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Hi, 

I’m looking to buy a new laptop which will run FM 20 on comfortably without slow reactions or any lag. I’m not fussed about the 3D match engine and will happily play with 2D classic and toned down settings? 
 

This is the spec of the laptop I am looking to buy, will this be enough. 
 

Intel® Core™ i5-1035G1 Processor
RAM: 8 GB / 
Would Intel UHD integrated graphics be enough to support the game?

Football manager would be the only type of game I would play. 

Or if there any recommendations for a laptop which would good at a £550 budget? 

Any help and advice would be much appreciated. Thanks 

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1 hour ago, Grifty said:

Yeah mine runs alright on Mac and has all the same features. There used to be an issue with the retina part of the screen, but was fixed ages ago.

 

Thanks mate, do you know if it supports cross save so I can carry on playing on my MacBook Air after playing it on my Desktop Mac? 

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29 minutes ago, shenfrey said:

 

Thanks mate, do you know if it supports cross save so I can carry on playing on my MacBook Air after playing it on my Desktop Mac? 

You just copy the saves over with a USB, that works fine.

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17 hours ago, shenfrey said:

I have a Mac mini (2018, i5, 32GB RAM 512GB SSD) and I am curious to know if anyone has any experience playing on a Mac and if it is any good or not? Does it run well? Does it have all the features of the Windows version? 

 

Just curious guys, thanks. 

Apart from the match engine it works fine on a Mac. 

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23 hours ago, shenfrey said:

I have a Mac mini (2018, i5, 32GB RAM 512GB SSD) and I am curious to know if anyone has any experience playing on a Mac and if it is any good or not? Does it run well? Does it have all the features of the Windows version? 

 

Just curious guys, thanks. 

You can download the demo and try it out. 

Macs are fine - but most don't come with a dedicated graphics card - so you'll be playing 3d matches on low-mid settings. 

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Hey sorry if this random but I have no idea who else to ask im new to the football manager world and wanted to no if this laptop would be able to let me play football manager thank you in advance and sorry if its in the wrong section I have no idea about laptops lol 

The laptop is LenovoIdeaPad Slim 1 - AMD A4, 64GB EMMC SSD, 14 Inch Laptop With Microsoft Office 365 Personal Included - Platinum Grey

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1 hour ago, andyeast31 said:

Hey sorry if this random but I have no idea who else to ask im new to the football manager world and wanted to no if this laptop would be able to let me play football manager thank you in advance and sorry if its in the wrong section I have no idea about laptops lol 

The laptop is LenovoIdeaPad Slim 1 - AMD A4, 64GB EMMC SSD, 14 Inch Laptop With Microsoft Office 365 Personal Included - Platinum Grey

Just checked the technical specs, and the answer is "not a chance". Not only is the processor poor for anything beyond Microsoft Word and some Netflix (it's below minimum specs), but it only has 64GB of storage and, importantly, the version of Windows it uses also doesn't allow Steam to be installed, and so the game couldn't be installed on it even if you wanted to try it.

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Hi,

I'm looking for a MacBook and I have two options due to my budget. My quesiton is that which one can run FM 2020 effortlessly? I also want to watch movies and take basic action on Photoshop on my new MacBook.

Option 1: https://www.walmart.com/ip/New-Apple-MacBook-Air-13-inch-1-8GHz-dual-core-Intel-Core-i5-8GB-RAM-128GB-SSD-Silver-2017-Model/788533857

Option 2: https://www.apple.com/us-hed/shop/buy-mac/macbook-air (left one)

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1 hour ago, tolgacansezer said:

Hi,

I'm looking for a MacBook and I have two options due to my budget. My quesiton is that which one can run FM 2020 effortlessly? I also want to watch movies and take basic action on Photoshop on my new MacBook.

Option 1: https://www.walmart.com/ip/New-Apple-MacBook-Air-13-inch-1-8GHz-dual-core-Intel-Core-i5-8GB-RAM-128GB-SSD-Silver-2017-Model/788533857

Option 2: https://www.apple.com/us-hed/shop/buy-mac/macbook-air (left one)

If you had to buy a MacBook, I'd go for the first one, but neither is going to run the game "effortlessly", as the processor in the first one isn't particularly good and is 5 generations behind the newest processors, and whilst the processor in the one in the 2nd link is from the newest generation of processors, it's basically the least powerful one, and so whilst the turbo speed for the processor is a decent amount over the minimum requirements, that presupposes that the speed won't be throttled by heat, which laptops (especially thin ones like the MacBook Air) will suffer from. For the same price as the one from Walmart, you could likely get a much better Windows laptop that would also do Photoshop rendering, etc, faster than the MacBooks would do too.

