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Welcome to the Database and Research forums. Here you'll find some information on data in FM21 and some issues that come up frequently.
We cannot stress enough how important it is to follow the advice given in the opening post of every thread please. We are more than happy to engage in discussion but it needs to be valid and constructive; you're unlikely to get a reasoned response (or a response at all) if you're not willing to follow the suggested guidelines.
We'd also ask you to play the game and see how players perform before commenting on subjective attributes within their profile. Those attributes may or may not need revising but it's always much better to see the bigger picture with how the game plays out.
If errors are made, then they are made in good faith. We would love it to be 100% accurate but mistakes can be made. If some data is incorrect, please respect that this is not a deliberate slight against your club or you personally! Remember there is an Editor for you to make amendments should you wish to.
Dates
The database requires dates to be added for transfers, playing and non-playing histories and updated contract information amongst many other things. Please include those when logging your data issues.
Regarding short-term loans
FM21, like every one of our previous games, does not include any player movements where short-term ("emergency") loans are concerned. Any loan that starts after September 1, in England, is considered to be an emergency loan and is therefore not included in the game.* One month loans are too short to include and do not duly influence the game play.
We only include long-term loans in the data. In England, this is specifically any loan that starts in the transfer window and ends when the transfer window reopens in January.
So the omission of any player on a short-term loan is not a data error.
* The only exceptions have been where a player has been loaned with a permanent move arranged.
Regarding youth players and inclusion of U16's
People have asked in threads 'why isn’t player X included?'
Players have to be least 16 years old as at 01/09/2020 (i.e. they have a date of birth no more recent than 31/08/2004) to be included in FM21.
QuotePhilip Rolfe said:
The rule we operate to is that a player who is 16 by September 1st of the starting game year in England can be in the game. This is when they can sign a scholarship and are no longer schoolboys. Anybody younger than that cut-off point will not be in the game because of child protection issues.Breaking News
Please refrain from posting news articles that have just happened and articles about player "X" and his move that happened yesterday. These are not data issues, they will be picked up by researchers and updated through the correct channels. If posting about missing transfers that are not represented in the data, please include the date the player signed for a club (or left a club).
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A common misconception is that star ratings reflect a player's ability in the game. They do not, they reflect the player’s standing at your club. So if you own the player, he is judged by your Assistant Manager. If you do not own the player, he is judged by your Scout. Naturally the accuracy of these ratings can vary dependent on the quality of your Assistant Manager and Scout.
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Jumping Reach - This is how good a player is at reaching a ball in the air. It is not how high the player gets his feet off the ground. it is linked to a player's height. As a guide our researchers have a table to use for players with varying heights. The taller the player the bigger the jumping attribute. The smaller the lower.
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On 14/11/2020 at 19:03, luisjavix said:
Hello, I want to report a problem with the data shown in the history of the league section of Sporting Cristal and FBC Melgar of the year 2014.
The correct position was:
1. Sporting Cristal
2. Juan Aurich
3. FBC Melgar
On the league history screen, Sporting Cristal appears in third place and FBC Melgar is shown in first place.We'd need a source for this please.
I've just had a quick look online, and seems to match up with this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Torneo_Descentralizado#Standings
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7 minutes ago, RobertPage said:
i really don't understand this. CA shouldn't even be considered when giving players their attributes. You most definitely shouldn't even have to consider dropping other attributes to justify raising another to where it should be. I've seen CA mentioned a few times in this thread and it seems an awful way to decide stats when they don't affect on pitch performances, which is the most important thing about attributes.
A player is the sum of their attributes so we always have to consider their CA. Their leadership does affect on pitch performance. You're right that we should rate attributes as they should be, although in this case we're talking about a 32 year who we'd expect to be in decline. So I wouldn't feel comfortable increasing his CA at this time. I really need to see more of him at Brighton before I'm in a position to properly review his profile.
