Baptista_8 Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 With the biggest tournament on the world stage well underway, who would you say fits into this bracket? Before the tournament, and now, i'd say the 3 undoubted world class talents are: Lionel Messi Cristiano Ronaldo David Villa Feel free to add to this and discuss, i'd probably put Xavi in as a fourth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Arjen Robben Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Depends what you mean by "world class". They're all in the World Cup, so in that sense they could all be mentioned. You probably mean the very, very best players, however, and in that case it's hard to argue with your two first choices. Then it will be more usual suspects tbh. Maicon Xavi Rooney And so forth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett.spurs Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Rooney has looked like a world class player? I've scored as many World Cup goals as he has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 26, 2010 Author Share Posted June 26, 2010 I never considered Rooney as world class even before this WC tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7zige Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Villa. Messi. Ronaldo. Lahm. Kaka. Robinho. Maicon. And Honda too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 So there are only 3 or 4 world class players in the world? :confused: To me "world class" simply means that a player is capable of perfoming consistently at the absolute very highest level of the game. You could put 100 players in this category, probably more. Whenever this comes up lots of people always say that there can only be 11 world class players i.e. one for each position, which is utter rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbert_o154 Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 I'd say world class means among the best 3-5 players in the world at a certain position/role. By that token, there should be roughly 20 to 30 world class players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 I'm going on quality, not how they have performed thus far. There is no doubt Rooney is a world class player, as in one of the best forwards in the world. He is the one player that will make or break England against Germany. If just basing on the matches so far, I'd say Forlan up front with Villa. They've both been great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott W51 Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Suarez? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanzim Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Ashley Cole, he always consistent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 26, 2010 Author Share Posted June 26, 2010 Apart from the 2 goals, Suarez was woeful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPS Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Apart from the 2 goals, Suarez was woeful Gerd Müller was pretty woeful apart from the 68 goals in 62 games too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Lucio . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Villa, C.Ronaldo, Messi, Lahm, Maicon, Higuain, Xavi and others Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool dude Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Lucio and Walter Samuel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPS Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Anyone spotted a stand-out keeper yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlyons Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Anyone spotted a stand-out keeper yet?Julio César. Tim Howard. Casillas, Buffon, and Lloris have been disappointing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Julio César. Tim Howard. Casillas, Buffon, and Lloris have been disappointing. Tbf the French back 4 didnt help his cause Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 From Brazil I think only Maicon and perhaps Lúcio have looked world class. Elano was great too in his first two games. The rest has done very little of note so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaga_4_parma Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Julio César. Tim Howard. Casillas, Buffon, and Lloris have been disappointing. Buffon only played 45 mins... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 gerard piqué Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlyons Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Buffon only played 45 mins...They weren't very good, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe__the__man Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Argentina - Messi, Di Maria, Samuel, Higuain, Mascherano. Brazil - Lucio, Maicon, Robinho, D.Alves, J.Cesar. Cote d'Ivoire - Drogba. England - A.Cole, Gerrard, Terry. Germany - Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Ozil. Ghana - Essien. Holland - Robben, Sneijder. Italy - Chiellini, Buffon. Portugal - Ronaldo. Spain - Ramos, Pique, Xavi, Iniesta, Villa, Xabi Alonso, Fabregas. Imo, they're the players that have either been thrust into contention for being called world class or played well enough to confirm their status as world class (or not played/played enough). I've probably missed players I meant to put in, so don't shout at me for it Obviously there's loads of players that have impressed that aren't up there (like Coentrao, Honda, Meireles, Sanchez, Kjaer etc) but you can't call a player world class based on a few performances in the WC, even if they all had good seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Sneijder for the Dutch too imo Oh, and Vidic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodmansee Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Kaka has been world class for some years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Brazil - Lucio, Maicon, Robinho, D.Alves, J.Cesar. Reputation-wise Kaká is world class too, even if on the pitch he barely is nowadays. Although Robinho is one of the best Brazilian players, I think few people abroad rate him as world class, probably because of his European career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodmansee Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Stop copying me PMLF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 the only place robinho's world class is in his dreams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICK_GIFF Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Can't believe no-one's mentioned De Rossi. Italy may have had a poor tournament but he's easily one of the best midfielders in the World. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Stop copying me PMLF I noticed after I posted that you had posted as well. Anyway, the problem with the world class tag is that it is more about reputation than it is about talent. Nobody (or few people at least) would say Lúcio was world class a couple of years ago even though he was just as good back then too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodmansee Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Lucio has been world class for years now in my eyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
