Small, otherwise insignificant things which annoy you

[Äktsjon Männ]

I'm getting more and more annoyed with the life I'm wasting watching players and refs stroll towards each other before a card is issued. It takes so flaming long!

If they at least both strolled towards each other maybe it'd take less time. But no, apparently the refs feel way too important to move. In fact they can't even be arsed turning towards the player, the player has to walk around them. How come I have to watch this as a part of the key highlights package is a question only the SI coders can answer, I guess they have some sadistic tendencies.

[Mike7077]

Three more to add to this ever-growing list -

Passes aimed at a guy with his back to the action that bounce off his heels like he's a goalpost.

The way the team you manage is the only one that ever, ever takes a throw-in straight to an opposition player.

The way my players, when defending a throw-in, will just ignore the guy stood in acres of space by the touchline. He'll receive the ball, cross it, goal.

[Guest]

Defence splitting pass leads to a perfectly good goal, defender rushes the linesman complaining that the player was offside, happens almost every time.

[Koki]

On the backroom advice screen... once you've read all advice messages, it doesn't take you to the next advice message when you delete one of these message

[heathxxx]

Small, otherwise insignificant things which annoy you...

Hmm...

Does this count?

[shirajzl]

Every penalty is "controversial".

[Guest]

Small, otherwise insignificant things which annoy you...

Hmm...

Does this count?

Definitely.

[Mr_Whippy]

The lame ass commentary lines.

He should have put that away!

[roykela]

A tiny thing is that i can't make my youth players, who are in the first team, available for my youth team.

Doesn't really help me making them available for reserves when the reserves don't play any matches.

[LiquidFury]

Match Rating: 5.9

Criticism: "I think you're being harsh, I thought I played well in the last match"

Issue a warning/fine: Player X accepts his warning/fine without comment

[Mike7077]

The way, in a press conference, if you suggest your next match will be tough, you always get the same follow up question: "Your response suggests you have concerns about your team", or words to that effect.

No, I don't have concerns. I think I have a great squad. It's just that I'm managing a Greek team and going away to Chelsea for a Europa League second leg tie after losing 1-0 at home in the first leg isn't exactly easy. Like any normal manager, I'm going to pitch us as the underdogs we are. Oh, I can't point out the obvious gulf in class between the English Premier League and the Greek Superleague? Fine, no comment then.

[arsenalthebest]

I'd rather the keeper learned how to use his weaker foot. Mistakes are a part of the learning process. Besides, when a keeper is closed down on his stronger side he's just as likely to c*ck up trying to play himself out of trouble.

It's ridiculous that you can't train players to become stronger with their weaker foot in FM. In FM you tell a coach to teach players how to avoid going to their weaker side. In reality you tell the coach to introduce a training drill where the player will get

kicked in the nuts every time he touches the ball with his preferred foot.

if your manerging spurs i'll do the nut kicking for free- might even pay you for the pleasure

[Fredric Drum]

When signing a player who was released from a top level club, media will ask: "[Player X] was released by AC Milan failing to get a breakthrough there. Do you think you've seen something in him that others didn't" (actual wording may differ)

Me: "Well, I'm in Serie C so I don't know why you'd find it shocking that a Milan reject is good enough for me. Stupid question!"

[aderow]

My favorite one of all time is the way that any time an opposition forward counterattacking from the wing, when my full backs are now where to be seen, I love the fact that every single time he strolls straight to goal unopposed as my center backs just basically jog back in the middle of the pitch almost like they are on a string. They never ever go wide and close down the counterattacking player. But the AI manages to do it every time.

[suckerkevin]

1. Player thinks team is underperforming, but finished above expectation later on when the season ended. Next season, media ask me what i think of player X's concern of team underperforming.

2. Player X fouls player Y. Player X falls onto the ground. Needs treatment. Physio bring him to sideline. Wait for him to be treated. Then wait for him to walk to the referee to penalise him, before game continues

[lil ole me]

the wife whinging in the background about me playing FM......

[Koki]

AssMan: "Hmm, maybe we should field like 22 players every game because they all show signs of improvement and it would stifle their development if we dropped them now."

[Mike7077]

The assistant manager does have a habit of making it sound like not playing youngsters is equivalent to breaking both their legs in terms of their development.

[Äktsjon Männ]

It's a good indication of them needing to go out on loan though. The problem is, it's all too often almost impossible to find any takers.

[Mike7077]

True, but the assistant will say it about almost everyone. It's not like every youngster goes out on loan all the time. I just think it's quite funny how dramatic he makes it sound. Like I'm abusing their human rights or something.

[LiquidFury]

And some youth players are rubbish anyway, so it's not like it matters to you.

