gredawarha1979 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Cannot defend for ****. Four nil up and lost 4-6. I know it is Chelsea and i shouldn't be annoyed. Must go to bed but need to sort out this defence. As usual FM is giving me rage! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyBroadband Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 holy s*#t, changed it from fluid to flexible and wow the results are rolling in, well worth changing to flexible Yeah man, it's worth it ain't it! I really think team talks make a big difference too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbilly Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 holy s*#t, changed it from fluid to flexible and wow the results are rolling in, well worth changing to flexible Same for me. Went from struggling in mid table to promotion contenders over night. Currently 18 game unbeaten run ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbowan Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Just wanted to pop in and say THANK YOU I do like to build my own tactics and had up and down success with a 4-1-2-3 which I persisted with for 2 seasons. I then decided to give this tactic a go and although it didnt 100% fit my personnel it was magic. Beat Real Madrid to win the CL final 4-1 and have had a great run of results over 1/2 a season so far with it (beat Barca 5-2, ManU 4-0, Tottenham 6-0 etc) The attacking movement is the beauty of this tactic and it has shown me that players like the WMa can be attacking and at the same time seem defensively responsible, also its nice to see the CMd and CMs also contribute to both facets of play even though they sit quite deep. It is a joy to behold the players all linking up on attacks as the defense turns to attack after the BWM get you the ball back. They key to getting this tactic humming for me is a quality CDc (Balanta is a stud here) and quality BWM (I even use Ozil as the BWMs with good success, in fact i would recommend an attacking CM here) good wide playmakers dont hurt either. ANyway, as I said wanted to pop in and say thanks and recommend this tatic to all to try, even if you dont use it long term it gives you a nice insight into what you can do with roles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr U Rosler Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 Thanks for the feedback guys. I've not actually played FM for 6 weeks, waiting for the final patch before starting my long term save with Weston Super Mare in Conference South. Update should come soon, i will be updating this tactic and probably adding a couple of others post the update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsdaft1982 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 This is by far the best tactic I have used so far. I am currently Ebbsfleet United in the conference south and I am top clear by 21 points. Excellent football is being played by the team. I really do hope you update this post update. Thanks again mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo1983 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 are people tending to use control at home and counter for away as the formation stratergy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUnderdog Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Playing with the 'flexible' tweak and my Leicester team in the first season finished in 4th. Now, this time last year with your Silk and Steel tactic, I also had similar success but as soon as the final patch arrived, it killed it for me. I'm hoping this doesn't happen this time too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBP87 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 are people tending to use control at home and counter for away as the formation stratergy No just changed to flexible and leave it as it is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBP87 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 does anyone know where i can look up player preferred moves, i want to create a beast of a CF but i want to find out PPM's i should learn him if poss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
widowmaker- Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Depay just won World player of the year with this formation adult photo sharing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr U Rosler Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 Yeah, the wide midfielders get immense ratings, even in conference south! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny_123 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 does anyone know how to tighten the defense when playing away, i have to play the team in structured i think its called(used to be rigid) but i either scrape a draw or get destroyed by 3-5 goals not won away in 15 games even with a fully fit first time out. my keeper and defenders are young and i signed 4 new center backs so but they seem to perform well at home or in a draw just i get destroyed in some games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gredawarha1979 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Get defenders and keepers who match the tactic and try and get fast defenders. You might find (as I have) that moving to structured, turn off offside and turn on drop deeper. I have found my team a little more balanced by doing this. I start out like this and then revert to the base tactic if I go behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerrdavidson95 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Into my third season with Airdrieonians after two successive promotions and a Scottish League Cup victory. We are now sitting a comfortable third in the table. Both of my strikers score barrel loads and my wide midfielders are doing very well. I agree with the point of having a more attacking minded centre midfielder in the team to be more creative through the middle, I even changed to DLP(s) and it hasn't been doing too badly. The only thing is, when we lose we seem to capitulate, losing by three or four goals most times. Goals wise, Calvin Miller (Celtic) will turn into a very good player to fit into the AF role in this tactic. He has acceleration, pace, composure, but his finishing attribute can be very low (7), none the less, he scored 27 in 36 in his first season on loan with me, and is on 15 in 21 in his second season on loan a division higher. He also gathers a lot of assists from the AF role. Unfortunately the scope of what I can do with my team in Scotland is limited - such is the micro-economy which operates under a Celtic team featuring Martin Odegaard and Jordan Ayew. Still, my low wage Airdrie team are holding their own - at times though its just impossible to compete. I do intend to make it to the Champions League with this team though, I did it in FM12 with Dundee Utd and their conveyor belt of talent & FM14 with Inverness' good team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr U Rosler Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 Into my third season with Airdrieonians after two successive promotions and a Scottish League Cup victory. We are now sitting a comfortable third in the table. Both of my strikers score barrel loads and my wide midfielders are doing very well. I agree with the point of