SI Staff Ed Hewison Posted November 23, 2020 SI Staff Share Posted November 23, 2020 Please post any data issues related to Scotland's Championship, League One, League Two and the leagues below (Levels 2, 3, 4 & below) here. As much of the data is subjective we’d ask that you respect everyone’s opinion and accept that the final decision is that of our club researchers and our heads of research. We also request you please adhere to the following three point plan when posting in the data topics: · State what you think is specifically wrong with a particular piece of data. · State what you think the data should be. · State reasons/proof for your suggested corrections/improvements. Please note that any non-data issues for Scotland's Championship, League One, League Two and the leagues below (Levels 2, 3, 4 & below) should be posted in the appropriate thread within the League Specific Issues forum. This would include issues such as league scheduling, league table sorting rules and match rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpage2701 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) Dundee- Jack Wilkie is listed as 26 years old...he is 16... I'm obviously annoyed this has happened, but I assume this won't be fixed for a while. It would be good to get some clarification on if changing their age will mess up the PA etc Edited November 23, 2020 by Mpage2701 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ed Hewison Posted November 23, 2020 Author SI Staff Share Posted November 23, 2020 27 minutes ago, Mpage2701 said: Dundee- Jack Wilkie is listed as 26 years old...he is 16... I'm obviously annoyed this has happened, but I assume this won't be fixed for a while. It would be good to get some clarification on if changing their age will mess up the PA etc Cheers for raising this one @Mpage2701. It looks like the year of his birth has been filled in incorrectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpage2701 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Ed Hewison said: Cheers for raising this one @Mpage2701. It looks like the year of his birth has been filled in incorrectly. Is it worth me just carrying on or is this something than can be fixed short term? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ed Hewison Posted November 23, 2020 Author SI Staff Share Posted November 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, Mpage2701 said: Is it worth me just carrying on or is this something than can be fixed short term? I'd carry on for now. Apologies for this issue. It's one we'll fix for the next data update we can do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcPTFC Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Whoever your Airdrieonians researcher is, the club were not formed in 1878 but in 2002 after the original Airdrieonians went out of business, it's literally on the team's Wikipedia page. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Milne Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 5 hours ago, MarcPTFC said: Whoever your Airdrieonians researcher is, the club were not formed in 1878 but in 2002 after the original Airdrieonians went out of business, it's literally on the team's Wikipedia page. You know fine well Marc that these things go through the SPFL for licensing, so they’ll have made that call. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Milne Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 7 hours ago, Mpage2701 said: Dundee- Jack Wilkie is listed as 26 years old...he is 16... I'm obviously annoyed this has happened, but I assume this won't be fixed for a while. It would be good to get some clarification on if changing their age will mess up the PA etc That’s entirely my fault, sorry. Jack was added very late on and I’ve irritatingly got one digit wrong in the age. Shows what the slip of a key can do. 😒 Best solution in the short term would be to go into the pre game editor and sort it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Drundrige Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Very small thing, I played as Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic on the beta and they had red and black hooped home strip, but I notice in real-life (according to their Wikipedia and their club shop) they play in red and white hoops. (I haven't played the full game yet so I don't know if it's the same as the beta) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Not sure if this is the correct place... Just got sacked by Hearts in the first season for not winning a domestic cup. I got to the SF of the league cup and went out to Rangers in the 4th round of the Scottish Cup. Was top of the league by 14 points at the time. The Hearts board wanting to win a cup in the first season seems a little unrealistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATW Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 8 hours ago, Gizzy said: Not sure if this is the correct place... Just got sacked by Hearts in the first season for not winning a domestic cup. I got to the SF of the league cup and went out to Rangers in the 4th round of the Scottish Cup. Was top of the league by 14 points at the time. The Hearts board wanting to win a cup in the first season seems a little unrealistic. Not the correct forum mate but that is wrong. No manager in Scotland (outside the Old Firm - and even then) is getting sacked for not winning a cup if they are meeting their league commitment... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ed Hewison Posted November 30, 2020 Author SI Staff Share Posted November 30, 2020 On 28/11/2020 at 09:50, Gizzy said: Not sure if this is the correct place... Just got sacked by Hearts in the first season for not winning a domestic cup. I got to the SF of the league cup and went out to Rangers in the 4th round of the Scottish Cup. Was top of the league by 14 points at the time. The Hearts board wanting to win a cup in the first season seems a little unrealistic. That seems very harsh. We're already looking at why that is happening at a couple of clubs in game. I'll add Hearts in, to be reviewed. In case this is happening for anyone else managing Hearts, we have it on our radar to prevent occurring in the future. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustang97 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Jack Wilkie (2000065685) at Dundee FC was born in 2002 instead of 1993. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ed Hewison Posted December 1, 2020 Author SI Staff Share Posted December 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Mustang97 said: Jack Wilkie (2000065685) at Dundee FC was born in 2002 instead of 1993. Cheers, that one has been mentioned above. His age has been updated in the database. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcPTFC Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Stuart Bannigan at Partick Thistle appears to have been given a random number for his penalty taking attribute. Stuart has taken eight penalties in his time at Thistle and scored six of those, two of those eight [One miss] coming in the one game. Hardly suggesting that he gets a 18/20 or anything like that but it should be much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hamilton Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Minor one, Buckie thistle appears to have both their kits set as their home one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