One such example would be this: https://www.walmart.com/ip/3750H-G-10-GA502GU-PB73-1660-FHD-PCIeNVMe-Windows-IPS-ASUS-8GB-DDR4-AMD-Ryzen-Zephyrus-ROG-Ultra-SSD-GeForceGTX-512GB-Laptop-Type-Ti-7-Slim-15-6-Gami/702070017

It would be better for what you want it for (Photoshop and playing FM pretty much effortlessly) in damn near every way over the Macs you linked.

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10 hours ago, tolgacansezer said:

Hi,

I'm looking for a MacBook and I have two options due to my budget. My quesiton is that which one can run FM 2020 effortlessly? I also want to watch movies and take basic action on Photoshop on my new MacBook.

Option 1: https://www.walmart.com/ip/New-Apple-MacBook-Air-13-inch-1-8GHz-dual-core-Intel-Core-i5-8GB-RAM-128GB-SSD-Silver-2017-Model/788533857

Option 2: https://www.apple.com/us-hed/shop/buy-mac/macbook-air (left one)

 

8 hours ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

If you had to buy a MacBook, I'd go for the first one, but neither is going to run the game "effortlessly", as the processor in the first one isn't particularly good and is 5 generations behind the newest processors, and whilst the processor in the one in the 2nd link is from the newest generation of processors, it's basically the least powerful one, and so whilst the turbo speed for the processor is a decent amount over the minimum requirements, that presupposes that the speed won't be throttled by heat, which laptops (especially thin ones like the MacBook Air) will suffer from. For the same price as the one from Walmart, you could likely get a much better Windows laptop that would also do Photoshop rendering, etc, faster than the MacBooks would do too.

One such example would be this: https://www.walmart.com/ip/3750H-G-10-GA502GU-PB73-1660-FHD-PCIeNVMe-Windows-IPS-ASUS-8GB-DDR4-AMD-Ryzen-Zephyrus-ROG-Ultra-SSD-GeForceGTX-512GB-Laptop-Type-Ti-7-Slim-15-6-Gami/702070017

It would be better for what you want it for (Photoshop and playing FM pretty much effortlessly) in damn near every way over the Macs you linked.

I echo @JordanMillward_1 here - I am a graphic designer - so a Mac Book isn't powerful enough for photoshop, sorry. But you would need at least 16gb RAM and a decent processor and a good graphics card - plus you need more storage for the Scratch Disks.

Macs don't come with graphics cards any more - and without a graphics card - there's plenty of Photoshop features that don't work without a dedicated graphics card.

https://helpx.adobe.com/ie/photoshop/kb/photoshop-cc-gpu-card-faq.html

 

I'd save the trouble of a Mac and go for a really really good laptop for that price and money.

Something like this would be better for Photoshop https://www.walmart.com/ip/MSI-GL63-9SDK-611-15-6-Gaming-Laptop-Intel-Core-i7-9750H-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1660Ti-16GB-512GB-NVMe-SSD-Windows-10/395390779

 

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Hi all, 

I’ve never played FM before but looking to get into it to fill the football shaped hole in my life. 

I’ve been needing an upgrade to the laptop for years so now is perfect timing to do that. I’ve done some reading on here and then some research online and have found the following https://www.box.co.uk/ASUS-M509DA-BQ321T_2886177.html#promotions

My questions are is this a decent enough laptop to give a good experience? Is there something else out there at a similar price if not?

Any help appreciated 😁😁

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30 minutes ago, ASKB09 said:

Hi all, 

I’ve never played FM before but looking to get into it to fill the football shaped hole in my life. 

I’ve been needing an upgrade to the laptop for years so now is perfect timing to do that. I’ve done some reading on here and then some research online and have found the following https://www.box.co.uk/ASUS-M509DA-BQ321T_2886177.html#promotions

My questions are is this a decent enough laptop to give a good experience? Is there something else out there at a similar price if not?

Any help appreciated 😁😁

IT's not bad - no dedicated graphics card - which isn't a bad thing, and AMD built in graphics card is good enough to play 3D detail at low-medium settings.