"Look, seriously, this winger is going to get worse if he doesn't get game time"

"I don't care. He's a winger with 2 for dribbling, 1 for strength and 1 for pace. He won't become a top player. How could he possibly get any worse?"

"He's not getting game time. The game.. with the runs and.. lack of.. ...offside..."

"Get the F out of my office you cretin! Oh, and tell Coach McNish to stop commenting on our match preparation. I know we're doing alright, because I'm the one who instructed it. I don't need an update every single week!"

[Äktsjon Männ]

True, but the assistant will say it about almost everyone. It's not like every youngster goes out on loan all the time. I just think it's quite funny how dramatic he makes it sound. Like I'm abusing their human rights or something.

Yeah, definitely. Similarly, I always feel a little amused about my coahces DEMANDING focus on match preparation.

[nedlug81]

How no matter how small the team that I'm managing upgrades their scouting range to include the entire region, and frequently other nations as well.

Small teams should only have 1 nation available - doubly so for amateur teams.

[CityAndColour]

"I want first team football"

"Okay I'll let you go at the end of the season"

"I can't wait that long"

"Okay I'll let you go now"

"Thanks, I'm glad you've seen it from my point of view"

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*Offers mutual termination, player is on £15 per week*

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I am left more and more amused on a daily basis by how illogically awful the player interaction is.

[LiquidFury]

CAC: I've had the exact same problems. It's even more laughable when the player is left 'shocked and upset' at being offered a mutual, when they're desperate to leave the club.

[Koki]

That sure is a bug, you might want to mention this in the bug forum

[Shadedancer]

"Get the F out of my office you cretin! Oh, and tell Coach McNish to stop commenting on our match preparation. I know we're doing alright, because I'm the one who instructed it. I don't need an update every single week!"

I'm getting quite annoyed by those mails regarding match preparation from my assistant coach too.

[Mike7077]

I'm actually really annoyed at one I've just seen. A player gets treatment on the pitch, but then physio trots off and the player stays on the pitch. Isn't it a Fifa rule that players have to go off and come back on again if they receive treatment?

[Guest]

I'm actually really annoyed at one I've just seen. A player gets treatment on the pitch, but then physio trots off and the player stays on the pitch. Isn't it a Fifa rule that players have to go off and come back on again if they receive treatment?

That's been a problem for a few years know, for me the whole injury in play scenarios are knackered & most do not work as they do irl.

Sometimes I do wonder if anyone at SI actually watches what is happening on the screen or just looks at the lines of code & assumes the visual representation matches what is in their head.

[Mike7077]

Amazingly, today was the first time I'd noticed that one. I also recently noticed that sometimes the physio will drag the player off to the byeline when the touchline is much nearer.

[Frankchickens1]

I get told waaay too frequently that my players are benefitting from exposure to first team football.

This would make sense if they were all kids,

but when I get told it about 26 year olds with over 300 career games I get a bit annoyed

[LiquidFury]

English Under 18s are grouped into geographical categories. One of those is Wales & West. That's all the welsh teams and the teams from the west. It's unrealistic for Wrexham, a team from north Wales, to be playing youth games against Exeter, Plymouth, Bristol Rovers/City and Exeter. It's much more geographically feasable for Wrexham to be grouped into the North West division, with the Liverpudlian, Mancunian and Cheshire sides, as they do in real life.

[Mike7077]

English Under 18s are grouped into geographical categories. One of those is Wales & West. That's all the welsh teams and the teams from the west. It's unrealistic for Wrexham, a team from north Wales, to be playing youth games against Exeter, Plymouth, Bristol Rovers/City and Exeter. It's much more geographically feasable for Wrexham to be grouped into the North West division, with the Liverpudlian, Manchester and Cheshire sides, as they do in real life.

Seems odd that SI wouldn't get this right.

[Shadedancer]

Playing a match. Get 3 players sent off during the match...

Curious, I reload and try the match again telling my players to 'stay on their feet'.

'Only' one player sent off in the first half...

Second half I tell my players to go in hard on the tackles, and no further cards to me....:confused:

huh? What's up with that judge???

[Mike7077]

To be honest, most fouls are really crappily animated. It's impossible to tell what the appropriate punishment should be. You get fouls where a guy comes up behind another guy, and the guy in front is considered to have committed the foul. Most fouls look like two players randomly bumping into each other. It's really frustrating how hard it is to judge refereeing decisions.

[LiquidFury]

To be honest, most fouls are really crappily animated. It's impossible to tell what the appropriate punishment should be. You get fouls where a guy comes up behind another guy, and the guy in front is considered to have committed the foul. Most fouls look like two players randomly bumping into each other. It's really frustrating how hard it is to judge refereeing decisions.

I slag off the referee after the game regardless. Usually to make up for their awful offside decisions. Yes I know they 'get them wrong sometimes for realism' but it's still frustrating.