perpetua Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 I noticed after I posted that you had posted as well. Anyway, the problem with the world class tag is that it is more about reputation than it is about talent. Nobody (or few people at least) would say Lúcio was world class a couple of years ago even though he was just as good back then too. I always thought Lucio was world class too. Probably can dig up posts of me being amazed at how Lucio was rated lower than Ferdinand in FM from back then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPS Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Argentina - Messi, Di Maria, Samuel, Higuain, Mascherano.Brazil - Lucio, Maicon, Robinho, D.Alves, J.Cesar. Cote d'Ivoire - Drogba. England - A.Cole, Gerrard, Terry. Germany - Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Ozil. Ghana - Essien. Holland - Robben, Sneijder. Italy - Chiellini, Buffon. Portugal - Ronaldo. Spain - Ramos, Pique, Xavi, Iniesta, Villa, Xabi Alonso, Fabregas. Casillas, Torres, Rooney perhaps? Plus, if you're having Terry you might as well have Rio. Mascherano is certainly not a world class midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett.spurs Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 di Maria Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
why? Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Mascherano is certainly not a world class midfielder. Good one. Tell us another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suge Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 I'd like to see Higuain play against a good international team and see how he copes. Just a tad overrated imo. The difference between him and Rooney is one of them plays for a club filled with World Class midfielders. The other doesn't. Yet they both scored 29 goals last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPS Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Good one. Tell us another. Here's one for you then, Veron is still world class. A proper midfield player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
20LEGEND Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 I'm not sure 3 games of football is an entirely appropriate judge of who is world class and who is not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPS Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 I'm not sure 3 games of football is an entirely appropriate judge of who is world class and who is not. I think its a bit of a knock about mate, not to be taken too seriously. Still got a bite for the Mascherano comment though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
why? Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Here's one for you then, Veron is still world class. A proper midfield player. He's certainly still a world class ball player, but a midfield of Verons would get destroyed at the top level, hence why you need a Mascherano in there to balance it out. A bite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPS Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 He's certainly still a world class ball player, but a midfield of Verons would get destroyed at the top level, hence why you need a Mascherano in there to balance it out.A bite. He's no Nicky Butt circa 2002 and you know it . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vynal Seven Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 I'm struggling to see the point of this thread other than, 'Name some really good players'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnabon09 Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Probably depends on what you mean. Some players are world class without actually having shown that much in this tournament (such as Xavi). Some players are not known for being super-great but are having a good world cup. The players that are world class in this World Cup and also has shown consistently that they are among the best in their position is: -lionel messi -david villa -maicon -ashley cole -lucio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlo116 Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 i wouldn't call di maria world class, maybe one day but when you loom at the argentina squad you can see why he's there but you don't say it will be di maria who will help them win the world cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 A better thread would be "Which players have surprised you the most", then you can include players like Honda, Gyan etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PluckaDuck Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Wesley Sneidjer has stamped himself among the World Class category not only this tournament but the entire season. He's not a World Class player by any stretch, but Brett Holman has had a World Class tournament, he's been brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomHAVFC Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Anyone spotted a stand-out keeper yet? Vincent Enyeama has impressed me, shame he made that dodgy mistake against South Korea but overall has been pretty good. Same goes for Itumeleng Khune of SA, Fernando Muslera of Urgay & Richard Kingson of Ghana. Despite him being cack in the Premiership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nattai Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Ryan Nelson. World Class. Or even better, Mark Paston. World Class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Fernando Muslera of Urgay What? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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