What's your actual budget. This would be good for example - Better processor (key for FM) and a low-mid range graphics card dedicated which is nice.

https://www.box.co.uk/81LK0039UK-Lenovo-L340-15-Gaming_2934443.html

 

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1 hour ago, ASKB09 said:

Thanks for the quick reply Smurf! 

My budget is really round the £600 mark I could push a little more by £50 maybe so that one is a little out of reach. 😔

 

Then nothing wrong with your original one. It will be fine.

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19 minutes ago, Malicious Penguin said:

Doesn't that say Windows 10 S?

So you couldn't install FM20/Steam on that unless you upgraded the OS.

You can turn off S mode, however you can't go back.

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35 minutes ago, Malicious Penguin said:

Doesn't that say Windows 10 S?

So you couldn't install FM20/Steam on that unless you upgraded the OS.

 

16 minutes ago, Scotty Walds said:

You can turn off S mode, however you can't go back.

That's right. So it doesn't phase me when I see it.

How to Turn Off Windows 10 S Mode
  1. Go to Settings.
  2. Then select Update & Security.
  3. In the left sidebar, click Activation.
  4. Then click “Go to the Store.” ...
  5. Press the “Get” button under the “Switch out of S Mode” section and wait for the process to complete.

It's a one way street, no going back once you change.

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Hi Everyone,

I have been savng for a while for a new laptop and have a budget of between £2000 and £2500.

I have been looking at this from Dell

DELL XPS 15 7590 4K 15.6" Intel® Core™ i9 Laptop - 1 TB SSD, Silver

 

echnical specifications for DELL XPS 15 7590 4K 15.6" Intel® Core™ i9 Laptop - 1 TB SSD, Silver

OVERVIEW
Type Laptop
Operating system Windows 10 (64-bit)
PERFORMANCE
Processor - Intel® Core™ i9-9980HK Unlocked Processor
- Octa-core
- 2.4 GHz / 5.0 GHz
- 16 MB cache
RAM 16 GB DDR4 (2666 MHz) x 2
Graphics card - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
- 4 GB GDDR5
Storage 1 TB SSD
SCREEN
Touchscreen No
Screen size 15.6"
Screen type IPS OLED
Resolution 4K Ultra HD 3840 x 2160p
CONNECTIVITY
WiFi - Killer Wireless 1650 AX WiFi
- 2x2
Ethernet Ethernet port
Bluetooth Bluetooth 5.0
USB USB 3.1 x 2
Video connections HDMI 2.0 x 1
Audio connections 3.5 mm jack
Other connections Miracast
SOUND
Audio software Waves MaxxAudio Pro
Speakers Stereo speakers
MEDIA
Memory card reader SD
FEATURES
Camera - HD RGB Camera
- Compatible with Windows Hello
Mouse / trackpad Multi-touch trackpad with gesture control
Keyboard Backlit membrane keyboard
POWER
Battery type 6-cell Lithium-ion
Battery life Up to 5 hours

 

Would this run allleagues on FM2020 with maximum database or would i be better off using someone like PCSPECIALIST and having something custom made.

Thanks

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1 hour ago, craigm8 said:

Hi Everyone,

I have been savng for a while for a new laptop and have a budget of between £2000 and £2500.

I have been looking at this from Dell

 

 

PERFORMANCE
Processor - Intel® Core™ i9-9980HK Unlocked Processor
- Octa-core
- 2.4 GHz / 5.0 GHz
- 16 MB cache
RAM 16 GB DDR4 (2666 MHz) x 2
Graphics card - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
- 4 GB GDDR5
   

Would this run allleagues on FM2020 with maximum database or would i be better off using someone like PCSPECIALIST and having something custom made.

Thanks

As per opening post, it's ambigious to guess how many leagues etc.

But all most computers can rull all leagues with maximum database - just depends how fast it runs and if you're happy with the speed. 

It's a great processor - but certainly not "the best" you can get.

 

 

Building one is much better option than buying one off the shelf - with the budget you have.

 

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Hi,

Thanks for your reply.

Looking for something which has a fast processor and fairly future proof regarding ram and hard drive. Any recommendations of where to look or laptops within that price range?

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1 hour ago, craigm8 said:

Hi,

Thanks for your reply.

Looking for something which has a fast processor and fairly future proof regarding ram and hard drive. Any recommendations of where to look or laptops within that price range?

