the black players thing from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerner Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 There is an Ukranian team that cannot buy black players, I forgot their name. And Hellas Verona had to cancel the signing a black player in 2006 as their fans rioted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack_man Posted October 24, 2008 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 Well the have a turk, two koreans and a velezeluan so I don't know where you got the black players thing from. Not meaning to be rascist but i have never seen a black turk or korean, dont know about venezuala though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 well Venezuela are a South American country, and I have personally never seen a white Venezuelan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie MUFC Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 If this is true, then instead of putting the scenario in FM and giving racism a spotlight, perhaps they should just sort out their fans like every other club and national team should? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerner Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenit_Saint_Petersburg#Current_squad I can't see any venezuelans in there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crap manager Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 eastern europe is stuck in the 1950s, so iwouldnt be surprised if this were true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 well Venezuela are a South American country, and I have personally never seen a white Venezuelan Sorry to break this to you but there is a very large white popualtion in South America Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsk360 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 eastern europe is stuck in the 1950s, so iwouldnt be surprised if this were true i should slap you....have you ever been to every country in eastern europe you mug? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kritik Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 There is an Ukranian team that cannot buy black players, I forgot their name. if you don't remember, better not say anything because I can't prove you wrong and it looks bad for ukrainian football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pina Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenit_Saint_Petersburg#Current_squadI can't see any venezuelans in there. look closer at Danny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerner Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 if you don't remember, better not say anything because I can't prove you wrong and it looks bad for ukrainian football. Karpaty Lviv didn't sign a black player until 2001. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philly_flyer10 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 i doubt it would be as it would give 'coverage' if you like to racism - something SI would never do. What, you mean like a certain spanish club that will only sign players from their region, no of course not, SI would never put that in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I heard somewhere that the Zenit St. Petersbourg would never sign a black player because their fans are too racist and the player would just want to leave. So i was wondering if this would be in 09, dont think it will but you never know Incorrect. Their current manager, Dick Advocaat, said he would have reservations over signing a black player because of fears over fan reaction. It has never been said that the club would NEVER sign a black player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanpersie11 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Dick Advocaat said the fans wouldn't allow him to buy a black player... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/2299242/Zenit-fans-are-racist,-admits-Dick-Advocaat.html As others have said, it shouldn't be in the game as it glorifies racism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bl0u6344 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Racism and having pride in Basque heritage are two different things.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopToffee Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 What, you mean like a certain spanish club that will only sign players from their region, no of course not, SI would never put that in the game. not QUITE the same thing tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kritik Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 eastern europe is stuck in the 1950s, so iwouldnt be surprised if this were true interesting, is everyone as dumb as you are in your country ? Looks like Western Europe is also stuck in the 50's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_football If that's not enough just google "racism in football", you will find tons of articles of fans taunting players in England, Italy, Spain, etc... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 What, you mean like a certain spanish club that will only sign players from their region, no of course not, SI would never put that in the game. That not about race, but tradition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philly_flyer10 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 not QUITE the same thing tbf. Yes it is, I see no difference between them, they are both excluding players based on non footballing matters. Of course the PC brigade will say its worse to exclude based on colour skin rather than where they were born but I see no difference at all. Both are racist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kritik Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Karpaty Lviv didn't sign a black player until 2001. Where's the proof it's due to racist fans ? There are hundreds of clubs where there are no black players. Should all clubs sign one just to prove they are not racist ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philly_flyer10 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 That not about race, but tradition. A racist tradition, if yorkshire can come out of the 20th century then they should too. Football teams were once all white, how would people feel if they stayed all white based on tradition? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelle Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 AFAIK I doesn´t just happen in Russia and the like. Lazio´s more hardcore fans are infamous for not wanting the club to sign black players. And they have succeeded several times. Lazio simply had to cancel transfers or stop negotiations with black players, because some (very powerful) fan groups protested against signing them. So it doesn´t just happen in Eastern Europe. When will the demo be out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerner Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Where's the proof it's due to racist fans ? There are hundreds of clubs where there are no black players. Should all clubs sign one just to prove they are not racist ? Because in his book that player called Edward Anyamkyegh, wrote that he had monkey noises made at him when he was walking down the street, and that he wanted to leave as the fans were generally horrible to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suge Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I think this is why England's black players get booed off the pitch whenever they play in predominantly white countries. I can imagine what it will be like for them when they play Ukraine in Kiev next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saulty2805 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 interesting, is everyone as dumb as you are in your country ? Looks like Western Europe is also stuck in the 50's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_football If that's not enough just google "racism in football", you will find tons of articles of fans taunting players in England, Italy, Spain, etc... Although i live in "western europe", "England" i must say we are some of the worst for racism, so erm....all i can say is, Kritik sorta merked you "crap manager" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I thought it was quite well