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13 minutes ago, diddydaddydoddy said:
At Southampton, he captained them on occasion iirc and scored c1 in 4. When he joined a bigger club his leadership was nulled by the sheer number of other leaders on the books and his goal output reduced to c1 in 7 at best (don't have assist figures to hand but I'd be surprised if they were high), hence his leadership and finishing attributes. However as a senior model professional in the Brighton set-up his influence and therefore Leadership attribute could increase - maybe to 14 for now with a review after Xmas.
Cheers! Increased to 12 for now. Any higher bumps his RCA a couple of points above his CA and I'm not sure there's any attributes I'd feel comfortable decreasing at this stage. Can look again in Jan!
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7 minutes ago, Reddiablo said:
Re: Veltman
I would say he's run of the mill in his passing and technique. Maybe he stands out a bit more at Brighton in that area
Not sure about his technique, but his passing is ok. I have no qualms with it, all the Veltman haters will. (It's just trendy to diss the player but it's a bit rubbish)
Passing 13 is fine, technique 13 seems a bit high to me, let's put that at 12 (instead of 11 then)Cheers!
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On 14/11/2020 at 01:04, Brighton123 said:
@Simon Tipple - My thoughts on Brighton players data this year.
Ryan - Aerial Reach and command of area bump down 1. Very rarely does he claim a cross under pressure. Communication bump up 1, he's always shouting/talking to the backline. Positioning bump down 1 or 2. On a couple of occasions he's been beaten 1-on-1 and he's found himself in some strange positions outside of the frame of the goal. I don't think he needs to be made worse so could add another one to agility and reflexes (even though I think reflexes have already been bumped).
So we have a guideline for Aerial Reach that corresponds to the Goalkeepers height. 9 represents average for Ryan, which I think is fair. I agree with reducing Command of Area though so have made that change. His Communication had already been increased this version, as that was something that became a lot more noticeable with no fans in the ground! As you noted, Reflexes had also already been improved this year. I've nudged up his Communication and Agility by a further point and reduced his Positioning a little.
QuoteSanchez - Maybe a tough one, but could do with a boost in CA and PA. It seems he is very highly rated. He seems untouched since last year, which is odd after playing a full season at another team.
I'd welcome @ChaffRAFC opinion here regarding his time at Rochdale. His profile has been updated since last year although not any of the GK attributes as such. I bumped up his reputation given his debut vs Spurs but tbh due to his loan spells I haven't seen a huge amount of him in action to feel comfortable making significant changes myself just yet. It's still a bit unclear whether he's actually ahead of Walton for example in the pecking order, given Walton picked up the injury in the Chelsea friendly.
QuoteDunk - Pace down 1, he's not a 14 and I would add that 1 to his positioning.
I totally get why people would think he shouldn't have 14 for pace. It's a tricky number to really quantify but there's been a couple of occasions when I've been able to see him up close in this regard. There was an U23s games at Lancing when at half-time he was doing sprint from the goal-line to the half-way line and I was like woooah, he's quicker than I thought. I was also fortunate enough to go to a training session once where he was surprisingly quick. I guess that stuff has always stuck with me. I totally appreciate his initial acceleration isn't great but once he gets going he's not bad! If I reduce his Pace to 13, I wouldn't be comfortable with Acceleration 12, as I think there needs to be a more notable difference there. I'd be more inclined to drop Acceleration to 11 than Pace to 13. Historically, I've always felt his Positioning wasn't a strong point, I think we've covered that one in previous years and I also think back to Burnley away last season where I think he's been caught out a bit. So I get where you're coming from but I'm not totally sold on making these suggested changes.
QuoteWhite - His PA last year was no better than Dunk's I think. He's being talked of by Southgate and clearly fancied by a few of the top teams. Has it been given a bump? He's only got half a star left of improvement for me, which is not getting him a big team move in the game, or if it does, he'd never be a starter.
Fair point, I've bumped it up a little bit more.