musha_13 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 01/12/2020 at 03:48, Ed Hewison said: That seems very harsh. We're already looking at why that is happening at a couple of clubs in game. I'll add Hearts in, to be reviewed. In case this is happening for anyone else managing Hearts, we have it on our radar to prevent occurring in the future. I had same issue. I haven't been sacked in my game (yet lol) but noticed that board expected us to win a domestic cup but only expected us to reach the QF in Scottish Cup and League Cup so very contradictory as they are the only two cups in season 1. Thanks for looking into it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbowman6 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 This article suggests Donald Park still has an active coaching role in the Hearts academy. https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-coaching-guru-donald-park-former-teacher-hibs-golden-generation-wins-lifetime-achievement-award-3057633 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 On 30/11/2020 at 16:48, Ed Hewison said: That seems very harsh. We're already looking at why that is happening at a couple of clubs in game. I'll add Hearts in, to be reviewed. In case this is happening for anyone else managing Hearts, we have it on our radar to prevent occurring in the future. Just came on to report the same. Won 21 out of 23 in the league, lost to Rangers in the Scottish Cup Semi-Final and was sacked. Just started again to see if you can change the Cup expectations and this one's set in stone. Shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcPTFC Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Partick Thistle are missing a few players, albeit on the younger side but they've been in recent squads and one has recently made his debut. #20 Gospel Ocholi #24 Billy Owens #26 James Lyon All players are born in 2003 and are over the minimum age requirement. Lyon has since made his senior debut while Owens and Ocholi have both recently been on the bench, the latter two are central midfielders while Ocholi is a striker. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappypill Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 On 14/12/2020 at 20:07, lbowman6 said: This article suggests Donald Park still has an active coaching role in the Hearts academy. https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-coaching-guru-donald-park-former-teacher-hibs-golden-generation-wins-lifetime-achievement-award-3057633 Thanks, I removed him in the summer as he hadn't been mentioned anywhere. I've heard he's working part time with youngsters but not had an age group confirmed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patti Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Minor one. William Baynham (Queen's Park)(ID:2000026049) name is spelled as WIll Baynham. The second letter of the first name is a capital letter. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Easy Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Scottish Cup issue, raised this last year. But still not right, I get there was slight changes from last year but its not even close to correct. Loads of clubs appear as time goes on that shouldn't be in it. https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish-cup/format-rules/ There's the link to who should be in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hamilton Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Bob Malcom is missing as Kelty hearts assistant manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giro Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, Chris Hamilton said: Bob Malcom is missing as Kelty hearts assistant manager He shouldn't be? He's contracted with them in the database. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hamilton Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 31 minutes ago, Giro said: He shouldn't be? He's contracted with them in the database. Only showing Barry Ferguson when I load the game using the original database and a large player count Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giro Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Chris Hamilton said: Only showing Barry Ferguson when I load the game using the original database and a large player count Because he's an assistant in a 'non-playable' team, you're probably not going to get him in your game unless you go into advanced database and load up all players/staff from Scotland or Lowland League. Their chairman, GK Coach and 1st team coach are also in the db. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hamilton Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 27 minutes ago, Giro said: Because he's an assistant in a 'non-playable' team, you're probably not going to get him in your game unless you go into advanced database and load up all players/staff from Scotland or Lowland League. Their chairman, GK Coach and 1st team coach are also in the db. Ideal thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpage2701 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 A couple of traits I feel should be added to Danny Mullen of Dundee -Comes deep to receive ball -Plays 1-2s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchStrapzy Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Raith Rovers’ Regan Hendry is listed as an only right footed player, whilst it is very much the opposite. Youngster Jack Smith has number 30 instead of 16 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPompey Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 oops Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
podgejbf Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Stirling Albion have appointed two new analysts to their team that weren't included on the winter update: https://www.stirlingalbionfc.co.uk/performance-analysis-recruitment/ Raviteja Sriramaneni Jordan Frampton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcPTFC Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 James Maxwell, on loan at Queen of the South from Rangers, was born in Crewe (England) according to his Transfermarkt profile page. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATW Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 On 18/03/2021 at 17:11, podgejbf said: Stirling Albion have appointed two new analysts to their team that weren't included on the winter update: https://www.stirlingalbionfc.co.uk/performance-analysis-recruitment/ Raviteja Sriramaneni Jordan Frampton Thanks. Will make sure we get this in for '22 11 hours ago, MarcPTFC said: James Maxwell, on loan at Queen of the South from Rangers, was born in Crewe (England) according to his Transfermarkt profile page. Thanks, I believe this is now fixed but won't show until '22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hamilton Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/ayrshire/burnley-partnership-could-huge-ayr-24146558.amp Ayr United and Burnley have an affiliate now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATW Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 On 31/07/2021 at 12:06, Chris Hamilton said: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/ayrshire/burnley-partnership-could-huge-ayr-24146558.amp Ayr United and Burnley have an affiliate now This has been picked up by the Burnley/English Research Team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe5p Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) I am sure these will have been picked up but wanted to flag just in case. Shettleston Juniors (5201838) are now called Glasgow United. BSC Glasgow (61069263) is a complex one. The club split, with registration in the Lowland League retained by the team now called Broomhill FC. BSC Glasgow (the club brand etc.) now play in Division 4 of the West of Scotland Football League. Incidentally, the competition structure of the West of SCotland football league changed again this season, with the introduction of Division 4. I appreciate Scottish lower leagues are not active, but in terms of the Database, there were various changes across different regions below the tier that has the Lowland and Highland leagues. I also think some of the changes are a step towards further restructuring next season, which would then become more permanent. Celtic B and Rangers B are also playing in the Lowland League for season 2021/22, with less certainty about how this will play out in future seasons. One issue it seems is that players over a certain age for Celtic and Rangers are not eligible for Lowland League games. This seems to impact players who are just too old for the B league games in terms of eligibility, but not deemed ready for first team football. They can play in some cup competitions for the B teams but not B league games and therefore are only eligible for a handful of games per season outwith first team availability. I know someone within the research team will likely have all of the above covered in advance of FM22. Thanks Edited September 26, 2021 by joe5p Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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