[Mike7077]

I kind of hope SI have had a look through this thread. I've been quite active in it and I wouldn't want to give them the impression I'm not enjoying the game because, after mistakenly slating it on first look, I've really gotten into FM12. I think it's fantastic. Nevertheless, this thread shows that there are a tonne of kinks to iron out, especially in the match engine and the various animations. Would be great if they were paying a little attention.

[scott MUFC]

the offsides have been correct bar one on my game.

nothing more irritating that saying work ball into box, and players sky shots from outside the area regardless

[vurogj]

Column resizing on the squad screen is utterly broken. It's probably broken on other screens too, but I'm bored already of trying to make them fit. Which they definitely can because the Player Status column is THREE TIMES the size it needs to be, but it can't be shrunk any further. Trying just changes the size of various other columns. GNRGH.

[Äktsjon Männ]

Try the auto size thing to shrink the status column. Agreed though, why can't the column resize work like it does in every single other application there is i.e not drag everything around when you change one specific thing?

[Mike7077]

Anyone else noticing fouls being given when there's nobody anywhere near the player supposedly fouled?

[paganizer]

FM2012

Agent of PlayerX: PlayerX deserves a new contract

Me: I agree. He has scored tons of goals and I would be happy to give him a raise.

Agent of PlayerX: We want 19000DKK/month or no deal. (Which is around a ~1000% raise and almost half of my BSP wage budget).

Me: .... (<- speechless)

Me: I guess he will have to stay for the remaining 2 years of his contract at same wage instead of doubling his wage...

Agents (and players) need to do a reality check

[DanSpur]

FM2012

Agent of PlayerX: PlayerX deserves a new contract

Me: I agree. He has scored tons of goals and I would be happy to give him a raise.

Agent of PlayerX: We want 19000DKK/month or no deal. (Which is around a ~1000% raise and almost half of my BSP wage budget).

Me: .... (<- speechless)

Me: I guess he will have to stay for the remaining 2 years of his contract at same wage instead of doubling his wage...

Agents (and players) need to do a reality check

I get this on FM2011. A player on £9k a week suddenly wants £140k a week and won't accept anything lower. I can't have the private chat to lower the wage demands, greyed out.

[Mike7077]

Player with 15+ attributes for finishing and composure gets a tonne of clear-cut chances but needs about 20 to score.

Player gets in great position for a shot then lightly chips it into the keeper's mitts.

Player has six or seven options for a pass, turns round, hoofs it back to the keeper.

Player is near to loose ball. Player feels comfy on the patch of grass he's already on, thank you very much. Opposition player can jolly well have it if he wants it.

Goalkeeper nicely positioned to catch easy ball. Goalkeeper teleports from upright position to lying on the ground. Thankfully holds onto the ball.

It's a corner. It's a corner. It's a corner. It's a corner. It's a corner. It's a corner. It's a corner. It's a corner. It's a corner. It's a corner. It's a corner. Aaaand so on..

Opposition player commits foul. Free kick. Same player commits foul. Free kick. Same player commits foul. Free kick. One of your players commits first foul. Free kick. Yellow card.

"He's taking no chances there". Yes he is. Instead of clearing the ball or making the simple pass, he's opted for an opposition throw-in. Fairly big chance to take, if you ask me.

"Nobody considers a move for Player X viable." That would be the player I'm offering for £0 and hasn't played in two years?

"Club X would have to reduce its wage bill before making a move for Player X". So you're telling me that, despite my team being quite a big club and therefore having the odd decent player who isn't needed, there isn't a single club in the football world with the capacity to offer him the modest wages he wants?

[LiquidFury]

There's only one outcome here... Corner.

[tim tellean]

An Asst. Coach recommending a player to take set piece shots when the player is hurt, out for 2-3 months. Seriously, the freakin' guy is hurt.

[tim tellean]

Agreed, this is annoying.

[Mike7077]

"Player X shouldn't be taking throw-ins. A better choice would be Player Y".

Player X is my right back, though. Full-backs always take throw-ins except if you have a long-throw expert, and he only takes them high enough up the pitch for there to be a point.

[Koki]

Offside given after passes from the opposition... :-/

[Diegs]

Two things, histories and positions.

Histories first, not so bad this year but still annoying when it crops up: things in the wrong order especially, also if you release a player a couple of days after the season update day, that player will forever retain history for that new season (with 0 apps and goals).

Secondly, positions. Prime example, my current reserve left-back. He's natural in that position but then awkward at wing-back and completely unable to play centre-back. Add to that being right-footed and his left-foot is shocking - and yes you guessed it, he can't play right-back. Also DM's that can't play MC and AMRL's that can't play MRL annoy me too.