QuoteVeltman - Probs to early for you to call but technique of 11 and passing of 12 look quite low. 13 each seems reasonable to me but waiting until January update makes sense unless you've already clocked it.
Based on what I've seen at Brighton so far, I'd be inclined to agree with an increase. However @Reddiablo, is a lot more familiar with Veltman than I am so I haven't rushed into any changes given the limited minutes he's had so far. If @Reddiablois agreeable I wouldn't be against a minor tweak here before release, but otherwise I'll probably hold off for now.
QuoteBernardo - Can't tell if he's already been cut a bit? Could probably do with a tiny bit more even if he has to be honest. Was very excited by him in the first season but just hasn't worked out for him.
I've dropped him a little way before Beta and again around the beta deadline (so not sure if latest change is in the public beta). I agree in that I thought he looked very promising under Chris Hughton, although I suppose any attacking intent after Bong would have impressed. I'm not keen on massively reducing him though as I think that could potentially see him a tad under rated at wherever he ends up next. His rep has been dropped to reflect his lower status in the pecking order here.
QuoteTariq Lamptey - I've read what others have said about him and your replies. I appreciate with his pace it makes it difficult to represent him how you would expect to see it stats wise. I do however think he's something incredibly special and if he's not termed a wonderkid in the game, he should be. In the save I've started I'm playing vertical tiki-taka, and Billy Reid actually advised me that Lamptey wasn't suited to that tactic! That'll be due to his low technicals. In real life he's very much suited to possession football and can play intricately, finding a solution a bit like Alzate can. My attempt at what he should look like (I have no idea what CA this would give him but have tried to consider how many CA points Acc/Pace take up). At the moment he's reported as operating at championship level when he's clearly top half prem level.
Crossing - 12 - First Touch - 11 - Passing - 12 Tackling - 12 - Technique - 12 - Off the ball - 15 (his movement is insane) - Teamwork - Saw you already said it was getting a bump - Vision - 10
Could cut pace down from 16 > 15 as you've said and I'd lower his balance as it looks amazing when he finds a away to sneak through a gap and rides challenges, but he does also go down a few times as he goes so quickly it doesn't take much to throw him off. 15 > 13. Composure could go 12 > 11 to help allow some work in other areas.
He only has 4* on my save, Hoping his PA is one of the best in the world for a right back?
Other thing, I'm not even in September and he has a pre-concern about a new contract. All his interviews show him as being incredibly humble and doesn't strike me as someone who would cause a fuss so soon. Is that something you can alter in the background?
He's a tough one as I understand that those attributes give the appearance that he's been underrated but he really does have a very good CA for his age and a lot of potential. I would fully expect those technical attributes to improve in-game as he progresses. I also think a huge amount of his game is about running at players, or running in behind, and essentially making things happen! I'm not sure we've seen a huge amount of evidence, that his technical attributes are particularly strong yet. I'd also ponder, if they were that strong, why is he a wing back? Wouldn't he be better recognised as a winger/forward etc? I do agree that he's got a great ability to get out of trouble and find a pass - and it's genuinely great to finally get some feedback that references that. I personally think feedback like that is waaay more useful to me than "here's how his stats compare to X,Y,Z".
Suggesting a Pace drop is interesting, and just goes to show how opinions can differ as there was another post suggesting it should go up to 18! I think at the moment 16 is ok. A 15 would feel like a little like I'm trying to manipulate the attributes a bit too much to give some wiggle room. Similar to his Left Foot rating, which is one of those things gamers don't really see. Every value from 8 to 14 for example, will still display as "Right" but makes a significant difference to his overall ability. He's actually good with his left foot, so I'm not going to drop it just so that I can increase a few other attributes. It is sometimes these things that you can't necessarily see on screen that make impact on a players ability too.I've tweaked up his CA a little bit so accommodate some further changes. I've given him a fixed PA now as the PA in the beta was a minus range so could potentially have generated lower than I'm comfortable with. Contract wise that'll happen simply because he's paid far too little given his ability. I don't have a huge issue with that as it seems we're trying to agree a new deal IRL anyway. I've tweaked some of his mental attributes, but I suspect he'll still want a new deal in-game.