How about this? https://www.google.com/search?biw=1280&bih=578&tbm=shop&q=asus g14 4900HS&tbs=vw%3Al%2Cmr%3A1%2Ccat%3A328%2Cpdtr0%3A703997|703999%2Cprice%3A1%2Cppr_min%3A1750&ei=CUrNXpKHDP2ChbIPvIm0iAU&ved=0ahUKEwjSr8u3_9HpAhV9QUEAHbwEDVEQuisItAEoAw#spd=6281729799473413798

CPU comparison: https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-amd_ryzen_9_4900hs-1285-vs-intel_core_i9_9980hk-957

 

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Hi

Looking to get a new laptop specifically for FM.  Usually play UK based dafuge challenges with a large database. I would like the game to run at a decent speed and to be able to watch in 3D.

My budget is £700. I have seen this laptop:

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-nitro-5-17-3-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-gtx-1650-256-gb-ssd-10205985-pdt.html

Would this do the trick or are there any other recommendations for this budget?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

Thanks

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44 minutes ago, Pablo Counago said:

Hi

Looking to get a new laptop specifically for FM.  Usually play UK based dafuge challenges with a large database. I would like the game to run at a decent speed and to be able to watch in 3D.

My budget is £700. I have seen this laptop:

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-nitro-5-17-3-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-gtx-1650-256-gb-ssd-10205985-pdt.html

Would this do the trick or are there any other recommendations for this budget?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

Thanks

Hard drive a bit on the small size - but would be ok for a while. Easily upgradable anyway.

Should be good.

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Thanks for the response smurf. 

I'm not particularly computer savvy so how will having a smaller hard drive impact the game? Would I be looking to upgrade the hard drive in months or years? Sorry for the questions just want to make sure I spend my budget wisely

Thanks

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27 minutes ago, Pablo Counago said:

Thanks for the response smurf. 

I'm not particularly computer savvy so how will having a smaller hard drive impact the game? Would I be looking to upgrade the hard drive in months or years? Sorry for the questions just want to make sure I spend my budget wisely

Thanks

Hard drive is storage. How many coats do you have, do you need a bigger wardrobe? 

It won't impact on the game speed at all, size is nothing to do with speed.

But, Windows 10 takes up 20gb of space - so you're down to 236gb
- a few more apps added into the mix that come preinstalled, maybe another 20gb.

Steam takes (I think) 20gb.
FM takes 7gb - and saved game files are needed to be saved too - which vary in sizes. 

At the moment with a basic install and Windows, Steam and FM - you're using about 70gb of space.

Your storage now is about 186gb.

Which is a lot in fairness. 

If you include downloads (netflix for example) or things like that it could fill up very fast. 

If you have images - video content backed up from your phone etc. 

 

How long would it take to build up - well how how much space do you need - and do you plan on needing more space, for example, if you were to buy new coats, would you throw out the old ones or try to cram everything into the one wardrobe.

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That makes a lot of sense! I really enjoyed the wardrobe analogy! Thanks Smurf

I think I'll go with it. 256gb should be plenty to get me started and as you've said I can always upgrade it in the future.

Really appreciate your help! 

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Hi all,

Apologies if the not the best thread but i'm mulling over buying a new 16" Macbook Pro, they finally have a pretty decent looking spec, I use Macbooks for work hence needing to stick to a Macbook, I have a 2015 Macbook Pro and playing FM, it doesn't last long as sounds like it's going to take of (fans go mental) and gets hotter than the sun! Not a good experience, is anyone here playing FM currently on a 16" Macbook? ?

Is it pretty smooth? Stay quiet most of the time? Stays cool? Does the game run fast? How are the graphic capabilities? 

I'm not a heavy user, so mostly only a single country and 4/5 leagues running at once

Hope you can help me with your experiences?

Thanks :)

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31 minutes ago, zakbrown96 said:

HI can someone please recommend me a I7 2019 H processor laptop with budget £850 to £900, as don't understand specs what so ever kind regards 

Are there any other features that you need? Do you want to store a lot of media? Plug in an SD card? Use a webcam? Play some more demanding games? Or is FM the only consideration? Gaming laptops (especially the cheaper ones) often compromise in some or all of these areas.