known that Russian football fans were racist. All you need to do is look at some of the matches in their last World Cup run('98, I think), and you'll see. I'm pretty sure the fans were racist towards African nations. Around the time of the UEFA Cup Final, Manchester, there was a lot of talk about Zenit fans being racist. I was never sure if it was true, and if it was, they certainly didn't show it on TV. "well Venezuela are a South American country, and I have personally never seen a white Venezuelan" Have you been to Venezuela before? I mean, actually walked down a busy main street in the country, and seen nothing but dark skinned people? As for White South Americans, there is a large population of White South Americans, like somebody said. Just like, believe it or not, you get white people in Africa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digsy11 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 look closer at Danny Danny's white, at least he was when they played Juve the other day.Personally I think Fifa should ban any teams with these polocies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suge Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I think FIFA aren't doing enough to clamp down on these racist countries. Croatia got fined £30,000 for racist chanting agaist England and that is pittance. I would much rather prefer them grouping together all the racist fans and dishing out 100 lashings each. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MECAP Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Dick Advocaat said the fans wouldn't allow him to buy a black player... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/2299242/Zenit-fans-are-racist,-admits-Dick-Advocaat.htmlAs others have said, it shouldn't be in the game as it glorifies racism. that Dick is making things up, they have a turkish player in the squad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I think FIFA aren't doing enough to clamp down on these racist countries. Croatia got fined £30,000 for racist chanting agaist England and that is pittance. I would much rather prefer them grouping together all the racist fans and dishing out 100 lashings each. €20,000 actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamenaglar Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 eastern europe is stuck in the 1950s, so iwouldnt be surprised if this were true hypocrisy at its best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Honcho Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Why would FM, that espouses kicking rascism out of football, want to put this in their game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamenaglar Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I think FIFA aren't doing enough to clamp down on these racist countries. Croatia got fined £30,000 for racist chanting agaist England and that is pittance. I would much rather prefer them grouping together all the racist fans and dishing out 100 lashings each. Have you ever been to Croatia. I suppose you haven't, yet you have the guts and decency to insult me. Maybe you should look a bit in your country before accusing other countries as racist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerner Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I actually worked in Split for 3 years, so yes there is racism in Croatian football, I witnessed it. But it is only slightly worse than in Spain, Italy etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamenaglar Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I actually worked in Split for 3 years, so yes there is racism in Croatian football, I witnessed it. But it is only slightly worse than in Spain, Italy etc. I don't deny that racism or fascism exists in Croatia, however to label country as racist is insulting all the majority that despises that kind of behaviour, including me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerner Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I never labelled your country, or any other, as that itself would be racist and stereotypical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
av3ry Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 eastern europe is stuck in the 1950s, so iwouldnt be surprised if this were true Ye, but dont forget that one of the most racist countries in Europe are Spain. When England and Bolton went there a few years back they were both racially picked on and Atletico Madrid got banned from their stadium for two European matches after racist chanting against Marseille. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamenaglar Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I never labelled your country, or any other, as that itself would be racist and stereotypical. I didn't qoute you in my first post did I? I qouted suge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Osmann Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Well, Russian or russians do not surprise me anymore. Russia have a huge problem with racisme and they do nothing against it. Just google racisme in Russia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earmack Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Eastern Euopeans and Russians have huge problems with racism, I know some Russians and they tell me racism is the norm in and around Russia. Some Italians are also Facists who've gotten it into their head that Blacks are bad, and generally speaking Italians HATE gypsies. Racism is for the most part integral to nationhood, so those with a strong sense of their nations supremacy and no sense of humour about their nation are what I'd call racist. No club on FM should be tagged so as to not buy black players though regardless of how realistic it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pina Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Well, Russian or russians do not surprise me anymore. Russia have a huge problem with racisme and they do nothing against it. Just google racisme in Russia. Well, which country in Europe doesn't have this problem? and which country in Africa is it again that treats whites equally? it's a worldwide problem and the more ignorant people seem to keep bringing it up and pointing the blame on anyone but their own country. people like you just bigots no better then the racists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom14 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I didn't qoute you in my first post did I? I qouted suge. Didn't suge say 'all the racist fans'. He didn't say 'all the croatian fans' did he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerner Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 everyone is getting really uptight about this now, I think we should just recognise that every country has problems, and we should get off of everyone elses backs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamenaglar Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I think FIFA aren't doing enough to clamp down on these racist countries. Croatia got fined £30,000 for racist chanting agaist England and that is pittance. I would much rather prefer them grouping together all the racist fans and dishing out 100 lashings each. Didn't suge say 'all the racist fans'. He didn't say 'all the croatian fans' did he? He labeled "these" countries as racist, even if he didn't mean on croatia (which I highly doubt, becuse he mentions it immediately afterwards), it's obvious that he thinks there are racist countries. I have yet to know of a country that has no problem with racism, because idiots exist everywhere and are not exclusive to russia, USA, spain, england or croatia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom14 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 He labeled "these" countries as racist, even if he didn't mean on croatia (which I highly doubt, becuse he mentions it immediately afterwards), it's obvious that he thinks there are racist countries.I have yet to know of a country that has no problem with racism, because idiots exist everywhere and are not exclusive to russia, USA, spain, england or croatia. Fair enough. I can't disagree with that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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