QuoteDan Burn - Heading, he wins them, but he's not good at them. 15 > 13
Agreed, changed.
QuoteMolumby - I've done a couple of test starts and noticed his natural fitness isn't fixed? Seems the way he returned from such a serious injury and his general athleticism points towards a high rating. 15?
Fair, changed.
QuoteLallana - Driven by Liverpool researcher but leadership of 11 could be looked at in the future, and I'd be tempted to tweak him to give him an increase to vision. Not saying extra CA boost though. I noticed this last year but I'm surprised by his low finishing and maybe long shots given he's scored a good amount of goals for a playmaker. Can't recall him consistently missing chances.
One where I'd look to @diddydaddydoddyfor his input. Certainly agree that his Leadership could be looked at as he's very much taken on that type of role both on and off the pitch.
QuoteBissouma - Seen he's also been discussed. I honestly believe he's our best player and one of the most complete players outside the top 7/8 teams. He could play and start in some of those teams and expect him to in the future. Starts as 3*, leading championship player but I'd have him up there with Dunk as the highest rated. Positionally and tactically since xmas time he's been outstanding and offered excellent protection to the backline. Can't remember him leaving them exposed. I have to disagree with you on his tackling, the silly fouls (in the past) have been down to poor decision making which has improved dramatically. I've nothing more to add than the stats people have offered, but his other non-tackling stats will not give him the real life numbers in the game that people have shown you.
Marking - 12 - Tackling - 15 - Anticipation - 14 (he always starts pressing the pass receiver before the pass is made) - Positioning - 14
Could lower finishing to 10. His long shots are good but he's missed a few clearer chances, particularly last season when he got forward more.
Hmm, not sure I'd agree that he's that level yet, but potentially yes. Fair point on Finishing, have dropped that. I've tweaked up his ability a little and improved his Marking, Tackling and Positioning but wouldn't be comfortable going to those level you've suggested yet.
QuoteAlzate - Has his best position been made CM instead of AMC this year? I'd tweak some of his versatility to give his composure and decisions a boost. He's so calm on the ball and always finds a pass under pressure. PPM plays 1-2's
He has yes. Agreed with the PPM. Still remember this moment when his composure and decision making was founding wanting against Chelsea. Moments like that concern me with proposed increases in those attributes, although it's fair to see he is very composed. I think I might tweak up just the composure for now and perhaps put that error down to concentration and decisions.
QuotePropper - Concentration lowered 16 > 14. Main thinking here is his no look passes that get cut out putting us under pressure. Would bump composure up 1 to compensate.
I get the point, although equally when I think about it as representative of his mental focus throughout the 90 minutes I don't think he's the type of player to drop off as the game goes on. He's very experienced now and pretty consistent with his actions throughout the 90 minutes.
QuoteMac Allister - PPM get's into opposition area or arrives late in opposition area.
Fair, added.
QuoteJahanbakhsh - Changes look good. Would remove runs with ball often and replace with moves into channels. I'd keep beats man repeatedly though, as he search's for an extra half a yard. I'd also add that to Gross actually.
Agreed, changed.
QuoteGross - As above and I'd decrease his flair somewhat.
Dropped his Flair, but not sure about adding the PPM.
QuoteTrossard - PPM moves into channels. Game v Man Utd for example, finds pockets of space to turn and get a shot off. Hoping despite his age there's a fair amount of room for improvement? Feel like he could be very good. Is now either footed, I was going to suggest a boost to left foot but not to either. feel the use of his left foot is due to him playing more centrally and needing to use it. Will see if it continues.
Not sure about the PPM, think that's just a reflection of his ability to find space. He uses his left footed loads, not sure it's just down to his position. That United game for example I think every shot was with his left!