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16 minutes ago, Gangor said:

Are there any other features that you need? Do you want to store a lot of media? Plug in an SD card? Use a webcam? Play some more demanding games? Or is FM the only consideration? Gaming laptops (especially the cheaper ones) often compromise in some or all of these areas.

only really play Football manager in all honesty 

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5 minutes ago, zakbrown96 said:

only really play Football manager in all honesty 

This would seem to be a decent baseline. Something to be aware of is that at this pricepoint you're generally looking at only 8GB of RAM. This particular model is apparently difficult to service too, so you might be stuck with that amount. Having said that, it might be a compromise worth making given 16GB versions tend to cost significantly more.

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/medion-erazer-p15603-core-i7-9750h-8gb-1tb-hdd-256gb-ssd-15.6-inch-geforc-30027149/version.asp?refsource=ldadwords&mkwid=spzbvihHV_dc&pcrid=409820001599&product=30027149&pgrid=96503560308&ptaid=pla-439113903541&channel=googlesearch&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2NLUluPU6QIVNoBQBh3QdgBtEAkYCyABEgKocfD_BwE

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9 minutes ago, Gangor said:

This would seem to be a decent baseline. Something to be aware of is that at this pricepoint you're generally looking at only 8GB of RAM. This particular model is apparently difficult to service too, so you might be stuck with that amount. Having said that, it might be a compromise worth making given 16GB versions tend to cost significantly more.

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/medion-erazer-p15603-core-i7-9750h-8gb-1tb-hdd-256gb-ssd-15.6-inch-geforc-30027149/version.asp?refsource=ldadwords&mkwid=spzbvihHV_dc&pcrid=409820001599&product=30027149&pgrid=96503560308&ptaid=pla-439113903541&channel=googlesearch&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2NLUluPU6QIVNoBQBh3QdgBtEAkYCyABEgKocfD_BwE

That great thank you! Much appreciated 

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Hi everyone

I've read this whole thread over the last few days to try and get a better understanding before I actually posted for advice - thank you all!

My current laptop is over 10 years old and I'm still playing FM12 as that's the last version that still runs ok on it. I'm looking for a laptop with a budget of £500. Don't really want to go over that but I might be able to siphon a bit more away from the monthly housekeeping I send my missus if I really need to.

I do enjoy watching the highlights in 3D but I know that laptops around my budget might struggle to do this, even in low detail - so it would be good if I could play the matches in 3D in medium but not a deal-breaker. The main thing I'm worried about is the noise. As someone has previously said, they don't want their laptop to sound like a plane taking off, so does that mean I need to look at the type of processor first and foremost? Would that rule out processors that have a U at the end?

Not that bothered about looks/weight/portability, 99% of the time I'll be playing on the sofa, connected to power and plastic casings are fine as I always make sure I look after things! I'd only be using the laptop for FM, playing poker online and general internet browsing.

These are the ones I've shortlisted from your previous posts - which one might be best based on my requirements?

1 - https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/asus-ryzen-5-3500u-8gb-1tb-hdd-256gb-ssd-15.6-inch-windows-10-fhd-laptop-x512da-ej1021t/version.asp

2 - https://www.box.co.uk/ASUS-X509JA-EJ028T_2862884.html

3 - https://www.box.co.uk/M509DA-BQ303T-ASUS-M509DA-BQ303T_2886176.html

4 - https://www.box.co.uk/ASUS-M509DA-BQ321T_2886177.html#promotions

5 - https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3104570/ 

4 has the higher ranked processor and a better graphics card, so is it worth the extra £100? Number 5 is similar and I know I can turn off Windows S, but I might also be able to get it for £460ish which seems like a good deal to me - am I being too risk-averse and should just buy it straight away?! 

Grateful for any advice on the above laptops or any others that might be good for me.

Thanks

David

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9 hours ago, peekaboo said:

Ah great any thoughts @EdL?

Thanks

 

I'm probably not that best placed to answer as it is a work machine and I'm not playing FM on it in the traditional sense, I'm using it alongside Apples development tools which places additional strain on the machine.

I can say from my experience it is a very fast machine, but it also gets very hot and the battery life is poor - fingers crsssed Apple sort it out with updates but tbh I find the quality of MacOS has decreased with every version for the last few years so I don't feel hopeful.

It is also _really_ expensive and if it was my own money I wouldn't buy it, I'd favour a Windows laptop where you could get something of similar spec for far cheaper.

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10 hours ago, daveyg33 said:

Number 5 is similar and I know I can turn off Windows S, but I might also be able to get it for £460ish which seems like a good deal to me - am I being too risk-averse and should just buy it straight away?! 

