pouncer Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Calm down Docks Who will be vice-captain now? Rooney? I heard a rumour that Sol Campbell will be getting a knighthood and then will be declared captain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suge Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 ah right, ok Nicky Butt was our best player at the 02 one fwiw Nicky Butt was the best player in the tournament. Looks like Carragher & Terry although I think King is a better defender at club level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud The Weiser Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Quite glad tbh he wasn't fully fit due to his back anyway and I think Dawson has had a better season so for me should be there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Lampard maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 I can see it being Terry and Upson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suge Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Make your mind up wands, Terry/Upson or Terry/King? I seriously hope no more CB's are injured or else we'll be down to Shawcross *shudders* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 I would rather have Terry - King but I have a hunch it'll be Terry - Upson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Terry and King>>>Terry and Dawson~King and Dawson>>Terry and Upson>>>>Terry and Shawcross>>>>>>>>>>>>>any other combination of the above>>>>>>>>Terry and Carragher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericcantona7 Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 ah right, ok Nicky Butt was our best player at the 02 one fwiw I agree actually, but saying "he wasn't even as good as Nicky Butt for England" would've probably not helped my point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Capello would be best off fielding just 10 players now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 I agree actually, but saying "he wasn't even as good as Nicky Butt for England" would've probably not helped my point Dont worry I get your point. Just being deliberately awkward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 I love the way people are dismissing Rio's worth. This is the WORLD cup, full blooded tackles are not as welcome as they are in the premier league. We needed that calm head that can actually play a ball out of the defence. Fouls in and around our box will be the biggest threat to the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 I love the way people are dismissing Rio's worth. This is the WORLD cup, full blooded tackles are not as welcome as they are in the premier league. We needed that calm head that can actually play a ball out of the defence. Fouls in and around our box will be the biggest threat to the team. We have King for a calm head, though I agree that Ferdinand will be missed, especially given King's injury record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 I don't think people are dismissing Rio, they're just trying to look at ways of compensating for his absence. We can't panic about him not being at the World Cup cos that's just pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericcantona7 Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 I don't think people are dismissing Rio, they're just trying to look at ways of compensating for his absence. We can't panic about him not being at the World Cup cos that's just pointless. only a couple. but I'm surprised anyone could post comments like the following: England have dodged a bullet tbh, he wasn't in the greatest of form and had a pretty poor season by his standards. there was real danger of him being carried.I feel sorry for him but I think England will get over this very quickly and may even benefit. dodged a bullet seriously??? who the hell would be carrying him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Wayne Rooney's piggy backs are quite good apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 As much as I dislike Ferdinand, he'll definitely be a big loss. I think this leaves England very exposed to a quick or mobile forward (Diego Milito being an example of a mobile, but not quick forward, before the smart arses start) as he was the only defender who had any sort of pace. I have to say, though, Carragher has done exceptionally well for Liverpool in the big, big games (I'm thinking the first CL final against Milan) so he may well do an unexpected star turn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pouncer Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 I would rather have Terry - King but I have a hunch it'll be Terry - Upson. This, somehow we've got down to the bare bones at CB despite it always having been one of our strongest positions. Oh if only Woodgate was still alright. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 I wans't that confident in terry/ferdinand recently anyway, could be a blessing in disguise, as the saying goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllStar4 Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Any idea how long it takes to recover from knee ligament damage? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldberg Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Love whoever made the comment about Ferdinand being the best example of a player picked on reputation & not form by the manager. The new captain has been brilliant all season clearly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGartz Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 England thread?Rather have Ferdinand out than Barry tbf. **** off England thread. Hate all these forum librarians. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericcantona7 Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 I have to say, though, Carragher has done exceptionally well for Liverpool in the big, big games (I'm thinking the first CL final against Milan) so he may well do an unexpected star turn. was 5 years ago. By that judgement we'd be picking Neville tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boltman Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Terry and King>>>Terry and Dawson~King and Dawson>>Terry and Upson>>>>Terry and Shawcross>>>>>>>>>>>>>any other combination of the above>>>>>>>>Terry and Carragher Terry and June >>>>> All Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebirds4life Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 **** off England thread. Hate all these forum librarians. \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/ Sgartz = god Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 was 5 years ago. By that judgement we'd be picking Neville tbf. Except that Carragher's not a detestable ****. He's definitely not as good overall as he was 5 years ago, but my point was that he has proven over time that he can be trusted to perform at his highest level in the biggest games, whereas I'm not sure that Upson, Dawson or King (or Cristiano Ronaldo, for that matter ) could make the same claim. In a World Cup, I'd rather go with a steady hand sort of player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nistelrooy_uk_10 Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Gutted for Rio, and that's all I have to say really. Think Carragher would probably be a better replacement than the others though, not sure about king. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinamo_zagreb Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 nice news (just for WC, I dont want injury to anyone, but I dont like ENG national team... my nick says why) and if only Rooney and Lampard and Terry got injured, that would be awesome (but only on few weeks, just to miss this WC) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericcantona7 Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Except that Carragher's not a detestable ****. He's definitely not as good overall as he was 5 years ago, but my point was that he has proven over time that he can be trusted to perform at his highest level in the biggest games, whereas I'm not sure that Upson, Dawson or King (or Cristiano Ronaldo, for that matter ) could make the same claim. he may have proven it over time, but your evidence was one game 5 years ago in which Liverpool conceded 5 goals. I didn't really watch him last season, but did he perform in the 'big' games last season? because surely they are more relevant than what he did 5 years ago? I think Upson is awful, I'm not sure about the other two but if King was fit I'd definitely have him ahead of Carragher, plus if Carragher starts then who covers right back? It's amazing how not long ago we had Ferdinand, Terry, Carragher, Woodgate, all up there with the best centre backs in the world, plus King and Brown. I feel more for Rio though than for England, as he probably won't get another world cup, and normally I'd see the silver lining in him being more likely to be fit for next season, however every injury just makes it less and less likely he'll go for any sustained period without being injured in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Heskey tackling him above the knee, what a complete knob. Couldn't stand it if we won the World Cup and Gerrard lifted it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomHAVFC Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 Heskey such a loveable guy. How anyone could hate him is beyond me. Look at that face Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 That nose is so punchable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pouncer Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomHAVFC Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 James, Heskey is to me what Eboue is to you. Idol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericcantona7 Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 As someone else mentioned, there are other players who are more crucial to England.Capello has always said he picks players on form etc but Ferdinand is probably one of the best examples of a player picked for England on reputation. As one of the first names on the team sheet due to being captain rather than current form (which has been lacklustre due to not being as fit as he used to be), there was real danger of him being carried. I feel sorry for him but I think England will get over this very quickly and may even benefit. yeah benefited loads. England have dodged a bullet tbh, he wasn't in the greatest of form and had a pretty poor season by his standards. dodged a massive bullet imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 How we could have done with Rio today Some right muppets in this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7zige Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Rather have Ferdinand out than Barry tbf. this to add to ec7's post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongtom Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Couldn't believe some of these posts when i saw them initially. Ferdinand is a quality player and has pace. Once King (inevitibly) got injured, who do we have them, i thought? Facking idiots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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