World Cup Betting Thread - with as much discussion as possible!

[EnterUsernameHere]

Yep, my thoughts too. Going to swerve the England game, would be on Suárez to score but I don't like betting on players who are clearly not going to be fully fit.

[ReggaeBwoy]

Yep, my thoughts too. Going to swerve the England game, would be on Suárez to score but I don't like betting on players who are clearly not going to be fully fit.

Watch him go and virtually knock England out now :o

[EnterUsernameHere]

I'd take that

[football_master_94]

I've gone for over 2.5 in the England game as it was the only bet I've felt 'comfortable' with.

[ScottMac]

Had a tenner on England not to qualify since the start of the tournament so for that purpose hoping Uruguay do the business tonight.

[Emersonlfc]

Yep, my thoughts too. Going to swerve the England game, would be on Suárez to score but I don't like betting on players who are clearly not going to be fully fit.

Just your luck ATM.

[EnterUsernameHere]

Haha nah, seen him enhanced to 2/1 on boylesports twitter so got on last minute. Only £5 though, nowhere near as much as I usually bet.

[Anti Spiral]

Never bet on England.

[Lermon]

I bet someone had Uruguay to win 2-1 Suarez first goal scorer.

[aiston]

Had £30 on Home (Uruguay) or Draw @ 2.

Doesn't make up for the loss, but monies for a bit of drink.

[Samamatara]

http://att.bbs.skykiwi.com/forum/201406/20/092130jvro7qn7cvsuj77z.jpeg

this guy..

[Emersonlfc]

@BetfairSports: Keisuke Honda has been involved in four of Japan's last five goals at the World Cup (3 goals, 1 assist).

[EnterUsernameHere]

On Japan to win @ 3/2 tonight. They weren't too bad against Ivory Coast until Drogba came on, think they'll be too much for Greece.

[Emersonlfc]

Japan and Honda to score first.

[gillsminnow]

These were two of the bets I made due to glitches in their websites:

These were the others:

[Samamatara]

those benzema/muller/neymar/suarez ones look promising

[gillsminnow]

Yeah remains to be seen if they'll pay out on them though!

[Readingfanman]

Another night, another whack on Betfair. Lost a bit betting on Colombia -1 this afternoon, and then backing the draw in the England game this evening and not laying off, but managed to make that back and then some on the Greece game, backing the draw as soon as Greece went down to 10 men.

[Samamatara]

japan not getting the win against 10 men cost me dearly, as I had a medium sized treble on Colombia/Uruguay/Japan.

Not sure what to go for tomorrow, already have the 3 favourites in a multi and nothing stands out really.

[Emersonlfc]

I can see tonight's late game being a bore feast again.

I like the look of France -1.

[lennon67]

Japan not winning cost me £340, I thought they would have won with a couple of goals as well. I'll not be backing them again.

[GodfreyBloom]

I can see tonight's late game being a bore feast again.

I like the look of France -1.

You were right for all the wrong reasons

[Emersonlfc]

You were right for all the wrong reasons

I mean't the game on after this one.

Glad -1 France looks set to come in even though they are throwing it away here late on. Also go on France to win at evens too.

These late goals helping my minnow Method bet too.

[merry_miller]

Acca on Aguero, Balotelli, Muller, Suarez top team scorers @ 138/1

Need Aguero & Balotelli to pull their fingers out

[Rhino]

Need an Ecuadog win to complete a pretty pleasing accumulator.

I'm such a boring gambler compared to some of you, I go for higher stakes on much lower odds and try the slow and steady growth.

[ReggaeBwoy]

I predicted over 1.5 before half time at 3.00. Got a lot of other accumulators waiting though as I bet for bigger stakes.

[scotty206]

Will net £625 if France win the WC.

Keep it up please

[SSC]

Thoughts on equador?? Lost a bit recently but £20 on a Benz win cast had been useful @17/2

[ShyBaldBuddhist]

Tried my first minnows method bet for a few games in the groups and it looks quite promising. If Belgium beat Russia and both score I'll have 7/8 selections in. Only went for small stakes of 25p trebles and four timers for overall stake of £12 but should be a decent return as I can cash in now for £60+. Looks quite promising and think I will probably use it quite a bit on games next season.

[ShyBaldBuddhist]

Thoughts on equador?? Lost a bit recently but £20 on a Benz win cast had been useful @17/2

Personally I think Ecuador will win but I can see it being a tight game. Not a game I will be betting on as I can't see much value in the odds. Would have gone for E. Valencia FGS but bookies have got wise and he is very short now. Not like the 16's I got when they played England

[ReggaeBwoy]

Really surprised skybet had Honduras and Ecuador priced at 2.00 for under 2.5 goals. Weird one considering on paper it seems like it would be a low scoring game.

