edwardhck73 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 mission accomplished with BM, sometimes SUS and GOODbye 343 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasu Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Does this tactic work if you don't have CFs? I'm having a very hard time finding a tactic that's consistent and players are much harder to come by this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardhck73 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 11 minutes ago, grasu said: Does this tactic work if you don't have CFs? I'm having a very hard time finding a tactic that's consistent and players are much harder to come by this year. one of my 3 tops CF bought only below 500k. need finishing, determination, natural fitness, accelattion, pace , stamina not less than 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasu Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 3 hours ago, edwardhck73 said: one of my 3 tops CF bought only below 500k. need finishing, determination, natural fitness, accelattion, pace , stamina not less than 12 I don't have 500k, let alone the salary some of these players command. I'm just wondering if this will work with DLFs, False 9s or TMs (support). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just let your AM do a quick pick and play with the fwds picked. Just scout for good strikers, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasu Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 OK, thanks @knap, I'll let my AM pick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardhck73 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 hours ago, knap said: Just let your AM do a quick pick and play with the fwds picked. Just scout for good strikers, i see you want the CF to tackle harder, is tackling importants for the CF , AF in BM ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 Not really, just want them to try and win ball back if possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Wow @knap this Tactic is the dogs bollocks pal. I won the league with Boro easily and won the F.A Cup beating Tottenham Man Utd and Arsenal aswell as Man City in the Final. Here is a bunch of screen shots I haven't Signed anyone as this was purely just my test with this tactic. Assombolonga was injured for 6 month's and missed the entire last 6 month's of the season but still had 15 goals from 19 league games I can only imagine what this would be like with a Top side or brilliant attacking side. My only critique would be the defending can be suspect at times and i conceded maybe 10-15 more goals than i would like but hey i won the majority of my games so can not be to harsh. Once again i have to take my hat off to you @knap Brillaint work on last years game and you have started strongly on this one too. Well Done Sir. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 Welcome back as not seen you around for a while, although your tactics are still requested. Always been a bit of a we can score more than you tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 22 minutes ago, knap said: Welcome back as not seen you around for a while, although your tactics are still requested. Always been a bit of a we can score more than you tactic. I've always been lurking in the background but don't have the time to make anything these days so relying on others to provide the tactics for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mielony Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 win Serie A and Uefa Champions League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 The CL Juve game was a monster! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackhysell Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Great tactic Knap. Im having problem at Liverpool winning tough away games... Do anyone change the mentality before tough games? Or does someone have any other suggestions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 Try the GOODBYE 343 Away or a SUS type tactic if you get a lead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackhysell Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Alright! I used your tactic for 17. Fantastic work! What do you mean by SUS type tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandersson Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Unbeaten in brazilian third division. I put together a pretty strong squad for this standard but still! In this thread I've seen strikers with 'beat offside trap' PPM scoring a lot (Icardi, Pazzini), is it something you'd suggest for STC position? As you can see my striker did very well without that PPM, wonder if beating offside could help him score more or just keep him offside 5-6 times per game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 If I had or could use an editor, it may be worth testing with and without. Every time they are offside you will curse the PPM! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 SUS Shut up shop Key role is the WB by changing to defend to stop the runs. Also using contain mentality to take less risks. Something worth having in the tactic arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackhysell Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Thanks knap! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FortunaSC Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 i used this tactic in scotland with great result Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca72 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Knap, do you think the tactic could perform losing one of the 3 forwards? wonder if playing a DM (Half back maybe) might sure the defence up. im probably clutching at straws but I really don’t enjoy playing 3 strikers. cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giraffin Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Is it impossible to make a high scoring 4231 etc? like a more normal formation? Im not really digging the three striker thing either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomekk73 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 On 15.11.2017 at 18:35, Mr Hough said: Wow @knap this Tactic is the dogs bollocks pal. I won the league with Boro easily and won the F.A Cup beating Tottenham Man Utd and Arsenal aswell as Man City in the Final. Here is a bunch of screen shots I haven't Signed anyone as this was purely just my test with this tactic. Assombolonga was injured for 6 month's and missed the entire last 6 month's of the season but still had 15 goals from 19 league games I can only imagine what this would be like with a Top side or brilliant attacking side. My only critique would be the defending can be suspect at times and i conceded maybe 10-15 more goals than i would like but hey i won the majority of my games so can not be to harsh. Once again i have to take my hat off to you @knap Brillaint work on last years game and you have started strongly on this one too. Well Done Sir. Which tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mersk Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 12 minutes ago, Tomekk73 said: Which tactic? Come on man, you really have to quote that entire post just to ask which tactic, when this entire thread is about a specific tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 It's the blue Matter 433 103 point Tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Sir Matthew Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 On 15-11-2017 at 09:35, edwardhck73 said: one of my 3 tops CF bought only below 500k. need finishing, determination, natural fitness, accelattion, pace , stamina not less than 12 Is this true or are the crucial attributes Dribbling, 1st Touch, Heading, Long Shots, Passing, Technique, Anticipation, Composure, Decisions, Off the ball, vision, Acceleration, Agility and Strength like given in the game for a CF Support role? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 It depends what level, what you can afford, hidden attributes etc I have always preferred using a weighted average system for attributes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Hi Knap, how do you set individual training? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 I'm trying FMT this year and have done nothing with training. I would set them to roles if needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braumiller Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Not sure if in FMT or not @knap - do you change your pitch size in any particular way when the groundsman asks before the season? (Prefer to play with this tactic on a small pitch, large pitch, just normal?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewhirst Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I have to say this tactic is the best I've ever experienced on the game. I started in league two, broke the league points tally. Now I'm almost finished my second season and have already broken the league one goal record and I'm on my way to break the points tally again. On top of that I am in the FA cup semi final after knocking out two premier league teams. Like I said, best tactic ever.. almost to the point where it breaks the game lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooders11 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Great tactic. Sorry but what does FMT mean? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirajzl Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 FM Touch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooders11 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooders11 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Sorry if this is slightly off topic but if I was to start a new game on FMT would I have to do the real name fix logos etc or as I've already done that for the full fm18 it would work also for touch? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Sir Matthew Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 14 minutes ago, gooders11 said: Sorry if this is slightly off topic but if I was to start a new game on FMT would I have to do the real name fix logos etc or as I've already done that for the full fm18 it would work also for touch? Fm touch creates its own dB folders within the football manager 2018 steam app folder, so,yes you need to do the real name fix again. Likewise for graphics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Sir Matthew Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 12 hours ago, knap said: I have always preferred using a weighted average system for attributes. Are you willing to expand on how you approach this? Or refer to old(er) posts explaining it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmmf91 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Do you think the tactic would still be efective if i moved the 2 CF's to the wing (and maybe played them as IF)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 Very unlikely, but worth a try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 Weighted Averages system just gives a higher ranking to the key attributes say a Fast striker Key Finishing pace acceleration 2nd ranked Dribbling first touch OTB 3rd ranked Composure Agility 4th ranked passing anticipation Creativity Passing balance 5th ranked Crossing LS Decisions Flair How you rank them is up to you and you can prioritise certain attributes like detemination Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnum Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Any chance you make a 4-3-3 with 1 pure striker and 2 IF on the outside? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpandingTheBox Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Fantastic tactic Knap. I used it throughout my 2nd season with the Spurs. A few things i have noticed while watching every game is. - The team as a whole does attempt a lot of long shots. while there are better options available. - The defence gets a lot of yellow cards. Total: 87 yellow and 7 red cards in 56 matches. - Especially against teams who play with a moved up WB and Winger/IF my IWB has trouble defending that. Because he rushes in trying to take the ball of the WB which then passes the ball in to space behind my IWB too the opposition winger/IF and against top teams it is likely to result into a goal. Here are my results playing only your tactic 2nd season. NO OI's I did sign some players. I bought: Icardi (Key player), Belotti (Key player), Goretzka (Rotation), Samper (Rotation), Eggestein (Rotation), Zielinski (First team player) Sold: Gazzaniga, Son Heung Min (Man UTD offered 54 mil so :-), Wanyama, Lamela, Edwards Lost the CL semi final against Barcalona. 2-1 (home) 1-5 (away) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnum Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 @knap Does it kill the tactic if I moved the two outside strikers out to the wing and play them as Inside Forwards? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirajzl Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 9 minutes ago, burnum said: @knap Does it kill the tactic if I moved the two outside strikers out to the wing and play them as Inside Forwards? It would because you'd lose the central overload the tactic relies on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Knap, did you use this 433 both home and away? Also, what did you do when you were playing on neutral ground in cup games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jersve Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Blue Matter Tac looks very solid @knap First season with The Arsenal and won the treble. Had a 40 games unbeaten run. My strikers really preformed Lacazette 32 goals 20 assists Belotti 25 goals 13 assists Welbeck 22 goals 15 assists M.Dembele 19 goals 11 assists Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 That was a long unbeaten run after Leicester. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jersve Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Just now, knap said: That was a long unbeaten run after Leicester. Yes! Team was amazing, had a little dip towards the end of the season. i did rotate alot during the season, the tactic takes alot of energy from the players so a big squad is a must.. up front welbeck andone lacazette belotti vietto dembele all got gametime.. only real disappointment was the loss to m'borough otherwise a cracking season! played all games with highlight mode - key. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnum Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Definitely a great tactic for top-tier teams. Went unbeaten in the German Bundesliga with Bayern using this tactic. However, when I used it with West Ham I really struggled. Great tactic for big teams but not so much for smaller or mid-table teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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