QuoteConnolly - There is no way he is 179cm lol. Not sure why this has changed from last year? - Edit - Started a new save and he's 174cm. Can we fix it? Checked a few sites and they have him at 175cm.
Open question, how do our u18's and u23's CA and PA compare to other teams? Without going through and comparing them team by team manually, it looks like our youngsters don't stack up to other prem teams (particularly home-grown players and bought players that actually play u23 football and not sent on loan) . I've checked how the u18's and u23's have performed over last couple of years and they've been doing great. Especially the u23's. Might not necessarily be an issue with Brighton player stats, but more over hyped youngsters from larger teams making our players seem worse. Would be interesting to know how we compare though.
Thanks for your work again this year and as always, sorry for the long post!
Ah, his height wasn't set so was randomised. Fixed now. I'm not sure regarding U18/U23s, would take some further investigation.
QuoteEdit - Norwood's promotion clause. It was around last year too and forgot to mention it. Surely it should have been cashed at the end of the 18/19 season? he was bought in Jan 19 so should be in effect that season?
Edit - Haydon Roberts height not fixed, not sure what is. Have you got any info? He looks just shy of 6 feet, 178cm?
I don't have a source for Roberts height but it's set to randomise between 5'9 and 5'11..
Will get the Norwood clause removed.
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1 hour ago, acceptz said:
Have you ever played FM21 beta? He is not good in the game, he performs really **** in game actually.
We all know player with different position need different attribute to perform good with the ME.
Look at his stats in real life, he really did a good job as dr/wbr.
I watched every league game he played this season, he is one of the best player in Brighton in my opinion. The statistics on whoscored proved that too.
And again, he played as DL in only one match since he played in u18(I posted the record in my previous post) ,why did he got DL/WBL/ML positions in game?
Let's communicate in good faith please.
Yes, I have played the game. I have also watched every game he's played for the Albion.
As I've already said, his CA makes him one of the very best in his age group.
I inherited his positional data from our Chelsea researcher who has seen more of Tariq than any of us. The positional data you have is only a "starting position" and doesn't reflect how a player may have changed positions during a game.
I'm totally open to potentially reviewing that again at some point in the future but it's not something I feel needs urgently changing.
He's a really fun player to watch and he has tremendous potential. A huge part of his game is based on exploiting his tremendous Acceleration and getting the team up the pitch. It's fun and exciting and I love watching him play.
I've already tweaked him a little bit, and I'll look at tweaking a little bit more, but we're not going to see significant changes. It's so early in his career and his game involvements are so specifically about getting the team up the pitch, taking on the full-backs, getting in behind, there simply hasn't been a huge amount of evidence to support significantly higher mental or technical attributes at this stage.
@Brighton123 - Thanks for the detailed feedback. I'll get back to you when I've had an opportunity to sit down and take a proper look at your suggestions.
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36 minutes ago, SFC_Jordi said:
Not sure if it's been posted but Adam Lallana still has a sell on clause due to Southampton - I assume this should be removed?
Thanks - this will be removed for the full release.
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2 hours ago, GrimX said:You guys love to break our hearts and disappoint us, but may we at least know why that is the cut off date, I mean if the bundesliga changed their age eligibility rules for this kid surely he is something special, a wonderkid, a record breaker, a rule changer, they must see him as the next generational talent. Im sure he'd want to be in the game, and considering he already has quite scoring record at the youth level for club and country, you are basically erasing a part of german football history
The gaffer sums it up pretty well..
I think that’s quite enough on this.
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8 minutes ago, _mxrky said:
Zak Sturge in Brighton U18s is listed as 5’11. That’s incorrect. He’s 6 foot 2
pace of 15 and acceleration of 13 is too low.
12.31 in 100m and that was 2 years ago at 15 = fastest in the entire county for his age group.
https://www.thepowerof10.info/athletes/profile.aspx?athleteid=947800His height and attributes are randomised at the moment as we haven't been able to see him play yet. Thanks for the info.