If you can get it for £460 that would be great value. Even at £550 it's pretty good. In any case I'd definitely recommend an AMD 3000 series processor in that price range as they tend to have much better integrated graphics than Intel counterparts so you may be able to play the 3D match engine on lower quality settings.

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An update again. I'm finished with the Boreham Wood save now in 2031 after 3 consecutive PL titles and 2 UCL titles in 3 years.  Boreham Wood was the biggest team in Europe and the youth rating must have been very high as well. Never got the U23 team playing competitive matches. 

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Sorry if I’m in the wrong place. I recently purchased an Alienware m17 r3. I was wondering if I play every match in 3D and load about 20 leagues with a large database of the laptop will run this with ease? Laptop specs are listed below. Thanks in advance for any information and I apologize again if this is in the wrong place.

 

Alienware m17 r3. 

16GB DDR4 2666MHz

NVIDIA® GeForce GTX® 1660 Ti 6GB GDDR6

256GB PCIe M.2 SSD
 
Windows 10 Home, 64-bit, English
 
10th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-10750H (6-Core, 12MB Cache, up to 5.1GHz w/ Turbo Boost 2.0)
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3 hours ago, thepensioners83 said:

Sorry if I’m in the wrong place. I recently purchased an Alienware m17 r3. I was wondering if I play every match in 3D and load about 20 leagues with a large database of the laptop will run this with ease? Laptop specs are listed below. Thanks in advance for any information and I apologize again if this is in the wrong place.

 

Alienware m17 r3. 

16GB DDR4 2666MHz

NVIDIA® GeForce GTX® 1660 Ti 6GB GDDR6

256GB PCIe M.2 SSD
 
Windows 10 Home, 64-bit, English
 
10th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-10750H (6-Core, 12MB Cache, up to 5.1GHz w/ Turbo Boost 2.0)

God yeah, like a hot knife through butter

Thats a £1000 + laptop

You could run nearly all leagues acceptably in my opinion

It's also worth noting that all saves get slower the more years that pass in game a good way to test it is to load your preferred setup (20 leagues with a large database) and leave the game on holiday over night and start playing a good few years into the game to see if it's fast enough for your taste

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4 hours ago, Brother Ben said:

God yeah, like a hot knife through butter

Thats a £1000 + laptop

You could run nearly all leagues acceptably in my opinion

It's also worth noting that all saves get slower the more years that pass in game a good way to test it is to load your preferred setup (20 leagues with a large database) and leave the game on holiday over night and start playing a good few years into the game to see if it's fast enough for your taste

Cheers. Do you think there will be any problem with overheating with this machine? It does have the new cryo-tech cooling with 39% more copper in the thermal module. Also has the vapor chamber cooling technology which helps to evaporate heat from the CPU and the GPU. This new model also has 25% more fan blades so I’m thinking I should be fine. Also only weighs about 6.1 lbs. 

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On 28/05/2020 at 08:21, Gangor said:

If you can get it for £460 that would be great value. Even at £550 it's pretty good. In any case I'd definitely recommend an AMD 3000 series processor in that price range as they tend to have much better integrated graphics than Intel counterparts so you may be able to play the 3D match engine on lower quality settings.

Thanks Gangor. Managed to get it for £475 in the end and I pick it up tomorrow. I wonder how much difference I’ll notice between FM12 and FM20..... 🙃

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7 hours ago, thepensioners83 said:

Cheers. Do you think there will be any problem with overheating with this machine? It does have the new cryo-tech cooling with 39% more copper in the thermal module. Also has the vapor chamber cooling technology which helps to evaporate heat from the CPU and the GPU. This new model also has 25% more fan blades so I’m thinking I should be fine. Also only weighs about 6.1 lbs. 

It's a beast of a machine mate, you will have no problems at all.  Make sure you put it on High Performance under power plans.

If the computer does over heat then it will throttle down to base speeds which is not ideal but I do not see this happening on your machine at all

If you want to keep an eye on thermals a great program that I use is HWMonitor

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This is how it looks.

The bit you want to keep an eye on is the value column for clocks and Temperature Package whilst you are playing a match.  In a match I would imagine that processor will go up to its full 5GHz but the value will throttle down under load if the cooling solution is weak which would probably coincide with the Temperature package hitting the high 90's

This may help someone but like I say in your case I can't see it being an issue

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