the--dud Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I'm sitting at work reading the forum, and there is something I'v been trying to figure out. In FM08, as far as I know, the scouting knowledge is made up from the nationality of you(the manager), scouts knowledge of countries. Nationality of Assistant Manager. Is it also made up of nationality of Physio/Coaches/Youth Coaches/etc?? Seeing as the easiest thing to influence is you, the manager, I'm thinking what nationalities you select can be important. Because some gives you knowledge of several countries, right? So what is the two nationalities you can pick that gives you the widest knowledge? I was thinking... Will chosing a nationality of Algerian or Côte d'Ivoire automatically give you knowledge of France, or the other way around? Chosing Maltese or South African, will that give you knowledge of the UK, or the other way around? I believe if you chose Russian, you will automatically gain some knowledge of Ukraine and general Eastern Europe... Or if you chose German you'll have knowledge of Austria/Switzerland. Does this apply if you choose Chinese, will you have knowledge of Japan? Anyone know countries to chose to have as wide as possible knowledge? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHARLIERODD Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 it depends which league that you start in and what your club is, as scouting knowledge will vary. However i would have thought that being knowledgable in countries that it isn't easy to find scouts for would be good. But obviously if you are a lower league manager you might just want a more basic knowledge. As for the widest overall knowledge for countries for example the ivory coast and france i don't know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NepentheZ Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I don't know why you assume that you get linked knowledge from certain nationalities. I'm always "English" - And only have knowledge of another nation from the start, If I'm managing in that nation from the start. (For example, If I'm managing in France, my "English" bar will be 100% and my "France" bar between 15 and 40%. (IIRC). For scouting knowledge, its made up of You, the manager, the clubs staff, the clubs affiliates. The extra knowledge you gain from countries you have nothing to do with, is actually due to your players. If you go to your scouting knowledge screen, it will say [Country Name] [Percentage Bar] [Manager Name] (Player Name) Bermuda, 35%, NepentheZ (Greenbean*) (Player is nicknamed Greenbean*) So in my instance, that player, who is Bermudan, is where I as a manager get my Bermudan knowledge from in my profile. I have seen some managers born with knowledge of a lot of nations, but I don't actually know why, as it seems to be completely random. Also, something I'll ask to the forumites in here. How do I attain the knowledge of my players? Do they need to be at the club for a certain amount of time? Do you have to watch them play an international match? Do I simply have to ask them to recommend me a player from their national team? I've always wondered, because if theres something I can do as a manager to get this knowledge up, I will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzález Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Russian is great as you get some knowledge of all surrounding countries! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the--dud Posted October 14, 2008 Author Share Posted October 14, 2008 All very good points, perhaps you don't get knowledge of former colonial powers etc. But if it isn't implemented now, then I think it should be for added realism. It's quite likely (in my opinion), that if you're from Malta you'd have some knowledge of the UK. If you're for Algeria, you'd have some knowledge of France. As mentioned above, I completely forgot about affiliates and players. I'm interested to know as well, NepentheZ, how do you draw country knowledge out of your players? Very good question raised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jod123 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 If you're Irish you get knowledge of Republic of Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, England and Poland. I think if someone has you as favoured personnel then you may get knowledge from them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skacel Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Swiss Italian, German and French languages \o/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the--dud Posted October 14, 2008 Author Share Posted October 14, 2008 SwissItalian, German and French languages \o/ Does that mean you get knowledge of all four countries because you speak the languages? If so, swiss is a very good candidate indeed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misodoctakleidist Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I chose Russian nationality, and I have full knowledge of Russia, Belarus, and Ukraine as well as about 75% knowledge of Serbia and the Czech Republic. You can also gain knowledge by befriending other managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakhabbit Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Central Europe :- Spannish, French or german Eastern Europe :- Russian, Polish or Romanian Scandinavia :- Norwegian Sth America :- Brazillian Eastern Europe is the odd region as a lot of the nations from this region were once part of larger nations (ie USSR, Yugoslavia) but this also makes it the hardest to get complete knowledge of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinso Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 iirc, German nationality gets you a decent level of knowledge from other countries. i actually think swiss staff only have knowledge of their own country, and partial knowledge of Italy, although i could be wrong... when i manage at liverpool, i try to get as many staff from different nations as possible, to benefit from their knowledge bases. the first thing i do is filter out uk & ireland... after that, its a bit of an elimination process to get through as much as i possibly can. however, in long term games, it peters out, as its impossible to find as many nationalitites as you can at athe start, probably due to the leagues i have loaded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnickster Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Does better knowledge of a country allow the scout to find better players in that country then ? (sorry if thats a really dumb question) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jod123 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Does better knowledge of a country allow the scout to find better players in that country then ? (sorry if thats a really dumb question) The more knowledge the whole club has the more players will be on the player search screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saulty2805 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Shame for me, I'm english but partially irish (my nan), but i only get knowledge of the Uk and Ireland, which im sure i would have got with just England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurkzZ Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 alot of players speak english so english, im not sure if that helps them settel in faster ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcormack Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 i choose scottish and english at the start and i get knowledge of all the uk (although not complete) your managers nationality also effects how likely a player is to sign for you. so there are other aspects to consider while choosing your nationality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canal Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I always go with South American and African! harder to get very good scouts for these regions and therefore i can increase my worldwide knowledge!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Aja Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I dunno why but I seem to be assigned knowledge of countries which have absolutely nothing to do with my nationality. No idea why this is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jod123 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I dunno why but I seem to be assigned knowledge of countries which have absolutely nothing to do with my nationality.No idea why this is. Possibly you are on a someone's favoured personnel list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET-Taylor Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 If you wish to be a nation like Brazil or Argentina for the nationality pick germany because you can be a british club later and gain more knowledge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Aja Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Possibly you are on a someone's favoured personnel list. Sorry, I meant to say "At the beginning of the game"... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinso Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Sorry, I meant to say "At the beginning of the game"... some nationalities have set amounts of knowledge from other countries... if that makes any sense whatsoever?? what i mean is... if you add yourself as a German manager, you automatically get knowledge of certain other countries... poland, croatia... and a few others.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanGLiverpool Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 If you're Irish you get knowledge of Republic of Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, England and Poland.I think if someone has you as favoured personnel then you may get knowledge from them. I remember when at Aldershot, I had full knowledge of Spain because of Rafa Benitez being my friend while he was at liverpool it helped with scouting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the--dud Posted October 15, 2008 Author Share Posted October 15, 2008 I just started a game at Dinamo Kiev, Swiss first and Romanian second nationality. I can confirm, Switzerland only gives you Swiss and Italian knowledge, nothing else. Romanian gives you knowledge of some eastern european countries(think it might be random?) On a seperate note, I've befriended Legia(Poland) and Orlando Pirates(South Africa) managers, but I don't appears to be given any knowledge... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glamdring Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Icelandic staff always seem to have knowledge of numerous Balkan countries for some reason beyond my understanding! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misodoctakleidist Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 On a seperate note, I've befriended Legia(Poland) and Orlando Pirates(South Africa) managers, but I don't appears to be given any knowledge... It takes a little while before it shows up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversawh7 Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 To me, the best combination for a big European league is Spanish first nationality and two of either Dutch, German, or Italian for second nationality/favorite club. If you are managing in one of those last three leagues, choose the ones you are not managing in because you will get that knowledge by managing there. This will give you Spanish, Argentine, Brazilian, French, English, and Portuguese knowledge plus two of those other three. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrowes Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 To me, the best combination for a big European league is Spanish first nationality and two of either Dutch, German, or Italian for second nationality/favorite club. If you are managing in one of those last three leagues, choose the ones you are not managing in because you will get that knowledge by managing there. This will give you Spanish, Argentine, Brazilian, French, English, and Portuguese knowledge plus two of those other three. I always use the wizard that has me English with second nationality Spain and Ex International. Are you suggesting I change to say, Spain with 2nd nationality German and then as usual take over as Chelsea manager to gain additional knowledge? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversawh7 Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 I always use the wizard that has me English with second nationality Spain and Ex International. Are you suggesting I change to say, Spain with 2nd nationality German and then as usual take over as Chelsea manager to gain additional knowledge? Your setup will start you with only full English nationality and half Spanish. By choosing a nationality where you are not managing, you will get more knowledge. You can also get a bit of knowledge from setting a foreign favorite club. Here is an example of a game I started in Holland. I set my nationalities as Spanish and German, with Milan as a favorite club: That gives you a huge knowledge base compared to just English/Spanish. I'm not so sure that it makes that big of a difference for Chelsea, but for small clubs, you could be contributing a lot of the knowledge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legionaire Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 Does this apply if you choose Chinese, will you have knowledge of Japan? I test it in my game and if you choose Chinese you get Brazil, Serbia, Uruguay, Romania and Bulgaria, but no HK, Korea and Japan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soton Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 To me, the best combination for a big European league is Spanish first nationality and two of either Dutch, German, or Italian for second nationality/favorite club. If you are managing in one of those last three leagues, choose the ones you are not managing in because you will get that knowledge by managing there. This will give you Spanish, Argentine, Brazilian, French, English, and Portuguese knowledge plus two of those other three. Thanks a lot for that information, The whole manager knowledge is one of my favourite features. Just a little question though, do you gain any knowledge if you watch games that are in areas that you have no knowledge in at all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
solstar Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 I reckon you should go for Kazahstani... you could sign Borat! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackcats Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 I always do brazil then spain as it gives you good knowledge of talented football countries Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alurny Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 I just put English and Canadian, my two nationalities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonBlade Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 Swiss and Swedish are the two that give the most languages. Although a combination of Holland and Norway works well too. Assuming you're just going for the language thing which seems to be wholly useless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversawh7 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Here is the list of knowledge you would get for every possible nationality in the keep. I tried to create some kind of approximation of percentage, but it was not working so well, so knowledge is listed in the order that it would appear on the manager profile from greatest to least. Remember that you can add a half of a bar from a second nationality and a quarter bar from a favorite club: South America: Argentina: Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Colombia, Chile, Bolivia Bolivia: Bolivia, Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay Brazil: Brazil, Paraguay, Colombia, Argentina, Uruguay, Chile Chile: Chile, Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay, Colombia, Brazil Colombia: Colombia, Venezuela, Argentina, Ecuador, Peru, Panama Ecuador: Ecuador, Argentina, Colombia, Uruguay, Brazil Paraguay: Paraguay, Uruguay, Argentina, Brazil Peru: Peru, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Colombia, Brazil Uruguay: Uruguay, Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Paraguay, Cameroon Venezuela: Venezuela, Argentina, Colombia, Brazil Africa: Algeria: Algeria, Mali, Cameroon, Burkina Faso, Ivory Coast, Guinea Angola: Angola Benin: Benin Botswana: Botswana Burkina Faso: Burkina Faso Burundi: Burundi Cameroon: Cameroon, Liberia Cape Verde: Cape Verde Central African Republic: Central African Republic Chad: Chad Comoros: Comoros Congo: Congo Djibouti: Djibouti Democratic Republic of Congo: Democratic Republic of Congo Egypt: Egypt, Ghana, Nigeria, Cameroon, Tunisia, Ivory Coast Equatorial Guinea: Equatorial Guinea Eritrea: Eritrea Ethiopia: Ethiopia Gabon: Gabon Gambia: Gambia Ghana: Ghana Guinea: Guinea Guinea-Bissau: Guinea-Bissau Ivory Coast: Ivory Coast Kenya: Kenya Lesotho: Lesotho Liberia: Liberia Libya: Libya Madagascar: Madagascar Malawi: Malawi Mali: Mali Mauritania: Mauritania Mauritius: Mauritius Mayotte: Mayotte Morocco: Morocco, Senegal, Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Burkina Faso, Mali Mozambique: Mozambique Namibia: Namibia Niger: Niger Nigeria: Nigeria, Ghana Reunion: Reunion Rwanda: Rwanda Sao Tome and Principe: Sao Tome and Principe Senegal: Senegal Seychelles: Seychelles Sierra Leone: Sierra Leone Somalia: Somalia South Africa: South Africa, Zambia, Democratic Republic of Congo, Zimbabwe, Malawi, Lesotho Sudan: Sudan Swaziland: Swaziland Tanzania: Tanzania Togo: Togo Tunisia: Tunisia, Senegal, Ivory Coast, Brazil, Nigeria, Ghana Uganda: Uganda Zambia: Zambia Zimbabwe: Zimbabwe Asia: Afghanistan: Afghanistan Australia: Australia, England, Brazil, Argentina, New Zealand Bahrain: Bahrain, Nigeria Bangladesh: Bangladesh, Nigeria, Morocco, Uganda, Liberia, Guinea Bhutan: Bhutan Brunei: Brunei Cambodia: Cambodia China: China, Brazil, Serbia, Uruguay, Romania, Bulgaria Taiwan: Taipei East Timor: East Timor Guam: Guam Hong Kong: Hong Kong, China, Nigeria, Cameroon, Brazil, Ghana India: India, Nigeria, Brazil, Ghana Indonesia: Chile, Brazil, Indonesia, Cameroon, Argentina, Liberia Iran: Iran, Azerbaijan, Iraq, Armenia, Georgia, Brazil Iraq: Iraq Japan: Brazil, Japan, South Korea, North Korea Jordan: Jordan Kuwait: Kuwait, Brazil, Nigeria Kyrgyzstan: Kyrgyzstan Laos: Laos Lebanon: Lebanon, Armenia Macao: Macao, China, Brazil, Portugal Malaysia: Malaysia, Brazil, Australia, Argentina, Slovakia, Ghana Maldives: Maldives Mongolia: Mongolia Myanmar: Myanmar Nepal: Nepal North Korea: North Korea Northern Mariana Islands: Northern Mariana Islands Oman: Oman Pakistan: Pakistan Palestine: Palestine Philippines: Philippines Qatar: Qatar, Bahrain Saudi Arabia: Saudi Arabia, Brazil, Oman Singapore: Singapore, Australia, Thailand, Nigeria, Cameroon, England South Korea: South Korea, Brazil Sri Lanka: Sri Lanka Syria: Syria, Nigeria Tajikistan: Tajikistan Thailand: Thailand, Brazil Turkmenistan: Turkmenistan UAE: UAE, Brazil Uzbekistan: Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, Russia Vietnam: Vietnam, Brazil, Uganda, Nigeria, Thailand, Ukraine Yemen: Yemen Oceania: American Samoa: American Samoa Cook Islands: Cook Islands Fiji: Fiji New Caledonia: New Caledonia New Zealand: New Zealand Papua New Guinea: Papua New Guinea Samoa: Samoa Solomon Islands: Solomon Islands Tahiti: Tahiti Tonga: Tonga Vanuatu: Vanuatu Wallis and Futuna: Wallis and Futuna Europe: Albania: Albania, Macedonia, Brazil, Cameroon, Nigeria, Croatia Andorra: Andorra Armenia: Brazil, Ukraine, Armenia, Serbia, Russia, Nigeria Austria: Austria, Germany, Serbia, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina Azerbaijan: Georgia, Azerbaijan, Brazil, Ukraine, Turkey, Cameroon Belarus: Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Poland, Lithuania, Kazakhstan Belgium: Belgium, France, Holland, Germany, Luxembourg, Democratic Republic of Congo Bosnia and Herzegovina: Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia, Croatia, Montenegro, Brazil, Slovenia Bulgaria: Bulgaria, Brazil, Serbia, Macedonia, Portugal, Nigeria Croatia: Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Macedonia, Albania, Serbia, Slovenia Cyprus: Cyprus, Greece, Serbia, Hungary, Slovakia, Georgia Czech Republic: Czech Republic, Slovakia, Brazil, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Slovenia, France Denmark: Denmark, Sweden, Iceland, Brazil, Norway, Faeroe Islands England: England Estonia: Estonia Faeroe Islands: Faeroe Islands, Denmark, Iceland Finland: Finland France: France, England, Switzerland, Belgium, Brazil, Spain Macedonia: Macedonia, Serbia, Montenegro, Brazil, Nigeria, Bosnia and Herzegovina Georgia: Georgia Germany: Germany, Croatia, Poland, Holland, Czech Republic, Brazil Greece: Greece, Serbia, Brazil, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Albania Holland: Holland, Belgium, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Germany Hungary: Hungary, Romania, Serbia, Montenegro Iceland: Iceland, England, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Faeroe Islands Ireland: Ireland, Northern Ireland, England, Scotland, Poland Israel: Serbia, Israel, Croatia, Ghana, Democratic Republic of Congo, Nigeria Italy: Italy Kazakhstan: Ukraine, Russia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan Latvia: Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Russia, Georgia, Estonia Liechtenstein: Liechtenstein, Switzerland Lithuania: Lithuania, Ukraine, Belarus, Russia, Georgia, Poland Luxembourg: Luxembourg, France, Germany, Belgium, Portugal Malta: Malta, Nigeria, Brazil, Serbia, Bulgaria, Italy Moldova: Romania, Moldova, Ukraine, Georgia Montenegro: Montenegro, Serbia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Macedonia, Nigeria, Cameroon Northern Ireland: Northern Ireland, Ireland, Scotland, England, United States Norway: Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland, Finland, Faeroe Islands Poland: Poland, Nigeria, Serbia, Czech Republic, Brazil, Bosnia and Herzegovina Portugal: Portugal, Brazil, France, Argentina, Montenegro, Slovenia Romania: Romania, Serbia, Australia, Portugal, Moldova, Montenegro Russia: Ukraine, Russia, Belarus, Brazil, Serbia, Czech Republic San Marino: San Marino Scotland: Scotland Serbia: Montenegro, Serbia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Macedonia, Brazil, Cameroon Slovakia: Slovakia, Czech Republic, Serbia Slovenia: Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia, Montenegro, Albania Spain: Spain, Argentina, Brazil, Portugal, France, England Sweden: Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Finland, Bosnia and Herzegovina Switzerland: Switzerland, Italy Turkey: Turkey, Brazil, Germany, Belgium, Holland, Bosnia and Herzegovina Ukraine: Ukraine, Russia, Kazakhstan, Belarus, Moldova, China Wales: Wales, England North America: Anguilla: Anguilla Antigua and Barbuda: Antigua and Barbuda Aruba: Aruba Bahamas: Bahamas Barbados: Barbados Belize: Belize, Honduras, Costa Rica Bermuda: Bermuda British Virgin Islands: British Virgin Islands Canada: Canada, England, Holland, Norway, Germany, Denmark Cayman Islands: Cayman Islands Costa Rica: Costa Rica, Honduras, Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil Cuba: Cuba Dominica: Dominica Dominican Republic: Dominican Republic, Haiti El Salvador: El Salvador, Colombia, Brazil, Argentina, Guatemala French Guyana: French Guyana Grenada: Grenada Guadeloupe: Guadeloupe Guatemala: Guatemala, Uruguay, Argentina, Costa Rica, Brazil, Colombia Guyana: Guyana Haiti: Haiti Honduras: Honduras, Argentina, Brazil, Costa Rica, Uruguay Jamaica: Jamaica Martinique: Martinique Mexico: Argentina, Mexico, Brazil, Uruguay, Paraguay, Chile Montserrat: Montserrat Netherlands Antilles: Netherlands Antilles Nicaragua: Nicaragua, Argentina, Uruguay Panama: Panama, Colombia, Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay Puerto Rico: Puerto Rico Sint Maarten: Sint Maarten Saint Kitts and Nevis: Saint Kitts and Nevis Saint Lucia: Saint Lucia Saint Martin: Saint Martin Saint Pierre and Miquelon: Saint Pierre and Miquelon Saint Vincent and the Grenadines: Saint Vincent and the Grenadines Suriname: Suriname Trinidad and Tobago: Trinidad and Tobago, Jamaica, Guyana, Brazil, Saint Lucia, United States Turks and Caicos: Turks and Caicos United States: United States, Germany, Holland, England, Belgium, Mexico US Virgin Islands: US Virgin Island, United States Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Here is the list of knowledge you would get for every possible nationality in the keep. I tried to create some kind of approximation of percentage, but it was not working so well, so knowledge is listed in the order that it would appear on the manager profile from greatest to least. Remember that you can add a half of a bar from a second nationality and a quarter bar from a favorite club:Asia: Hong Kong: Hong Kong, China, Nigeria, Cameroon, Brazil, Ghana North America: Canada: Canada, England, Holland, Norway, Germany, Denmark I get all the Canada ones, but I only get Hong Kong knowledge with it as 2nd nationality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzález Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 That's a fantastic list, roversawh7! So that means, if managing in England, a good choice of nationalities would be Argentine and Danish, with a Russian team as your favourite club, giving you 14 different 'knowledges'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee_ram Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I tend to go with American since I am a Yank and then Dutch since my grandparents are so I get a good smattering of knowledge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesYesOhYay Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 always good to have a bit of south american goin on as a second nationality! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardog Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Always Scottish, Im Scottish so thats why. Also we've prduced some of the best managers in the world IRL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversawh7 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 I get all the Canada ones, but I only get Hong Kong knowledge with it as 2nd nationality. That's a fantastic list, roversawh7!So that means, if managing in England, a good choice of nationalities would be Argentine and Danish, with a Russian team as your favourite club, giving you 14 different 'knowledges'. What I meant to say is that for a second nationality and favorite club, you get a small amount of knowledge of only that country... So rancer890, you should get the Canada ones plus half a bar of Hong Kong knowledge. Are you CBC, by the way? I'm ABC myself and always add Hong Kong second nationality to my American first nationality when I am playing games on the demo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 What I meant to say is that for a second nationality and favorite club, you get a small amount of knowledge of only that country...So rancer890, you should get the Canada ones plus half a bar of Hong Kong knowledge. Are you CBC, by the way? I'm ABC myself and always add Hong Kong second nationality to my American first nationality when I am playing games on the demo. Yes, I'm CBC. My parents were born in HK though, so I haven't been to HK (yet). On FM, I think I get full bar of HK though (at least 3/4 bar lol). I wondering why I don't get China knowledge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversawh7 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Now for some analysis of my results. In South America, every nationality gives you Argentine knowledge, so if you are in Argentina, there is no clear advantage. In Brazil, I would recommend Argentina as the first nationality with Peru/Venezuela/Ecuador being you choices for the other two. For managing in Colombia, I would go with Uruguay or Chile and a combo of Bolivia and the one that is not your first nationality. In Peru, Chile with Ecuador and Venezuela would be a good one. Oceania nation knowledge is pretty much useless. Meanwhile in North America, South American knowledge is key. For the US, I would go with Mexican first nationality and choose among the countries you do not have knowledge of. Caribbean knowledge might give you something different, but it probably would not bring up many players. For Mexico, I would go with Colombia and a combo of Peru and Ecuador. Africa does not give that many intriguing options. If you are managing in South Africa, you might as well just take that nationality with Angola as a second nationality and another nearby country for a favorite club. You could add England for a favorite club to bring up any second nationality regens from there. If you want a lot of good African countries for knowledge, I would go with Egypt and a combo of Morocco and Algeria. You could also add two other African countries to either Algeria, Morocco, or Tunisia as a first nationality and have a good base.\ Asia gives you some absolutely bizarre knowledge. It seems like you might want Singapore, Malaysia, or Indonesia as a first nationality. I don't really have specific recommendations, but any of the countries with multiple knowledge bases could work well for you. Europe gives you so many options to choose from that I could not possibly come up with all of the solutions. As I said before, Spain with a combination of Germany, Holland, or Italy is probably the most effective for covering all of the major companies. For England, especially below the Premier League, I would go with Ireland and a combination of Bulgaria, Greece, or Wales. For Spain, I would consider a South American nationality like Colombia or possibly Germany or Austria for solid knowledge . Dutch nationality will give you a great spread of Northern countries while Norway will guarantee all of the Scandinavian countries. Greece can give you a useful mix, while Lithuania, Belarus, or Kazakhstan give you a base of former Soviet republics to work with. Croatia or Slovenia give you the most complete Balkan knowledge. Those are some ideas for contributing more to your team's scouting knowledge. Add any ideas if you have them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the--dud Posted October 22, 2008 Author Share Posted October 22, 2008 Just to clarify a bit regarding knowledge... Btw, roversawh7, amazing work posting that exhaustive list... Greatly apperciated! 2nd nationalities, in my experience, will only give you knowledge of the first on that list. Sometimes it might give you two countries... Eg, select Slovakia as 2nd nationality and you'd get Slovakia and not Czech Republic and Serbia. Select it as first nationality and you get all three Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversawh7 Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Yep, selecting Slovakia for a second nationality will give half or more of a bar of Slovakian knowledge. Selecting a favorite club from Slovakia will give you a quarter of a bar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssestig Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 thank you for the list roversawh7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebaker Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Thanks for that list roversawh7, that list would also be really useful when finding staff members to increase club knowledge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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