speople Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 I know there are some huge saves knocking around, and just wondered, has anyone ever seen any of the world class clubs, such as the big 4 in england, big 2 in spain, big 2 in holland, bayern in germany, actually get relegated, and even relegated beyond the 2nd tier ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedzo Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Well Lazio went down to serie B and finished 13th on mines, and that was only like 3rd or 4th season! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyGabriel Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Isn't it a Big 3 in Holland? I'm not sure whichever one of Feyenoord, PSV or Ajax you're leaving out would be too happy. But there was a thread where Liverpool had been relegated not so long ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomer Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Isn't it a Big 3 in Holland? I'm not sure whichever one of Feyenoord, PSV or Ajax you're leaving out would be too happy.But there was a thread where Liverpool had been relegated not so long ago. Feyenoord isn't what it used to be And to be fair, neither is Ajax. Top 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmeee17 Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 With their massive debts, I wouldn't be surprised to see Liverpool or United go down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STICKMAN007 Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 I would have said Twente are in the top 3 or 4 in Dutchland now thanks to Steve MacLaren. And no, i'm not joking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Taylor Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 In most, if not all, of my saves, I always seem to see Liverpool go down within 5-10 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty206 Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Im in 2042 and Arsenal were relegated a few seasons ago. Championship football at Van Basten Park ftw. They won the championship title straight away though and not doing badly now they're back in the prem. Also Liverpool,Everton were relegated at some point during my save too.Man Utd also survived on final day of the season. Im currently playing Champions League football at Norwich :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
speople Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 With their massive debts, I wouldn't be surprised to see Liverpool or United go down. Never mind go down, With their current levels of debt IRL I wouldn't be at all surprised if they actually went under. (Meaning out of business altogether. Shocking financial management at both places). I follow Liverpool, but the ONLY financially well managed club is Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiver Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Birmingham in League 2 and completely bankrupt. In around 2030. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Taylor Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Never mind go down, With their current levels of debt IRL I wouldn't be at all surprised if they actually went under. (Meaning out of business altogether. Shocking financial management at both places). I follow Liverpool, but the ONLY financially well managed club is Arsenal. Both Man Utd and Liverpool rely on massive turnovers that equal or surpass their spending costs. Liverpool's turnover is going to go down considerably this season because they aren't in the CL anymore... Wouldn't it be great if they went bust?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooCooKaJoo Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 i remember seeing one from 08/p09 where Man U finished the season in 22nd place in league 2, only just avoiding relegation to conference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmeee17 Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 i remember seeing one from 08/p09 where Man U finished the season in 22nd place in league 2, only just avoiding relegation to conference That is some massive drop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
baker.simon Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Never seen anything like this in any of my saves. Arsenal finished 15th in 2015 on mine but thats about it. Bolton are league 1 now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyGabriel Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Not a top team anymore but if Newcastle don't get promoted within the first couple of seasons they tend to enter administration and can drop down the leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terra21 Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Portsmouth just barely avoided relegation into League 1 in my game, other than that no big clubs have been relegated yet. In 2014/15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebaker Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Liverpool were relegated to the championship on a fm09 save of mine, nearest to the big 4 this year is Tottenham yo-yo ing for the last 4 or 5 seasons between the 2 divisions. not a world class team but a big drop all the same, Blackpool are currently in their 4th season in the BSN. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Guy! Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 In Previous versions I've seen Liverpool, Man U and Chelsea go down before. On this version I've seen something bizare though. Preston are currently fighting relegation in the Blue Square North... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
speople Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 I also once saw Ipswich (on CM4) drop in consecutive seasons from the start of the game, out of the Football Conference altogether. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyGabriel Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 On this version I've seen something bizare though. Preston are currently fighting relegation in the Blue Square North... Not all that bizarre, they're relying on loans from a wealthy fan to keep them afloat at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBF652 Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 The only big club I saw being relegated was Man Utd in 2030. They got back to the PL one year later and since then have been finishing at the middle of the table. Arsenal are sitting at 15th in December 2037 but I don't think they'll be relegated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThfcJoe Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Isn't it a Big 3 in Holland? I'm not sure whichever one of Feyenoord, PSV or Ajax you're leaving out would be too happy.But there was a thread where Liverpool had been relegated not so long ago. I think it is Ajax, PSV and AZ now.. maybe Twente is in there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Guy! Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Not all that bizarre, they're relying on loans from a wealthy fan to keep them afloat at the moment. But dropping through the entire league structure..? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevio11 Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Not a top team but Tranmere in the BSP in season 4 in my game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
