Redshift Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 So so predictable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Leadbitter's penalty so ****ing good. Rooney's, however... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Just knew it. Our confidence is shot to ****. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Rooney's penalty so good Young decided to copy it Utterly pathetic shoot out from the United players. Funny that the youngest, least experienced player took the best penalty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 can Rooney please feck off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 FFS. Not far wrong above. Scoring 1 of 4 penalties. Fecking **** Very well played by Boro though. Okay, they should have had at least one penalty against them (which we'd probably miss anyway), so well played. Some set on that woman in the studio btw. No chance of drowning there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Same as the last pen shootout against Sunderland. We cannot ****ing shoot. Worse than Sunday league standard of penalties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 What an "almost" week for Lingard though. Two shots in the crossbar, both likely to be match winners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 At least Rooney's was on target........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Some set on that woman in the studio btw. No chance of drowning there. Wouldn't mind seeing some handballs there. Does that even make sense? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Absolute shambles of a shootout from us. Knew we'd lose before the first one was taken. Four shootouts lost in a row now. Pereira with the best pen and he's the least experienced player but handled the pressure brilliantly. Rooney was always going to miss, he goes to the left 9/10. Carrick had missed when walking up for the pen, could see he didn't fancy it in his eyes. Young copying Rooney. FFS. Good chance of a trophy with Chelsea and Arsenal going out last night but the longer the game went on you knew we were going out some way or other. No excuses for that result and those pens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 ENG missed. ENG missed. ENG missed. BRA scored. Hmmm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 No surprise the English players all missed their pens so spectacularly. Big game bottlers the lot of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I mean all 3 of Boro's penalty scorers were English... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldberg Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Rooney came on & did nothing. He was completely anonymous in extra time. Memphis is a **** Nani. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 no he isn't cant have someone worse at being Nani then Nani Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Memphis now is nowhere near as good as Nani at the same age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldberg Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 no he isn'tcant have someone worse at being Nani then Nani I stand corrected. Nani actually scored & assisted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Entirely too soon on the Depay talk. He's come into a team that completely relies on him to do something where as Nani came into a team where people only noticed him when he did something good because we were all too busy fawning (rightly) over Ronaldo/Tevez/Rooney. I actually thought for a while in the second half he was getting into the game more, we actually got less threatening when Martial came on and was stuck out wide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 people writing memphis off after 13 games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 he also has 4 goals and 3 or 4 assists if we're having a go at him for that as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 What a mess that was. So toothless. Better be stronger v. Palace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Palace have been on a losing streak. Hmmmmmmm. Next game is us.... Hmmmm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 We're going to get Pardiola'd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 he also has 4 goals and 3 or 4 assists if we're having a go at him for that as well 1 in 12 then if we take out Brugge. Not quite the feat of his record in Holland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebsy Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Was going to watch the game in full today, but managed to spoiler it during ET last night, so have just watched the highlights. Looks like we were fairly poor and didn't create anything until the second half. Lingard loves hitting the woodwork whilst we are drawing We went with the exact team I posted I'd like to see, but it was obviously not good enough to win at home to Middlesbrough, sadly. Not that fussed as I've said for years I don't care much for the LC and it is certainly the lowest priority of the 4 competitions, and that's why I like to see the youngsters get a game along with the fringe players, but of course it would have been nice to get the win. Still, no new injuries which is the important thing for me coming out of a LC game, heading in to what will be a very tricky trip to Palace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 1 in 12 then if we take out Brugge. Not quite the feat of his record in Holland. why would we take out his european goals? i'm not saying he's been great, but he has scored and created despite being criticised for doing nothing. he's 21 and still adapting to everything. chill out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted October 29, 2015 Author Share Posted October 29, 2015 1 in 12 then if we take out Brugge. Not quite the feat of his record in Holland. If we take out goals scored in the 45th minute and goals v Brugge he has 0 in 11. What a stupid argument to make, just discounting goals when you fancy it. He hasn't been great, but he is a young player who needs to learn, give the lad time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Depay is not a problem yet. Our reliance on a 21 year old is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted October 29, 2015 Author Share Posted October 29, 2015 Depay is not a problem yet. Our reliance on a 21 year old is. Our reliance is on a 19 year old, not a 21 year old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Not really a problem if we play him in his position and he scores goals. Play him out wide with Rooney around is the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted October 29, 2015 Author Share Posted October 29, 2015 Not really a problem if we play him in his position and he scores goals.Play him out wide with Rooney around is the problem. I totally agree. Rooney either needs to be dropped (preferable) or pushed back to number 10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I totally agree. Rooney either needs to be dropped (preferable) or pushed back to number 10. Even at 10, Herrera is better. And mata. And Fellaini. He should be on the bench Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted October 29, 2015 Author Share Posted October 29, 2015 Even at 10, Herrera is better. And mata. And Fellaini.He should be on the bench Oh I agree. Considering everybody said LvG had big balls when he came here he doesn't seem to be showing them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I think Rooney is trickier than just drop him. He is the captain, the highest earner, well liked in the dressing room and I think that a lot of players look up to him on the pitch even though he is producing. Same to Gerrard at the end for Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebsy Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I'd rather him dropped than at #10. Changing frop #9 to #10 isn't going to change his awful first touch and ability to slow everything down on the odd occasion he actually does reel the ball in. He simply does not deserve to start any more. It makes no sense to keep playing him when he has been poor for 2 years. Playing someone back in to form after 3/4/5 bad games makes sense, doing so after 2 years of poorness does not. Our best 11 right now does not include Rooney. I would genuinely be happy to see him go in the summer, though with his wages and for other reasons I see the chances of that happening to be at 1% at the very best. I've said before though, he'll no doubt be hankering for a new 350k p/w deal soon enough and somehow justifying it to himself despite being an absolute shadow of his former self for a long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 stop hating, guys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Scholes still believes http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34668679 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 It's simple. LVG needs to go. Rooney has been poor but why is 100% of the hate at him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 the fix to Rooney being useless is to sack the manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Well there is no doubt he has been poor and deserves to be dropped. I do wonder how many goals he would score in a United team from a few years ago (as he is now), I reckon he'd get 15-20 quite easily. But with limited service a player with pace i.e Martial would be much more effective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted October 29, 2015 Author Share Posted October 29, 2015 I don't mind LvG, he's doing a job of steadying the ship and I think he has a chance of winning the league this year. But I do hope our next manager is more attacking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Mourinho could be available soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I wouldn't even joke about that. No thanks. And that's not because of this season either, don't like the way he manages his clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 the fix to Rooney being useless is to sack the manager? tbh he should be sacked if he doesn't drop him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 It's simple. LVG needs to go.Rooney has been poor but why is 100% of the hate at him? I'll give LvG 18 months. If things haven't improved by xmas then I will have to agree with you. Rooney has certainly declined but how much of that is down to LvG's tactics? I think a lot. It's happening to too many players now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Things won't improve. The PL is of a very low standard right now so even if united were in the title race by xmas means nothing when it comes to LVG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 LVG has certainly steadied the ship - we are much more stable defensively. But that has come at the cost of very little risk going forward. Fullbacks rarely overlap, and central midfielders rarely make runs forward. It's almost entirely up to the front 3-4 players to create and score goals (set pieces aside), and against other defensive setups with the organised teams of professional football these days, that often doesn't cut it. He has said it himself, "you create your own luck", but you don't do that by passing the ball around in central midfield with little risk. Probably easier for us armchair "experts" though. We don't have the immensely quality at back from years gone by, so it's tougher to get by with throwing the kitchen sink at teams. But right now it feels like the balance is a bit too much on the cautious side, and I'd like to see fullbacks overlapping a bit more frequently. Though in fairness it should also be said that Shaw did this plenty, so his injury has cost us. Really hope he is back to 100% fitness by next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 He has said it himself, "you create your own luck", but you don't do that by passing the ball around in central midfield with little risk. Yes, he says that but every single match he does the exact opposite. He just wants to keep the ball in the hope that the opposition team gets so bored and loses concentration and we get a chance to score. This is the most boring football I have ever watched from any top team in the history of football. I'd rather watch us just park the bus every match rather than this garbage possession game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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