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  1. I've got some questions about this tactic as I'm trying to implement and tweak these tactics for my West Ham team: Who is usually your top scorer (goals) in this tactic and where do the most assists come from (which position)? Any ideas on getting another role for the striker to work in this tactic? I've got a great striker (Odsonne Eduard) who is a clinical scorer but doesn't offer much as a passer. I assume you put your best playmaker-type at Regista. What type of player are you looking for in the Mezzala role? Would you recommend more of a playmaker-type (Fornals in my case) or more of a physical guy (size/speed) in the Mezzala role? Is there any downside to playing both DC as BPD if I have two guys who are good on the ball?
  2. This looks very promising. Exactly the type of football I want my team to play. The fact that you didn't use a ton of PI gives us a lot of room to use this tactic as a base and tweak from there (e.g. tell your REG to take more long shots if he's good at it or employing a hard-tackling pressing block with your midfielders). I tried to make something like this work a couple of weeks ago but I failed - now you've created exactly what I had in mind all along. Thanks! One note: Set pieces can be improved upon quite easily, should make this tactic even better.
  3. If I wanted both sides the same, would you rather add man-marking to AML or remove man-marking from AMR?
  4. @knap In HGF 451 the IF on the right side (AMR) is set to man-mark the opposing DL but the IF on the left side (AML) is not set to man-mark anyone. Is that done by design or is it an error in my version of the tactic? If done by design, could you explain why the DL gets man-marked and the DR does not?
  5. @knap A ton of great tactics, as usual. However, I personally just don't like the 'Get Stuck In' TI, as it's just about the polar opposite of how I want my team to play. Nothing bad with it in general, it's just a matter of my personal preference. If I just removed the 'Get Stuck In' from any of your tactics (e.g. 4231 Parisienne or 4123 Time), how much of a dropoff in performance would you estimate?
  6. Nice one, he was one of my final candidates for the Vidal-role in the end. Had him scouted but my scouts came back and only gave him 2,5 star potential, so he just wasn't good enough in my save. Good player, no doubt. But he's not the type of player I was looking for. Tonali is more of a typical DLP, like Veratti (PSG) or Thiago (Bayern). Tonali is simply not physical enough and not defensively strong enough for my intended role. He's Pirlo, not Vidal. After scouting around 20 players for that "Vidal'esque" role, I ended up signing Florentino Luis from Benfica. Quite expensive but he seems to be exactly what I was looking for. Great mentals and defensive stats, decent physical and technical stats.
  7. I'm looking for a player who can play a role similar to Arturo Vidal when he was with Juventus & Bayern. An allround midfielder with strength, workrate, tackling but also some technical and passing skills, playing from either the MC or DMC position. Camavinga comes to mind (he could be molded into such a player) but he's already moved to PSG in my save. Any suggestions?
  8. 2 more ideas: - What do you think about changing the DM-s to Halfback on defend duty? - What about instructing the keeper to distribute to Centre Backs and Full Backs to encourage building up from the back instead of playing the long ball? This should also increase possession numbers.
  9. @crusadertsar In the tactic you've put up for download (LeftRaumdeuter) the AML is in a IF on support duty, while in the screenshot in your main post Villa is a IF on attack duty. Which one would you recommend? In theory, that position should be one of your main goal scorers, so attack duty should make sense. Could you elaborate on why he's on support duty in the download version? Why do you use the 'Run At Defense' TI? Aren't Guardiola's teams known for passing rather than dribbling? In theory that TI tells all players to dribble more. Wouldn't it make more sense to leave it unticked and tell the AML/AMR and the Mezzala to dribble more on an individual basis (via PI)? Don't get me wrong - I love what you're doing. Just trying to understand the reasoning behind it.
  10. Awesome. This is exactly the way I want my teams to play, although I've struggled mightily so far on FM20...
  11. This is actually a great way to make the transfer market more realistic. This thread deserves more attention! @majesticeternity: Did you ever think about sharing your data with SI so they can implement a more realistic transfer model into future games?