killimandros Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Had an interesting game where Chelsea found themself in d1, and Ilkestone were eventually promoted to Premier (and no, I did not manage them) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltablue Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 I've seen Lazio go down after a relatively short time on multiple games. Have taken over a just relegated Liverpool (in 07 in the late 2010's) and seen Chelsea become a yo-yo side in 09 in the late 2020's/early 2030's. Also though its slightly different, seen Dinamo Kiev and Shakhtar come pretty close during my current job in the Ukraine, something which in itself is just as unlikely as actual relegation for big-ish clubs elsewhere. Later in the same save as the liverpool relegation, Ipswich were in the lower reaches of league 2 just 20 years after I took them to the title. I know 20 years is a fairly long time but it's still a heck of a drop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
letissierandhenryaregreat Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Isn't it a Big 3 in Holland? I'm not sure whichever one of Feyenoord, PSV or Ajax you're leaving out would be too happy.But there was a thread where Liverpool had been relegated not so long ago. I think Holland has a Big Four: Ajax, PSV, Feyenoord and AZ Alkmaar (who have impressed in europe recently). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomManager Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 In my AFC Kempston save Harrogate have had 3 straight relegations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishSteven Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Had Liverpool go down twice in FM10, and Arsenal just avoided relegation on the last day in my current game with Ajax. Oh, and someone mention Preston. Well almost every save I play sees them tumble down the leagues to L2 at the very least, if not conference level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Lad Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 I've seen both Liverpool and Manchester United relegated. I saw Man U relegated to the Championship and after five years still hadn't gone back up (and they had maybe five or six English players in total in their entire side -- anyone else notice this?) Everton I also see usually go down. In my current save, Aston Villa went down and haven't gone back up after two years, and Newcastle recently entered administration and after four years are still in the Championship, languishing in midtable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMAnderson Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Both Man Utd and Liverpool rely on massive turnovers that equal or surpass their spending costs. Liverpool's turnover is going to go down considerably this season because they aren't in the CL anymore... Wouldn't it be great if they went bust?! I would play this when that happens .. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMAnderson Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 I think Holland has a Big Four: Ajax, PSV, Feyenoord and AZ Alkmaar (who have impressed in europe recently). AZ have been consistent on my save also Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomer Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 I think Holland has a Big Four: Ajax, PSV, Feyenoord and AZ Alkmaar (who have impressed in europe recently). No, AZ are not consistent at all. They're pants this season, they were pants the season before they were champions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldinho Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 in my game ive seen all the top 4 clubs go down over 7 years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDani Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 While AZ has been a constant contender for the Eredivisie in my current save, they haven't really done anything internationally (out in CL qualification or didn't get beyond group stages). The biggest/most successful club I can remember being relegated is VfL Wolfsburg, who won the Bundesliga in 08/09 and then got steadily worse (7th, 12th, 16th (won relegation playoff) and finally 17th), beginning from their first season in FM2010. Then again, they're just as bad in real life this season and their championship was a fluke anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
polskaGOLA Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 I Holidayed to the 2020's and in that game, Wigan was in the BSPL, and Bayern was escaping relegation. Also, I noticed Valencia and Athletic Bibao have made a top 4 with RM and Barca in that game. But I was only doing some Regen tests. (So Valencia had 2 world class Polish Regens. ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crowsus Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 No, AZ are not consistent at all. They're pants this season, they were pants the season before they were champions. Off-topic a bit, but i think the debate here is who are the big teams in the Netherlands - historically it's always Feyenoord, Ajax and PSV, in terms of success and fan power. Recently only PSV have been consistently good and that has allowed other mid-table teams like AZ and Twente to have success,and that can only be healthy for Dutch football in terms of competetion. In the long term it would not be that surprising if AZ or Twente failed to win anything again in the next 20 years. But if Feyenoord or Ajax went down, in FM or IRL, that would be big news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyyen Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 chelsea got relegated after going into admnistration in my save in 2016 i think, but i dont know what happened since i was managing in spain. Only premier league is loaded but i noticed that they kept all of their players after relegation and abrahamovic is still there. strange... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sando123 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 on 09 man u got relegated few times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 All of the English "big 4" have dropped out of the Prem at least once by 2054, Pool went down to League One and Villa have dropped off the game altogether (below BSP) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalimyr Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Birmingham in League 2 and completely bankrupt. In around 2030.They're not exactly a world class club though, are they? Hell, I've got/had a save for FM09 where Bolton and Wolves were both in League 2 along with other former Premiership teams like Charlton, Ipswich and Watford...while QPR were winning 6 Premiership titles in a row and teams including Rochdale and Brentford were mid-table Premiership teams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_lufc Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 This happened in the first season, I was managing Coventry. http://i45.tinypic.com/2hdu26d.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomer Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 17 draws! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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