[gillsminnow]

Tried my first minnows method bet for a few games in the groups and it looks quite promising. If Belgium beat Russia and both score I'll have 7/8 selections in. Only went for small stakes of 25p trebles and doubles for overall stake of £12 but should be a decent return as I can cash in now for £60+. Looks quite promising and think I will probably use it quite a bit on games next season.

If you're just waiting on one game it makes sense to back clean sheet for the opposite team with the stake you put on.

So £12 on Russia clean sheet at Betfred @ 4.33

Belgium score - you're looking at around £60+

Belgium win & BTTS - you're looking at a very decent return

Russia clean sheet - £12 @ 4.33 = £51.96

So you don't lose out atall.

[gillsminnow]

For me the most ideal and appealing treble for the MM bet right now is Chile, Croatia & Uruguay.

[Philip Rolfe]

Random question about your method gills, since I've only just read it on the first page, your example betslip only has stakes on trebles there; do you keep your stakes to trebles for 3 matches/four-folds for 4 etc or spread it across singles/doubles etc?

[gillsminnow]

It's however many games you put on mate, the example betslip only has 3 games so it'd be trebles. WillHill I think is the most ideal site to do them with as they allow up to 30 selections which would give you 15 games if you so desired.

I usually work between 3-6 games

3 games = trebles

4 games = 4-folds

5 games = 5-folds

6 games = 6-folds

etc

It's kinda why you ideally want both selections at the evens or greater mark and I NEVER have both selections below the evens (2.0) odds as it's stupid to do that, you might aswell double your stake per line and skip that selection out. Will also never select anything under 1.50 odds (good MM accumulators can be used where teams are around 1.50-2.0 and the BTTS odds are above 2.0). Teams below 1.50 are usually expected to keep a clean sheet and it's not really worth putting a 1.3 shot in when you're aiming to hit back on average odds of 2.0 per game.

I did stay up til the early hours one night and work out the risk vs reward numbers and it definitively gave trebles (3 games) as the most efficient.

I can talk about this method a lot more as it's something I've been doing for a while now, when I was recording level stakes on these it was turning quite a decent profit but then I lost my sheets I was keeping track on.

[Philip Rolfe]

Ta, figured that was the case but just wanted to check really, it's an interesting approach.

[gillsminnow]

No problem, please keep me informed how you get on with it as I am finding it really interesting to hear how others are doing.

[Emersonlfc]

Got on E.Valencia to score the 3rd goal

[jamescrews1]

Got on E.Valencia to score the 3rd goal

same but a had him score first at betfred dd/hh so gutted he missed that chance before the first goal

[GodfreyBloom]

I love this Enner Valencia bloke, put a speculative £3 on him earlier at 52 to score a hat trick

Also had £50 on Ecuador to win @ 1.8

Looking good so far

[ShyBaldBuddhist]

If you're just waiting on one game it makes sense to back clean sheet for the opposite team with the stake you put on.

So £12 on Russia clean sheet at Betfred @ 4.33

Belgium score - you're looking at around £60+

Belgium win & BTTS - you're looking at a very decent return

Russia clean sheet - £12 @ 4.33 = £51.96

So you don't lose out atall.

Due to it being small stakes I'm just going to let it play out on this bet. I'm looking at a profit for it anyway and this way it gives me an interest on the Belgium game. When I use it during the upcoming season I'll probably put slightly bigger stakes on so I will be looking at covering bets then.

I really like the system and think it will be how I will place most of my acca bets next season.

[av3ry]

USA look a bit tempting at 17/4. Portugal are without Coentrao, Pepe, Ronaldo, Almeida and got thrashed by Germany whereas the United States are on a 4 match winning run.

[MichaelBrown]

Weird that Costa Rica were 1/10 to finish bottom of their group.

EDIT: about £60 down so far, been so unlucky. Costa Rica done me on 3 seperate bets (9 fold with Uruguay, worth £240, bottom of groups, £103 and Italy game, £110) so I'm naturally fuming.

[av3ry]

They screwed me out of the bottom of groups bet aswell, and my treble of them, Honduras and Australia getting 0 points.

[Plumble]

Yeah, Costa Rica screwed me over too! Bottom of groups, no goals also. If Uruguay beat them, i would have won £780 off an accumulator. Annoying because from the 7 teams, it was my 'banker'

[SSC]

Argentina -?

[scotty206]

Anyone who had Costa Rica to qualify is clearly mental and should seriously stop betting

[Jonno-Blood]

Argentina -?

Didn't work out so well for me

[Lermon]

Anyone who had Costa Rica is a genius.

I had Iran with an advantage of 2 goals come in. That's my claim to a brilliant selection. All the rest flunked

[GodfreyBloom]

Had Argentina to win -1 for £20 and -2 for £10, lost, tried to gain something back by backing the draw at 0-0 for £14 (to earn £16) in the 88th minute (fml)

Then had £10 on Germany -1/Bosnia to win. Also fml

Terrible, terrible day so far.