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5 minutes ago, Rags89 said:
@Simon Tipple Hi Simon, a bit of extra data here for your consideration. Your point is a fair one re tackles. A player maybe in the position where he's making a lot of tackles simply because of opposition movements, and his position relative to that. However, the data below also shows the amount of times he has been dribbled past which may contextualise his raw tackling stats a bit better.
Appreciate that and it is a better stat but I still think it's his physical ability and work rate that is helping him to win the ball more than his actual tackling ability. The number of times he's given away stupid free-kicks with misjudged tackles over his time with us has been infuriating.
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On 10/11/2020 at 20:40, tiotom92 said:
A couple of immediate thoughts from a Brighton fan:
Bissouma having 10 tackling is very very harsh. He's a very good tackler and had the 9th highest tackles per 90 minutes for a centre mid last season according to whoscored.com. I think the majority of Brighton fans would agree that tackling is arguably one of, if not his best attribute, so it's disappointing to again see that it is not only low but is one of his lowest attributes! He had the same number of tackles per game as Fabinho last season yet he has 10 tackling and Fabinho has 16. For example, the same website gives tackling as Bissouma's biggest strength based off of his stats.
Lamptey is just underrated all round. I don't mean to be cheeky but watching games is my evidence. I understand that attributes are mostly based on last season but he has been quality in (almost) every game both post-lockdown last season and this season, and it very much looks like it is ability rather than form. It's criminal that he has the same star rating as the likes of Glenn Murray, Jahanbakhsh and Bernardo. Also he regularly tops the weekend sprint speed charts (one example here), so 15 pace seems harsh. Admittedly he has 20 acceleration but I'd still increase his pace to roughly 18.
I'd also argue that Propper and Gross should be downgraded in general because they were both poor last season, whereas Bissouma and Maupay appear to be underrated. Obviously this is subjective though!
Other than that looks the squad looks about right - glad to see Ryan got his deserved downgrade
Bissouma
I disagree with your opinion that he's a very good tackler. I don't think the number of tackles made in a game necessarily reflects "very good" tackling either. I think since the re-start (well, perhaps the couple of games before everything shut down) he's been putting himself about more and I think that's been reflected in his improved CA (+6) and attributes - Aggression (+4), Anticipation (+1) , Bravery (+1), Decisions (+1), Marking (+1), Positioning (+1), Tackling (+1) & Teamwork (+1). Combined with his pre-existing Acceleration, Strength & Work Rate for example his contribution in terms of winning the ball back has really improved but I wouldn't put that down to how he's using his other attributes rather than specifically his tackling.Lamptey
I think the way double digits and colours visualise a profile create an impression that's not really reflective of just how good he is in the game. As ever I would suggest using him in game, seeing how he performs and seeing how he develops. His CA makes him one of the very best in his age-group. I'm not convinced his Pace should be that high (and fwiw if it were that's a +4 to his already high CA). I think his initial acceleration is superb but his pace isn't quite as impressive. There was a game earlier this season for example where he got in behind but was caught by the covering defender. His game is so much about his Acceleration, and getting at players going forward, I don't think there's a huge amount of evidence to support significantly increased technical attributes. He's put in some tackles that look great, but it's often come about just because he's so quick to get there. He's got plenty of potential to develop these attributes in game. There's already been some tweaks (notably teamwork) that have gone in but weren't in time for the beta.
16 hours ago, marcocepeda00 said:Steven Alzate's shirt number is 36 in my save when it's 17 in real life. Also his numbers seem to be completely unchanged which is crazy considering he became a first team regular and proved himself to be one of Brighton's best midfielders and arguably their most technically gifted player. He is also listed as a fringe player which definitely has to be fixed too.