  12. Could you explain the differences between a FB on attack and a WB on support? I understand that a WB offers better support going forward whereas a FB starts from a deeper position. My theory always was that a FB on attack duty bombs forward as soon as he sees the chance, although he starts from a very deep position. Basically he needs to be able to run up and down the flank all game. In comparison I always thought a WB on support duty starts a bit higher in his basic position but doesn't bomb forward as far and as often (due to being on support duty and not attack duty). Obviously my logic is flawed. Could you explain what the difference is between those positions?
  13. @Experienced Defender I could really need your help here... After some testing, the Regista system seems to work half-decently but the Halfback system is completely useless.
  14. I'm trying to make 2 versions of a 433 work (4141 DM Wide in exact FM terms, but it plays like a 433). The 2 systems look similar on paper but there's a big difference in how they (should) play. I'm testing both systems with Bayern. They're the strongest team in the German league, they have the squad to play a possession based 433. If I can't make it work with Bayern, I'm basically lost and shouldn't bother trying with other teams... What am I trying to achieve? - 2 different tactics from the same shape/formation to attack opponents in different ways - functional possession: Winning games is, of course, the main goal. But we want to play in a dominant way. I don't need to completely dominate possession but I'd prefer if we kept 50+ percent possession in most games. Being dangerous but also keeping possession a bit. - replicate the way Bayern have generally played over the last decade under Van Gaal, Guardiola, Heynckes and now Flick (I'm aware there are differences in how they played under the different managers but the general emphasis on 'dominant football', patient buildup until an opening comes up has always been the same). Both systems employ 'Positive' mentality and a split pressing block. All front 5 players (with the exception of Thiago) have a PI to press more. I use 'dribble more' and 'be more expressive' (both only apply to the attacking phase in the final third) as it suits my players. But this is not something I insist on. If it helps to enhance performance, I'm more than willing to change this. Non negotiables in the playing style: - Play out of defense - GK distribution to defenders & fullbacks - Work ball into box - The use of either a 433 or 4231 system Here are my 2 systems: The first one (433 Halfback) spreads the ball around with a Playmaker and attacks the opponent on the flanks. The second one (433 Regista) makes use of a creative passer from deep to funnels the buildup inside to the Regista. 433 Halfback: A HB to protect the 2 CB, while both FB run up and down the flanks to provide natural overlaps on the wings (thus no additional overlap TI). Thiago as the focal point in MF in as the sole playmaker and a BBM next to him to provide runs from the center. Both wings on support duty as they should provide double-teams with the attacking Fullbacks. However, Gnabry is a bit more of a finisher (IF role) while Coman is more of a dribbler/creator, so I have him as a IW. Lewandowski can basically morph into any role you want him to play, but for a possession based style I thought a deeper role like DLF-a should do well. The idea is to attack teams down the flanks and use Thiago in a central role to spread the ball around. Maybe I should add 'focus play down left/right flank' TI with the natural overlaps on the wings? 433 Regista: Same TI as above but different roles. Thiago is in a Regista role and should be THE focal point of our buildup play (think Xabi Alonso or Pirlo). He's basically our Quarterback. Both Fullbacks are in IWB roles to screen and protect the Regista. In front of the Regista are 2 runners from deep who should attack space between the lines. Müller has 20 'off the ball' and outstanding mentals in general, with 18 'stamina' and 19 'natural fitness', so he can run up and down the seams all game. With Müller in an attacking role to create overloads on the left with Coman, I've set Gnabry to an attacking duty on the right. Lewandowski remains in his DLF role. Maybe I should add 'focus play through the middle' TI with the Regista and both IWB in central areas? That was my way of thinking. So far the results have been fairly poor, so I need your help to improve both tactical setups. At the moment I'm struggling even against teams like Köln or Paderborn (1-1 in both games, with around 42 percent possession). What am I doing wrong? What do I have to change to make it work?
  15. That sounds exactly what I'm looking for and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. Feel free to teach me/us - whether in this thread or in an own related topic...
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