His number is 17 in the DB so I'm not sure why you can see 36. His attribute values should only change if they've improved or regressed. Keep in mind last years data was updated after the Jan update. There's been a handful of tweaks that'll go into the final data but he's our 4th best center-mid behind Lallana, Propper and Bissouma which I think is reasonable.
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14 minutes ago, Fire_03 said:
Kastenmeier is changed
Schäfer set as a Scout as mentioned
Ok, will change Allofs and VucicStrange - Bellinghausen is set as Assistant Manager.
I will make further research, why he is a coach.@Simon Tipple could you please check this for me
It'll be due to Thomas Kleine also being set with the same job.
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Welcome to the Database and Research forums. Here you'll find some information on data in FM21 and some issues that come up frequently.
We cannot stress enough how important it is to follow the advice given in the opening post of every thread please. We are more than happy to engage in discussion but it needs to be valid and constructive; you're unlikely to get a reasoned response (or a response at all) if you're not willing to follow the suggested guidelines.
We'd also ask you to play the game and see how players perform before commenting on subjective attributes within their profile. Those attributes may or may not need revising but it's always much better to see the bigger picture with how the game plays out.
If errors are made, then they are made in good faith. We would love it to be 100% accurate but mistakes can be made. If some data is incorrect, please respect that this is not a deliberate slight against your club or you personally! Remember there is an Editor for you to make amendments should you wish to.
Dates
The database requires dates to be added for transfers, playing and non-playing histories and updated contract information amongst many other things. Please include those when logging your data issues.
Regarding short-term loans
FM21, like every one of our previous games, does not include any player movements where short-term ("emergency") loans are concerned. Any loan that starts after September 1, in England, is considered to be an emergency loan and is therefore not included in the game.* One month loans are too short to include and do not duly influence the game play.
We only include long-term loans in the data. In England, this is specifically any loan that starts in the transfer window and ends when the transfer window reopens in January.
So the omission of any player on a short-term loan is not a data error.
* The only exceptions have been where a player has been loaned with a permanent move arranged.
Regarding youth players and inclusion of U16's
People have asked in threads 'why isn’t player X included?'
Players have to be least 16 years old as at 01/09/2020 (i.e. they have a date of birth no more recent than 31/08/2004) to be included in FM21.
QuotePhilip Rolfe said:
The rule we operate to is that a player who is 16 by September 1st of the starting game year in England can be in the game. This is when they can sign a scholarship and are no longer schoolboys. Anybody younger than that cut-off point will not be in the game because of child protection issues.Breaking News
Please refrain from posting news articles that have just happened and articles about player "X" and his move that happened yesterday. These are not data issues, they will be picked up by researchers and updated through the correct channels. If posting about missing transfers that are not represented in the data, please include the date the player signed for a club (or left a club).
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A common misconception is that star ratings reflect a player's ability in the game. They do not, they reflect the player’s standing at your club. So if you own the player, he is judged by your Assistant Manager. If you do not own the player, he is judged by your Scout. Naturally the accuracy of these ratings can vary dependent on the quality of your Assistant Manager and Scout.
Attribute definitions/explanations
Jumping Reach - This is how good a player is at reaching a ball in the air. It is not how high the player gets his feet off the ground. it is linked to a player's height. As a guide our researchers have a table to use for players with varying heights. The taller the player the bigger the jumping attribute. The smaller the lower.
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Please post any data issues related to Ireland here.
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Please post any data issues related to Italy here.
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Please post any data issues related to India here.
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Please note that any non-data issues for India should be posted in the appropriate thread within the League Specific Issues forum. This would include issues such as league scheduling, league table sorting rules and match rules.
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Please post any data issues related to Iceland here.
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Please note that any non-data issues for Iceland should be posted in the appropriate thread within the League Specific Issues forum. This would include issues such as league scheduling, league table sorting rules and match rules.
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Please post any data issues related to Hungary here.
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Please post any data issues related to Hong Kong here.
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Please post any data issues related to Holland here.
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