having a more attacking minded centre midfielder in the team to be more creative through the middle, I even changed to DLP(s) and it hasn't been doing too badly. The only thing is, when we lose we seem to capitulate, losing by three or four goals most times. Goals wise, Calvin Miller (Celtic) will turn into a very good player to fit into the AF role in this tactic. He has acceleration, pace, composure, but his finishing attribute can be very low (7), none the less, he scored 27 in 36 in his first season on loan with me, and is on 15 in 21 in his second season on loan a division higher. He also gathers a lot of assists from the AF role. Unfortunately the scope of what I can do with my team in Scotland is limited - such is the micro-economy which operates under a Celtic team featuring Martin Odegaard and Jordan Ayew. Still, my low wage Airdrie team are holding their own - at times though its just impossible to compete. I do intend to make it to the Champions League with this team though, I did it in FM12 with Dundee Utd and their conveyor belt of talent & FM14 with Inverness' good team. Yeah, i've started a save with Weston Super Mare, probably the toughest job in the English leagues (without mods), predicted to finish bottom of the league (conference south) in first 2 seasons finished 8th & 8th which is pretty good. 3rd season i'm top of league with 15 games to go predicted 3rd from bottom. Thing is, i get frustrated, when i lose, i lose heavy but then i remind myself most of my players are rated decent for the Ryman league! and i have no right to be competing for promotion. With your rapid promotions your team is likely outclassed in most positions week in week out, but its hard to keep a lid on expectations! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
widowmaker- Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Im having real issues with the left midfielder (BWM-D) Ive tried Sergi Samper, joao moutinho, Dembele, Ander Iturraaspe and Micheal Bradley but not one of them plays over a 7 rating. Have you guys out there got a hidden gem or advise on how to make it work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedromanuelpinto Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 It's possible to put a printscreen of the Team Instructions? Any individual Instruction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr U Rosler Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 Im having real issues with the left midfielder (BWM-D) Ive tried Sergi Samper, joao moutinho, Dembele, Ander Iturraaspe and Micheal Bradley but not one of them plays over a 7 rating. Have you guys out there got a hidden gem or advise on how to make it work You could play 'god' in that position and he would get poor ratings. Quite simply, the good work he does breaking up attacks does not contribute to a high rating, he very rarely assists or scores as thats not his job. Doesnt mean he not contributing, just SI lazily rewarding goal scoring and assists over anything else and not recognizing good defensive work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
widowmaker- Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 You could play 'god' in that position and he would get poor ratings.Quite simply, the good work he does breaking up attacks does not contribute to a high rating, he very rarely assists or scores as thats not his job. Doesnt mean he not contributing, just SI lazily rewarding goal scoring and assists over anything else and not recognizing good defensive work. Cheers, thought it seamed like a waste of a guy. Great tactic btw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr U Rosler Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 Cheers, thought it seamed like a waste of a guy. Great tactic btw Definitely not a waste of a guy, watch him on extended high lights and you'll see what he gets up to. He allows others to play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny_123 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 yea i thought i was doing something wrong with the center mids, i have really good players just get horrid ratings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octopus Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 MR U - great tactic as usual! Has anyone had any luck playing against 4-1-2-1-2 formations? They are very narrow packing the midfield. I tried switching to exploit the flanks but this didn't seem to have any impact. I went from being unbeaten against all the big sides to getting beaten 6-0 by Man Utd. They are a better side but my players looked totally useless against them. Any help appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duskhorizon Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 How you can post tactic and as prove that it works using teams like Man City or Man Utd? Seriously this is just plain stupid... Use lower leagues teams or teams who are suppose to be relegated and do fine with them... Oh great you won a league with team who have best squad... that proves ... well nothing TBH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr U Rosler Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 How you can post tactic and as prove that it works using teams like Man City or Man Utd? Seriously this is just plain stupid... Use lower leagues teams or teams who are suppose to be relegated and do fine with them...Oh great you won a league with team who have best squad... that proves ... well nothing TBH The SECOND picture on the VERY FIRST post shows WEST BROM finishing 4th. And YOU are calling ME stupid :lol::lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr U Rosler Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 How you can post tactic and as prove that it works using teams like Man City or Man Utd? Seriously this is just plain stupid... Use lower leagues teams or teams who are suppose to be relegated and do fine with them...Oh great you won a league with team who have best squad... that proves ... well nothing TBH Oh, and here's my main save showing my media predicted 2nd from bottom WSM side WINNING Conference South. http://i.imgur.com/v0TLbJ8.jpg http://i.imgur.com/D9dIggP.jpg Anything else i can do for you?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duskhorizon Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 No thank you Forgive me my manners I'm little upset today. Btw : I didn't called you stupid , just providing Man City save/screen as proof that tactic is good - bad for me i reacted too quickly. Sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr U Rosler Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 No thank you Forget my manners I'm little upset today.Btw : I didn't called you stupid , just providing Man City save/screen as proof that tactic is good - bad for me i reacted too quickly. Sorry. Apology accepted, thanks for being man enough to do that. I put a lot of work into my tactics and the forum to have its dismissed like that. Testing with a Strong team is still valid, i had a lot of good Tactics with Man City but didn't post until I had hit some very demanding targets,100+ Points, 110 + goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duskhorizon Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Apology accepted, thanks for being man enough to do that.I put a lot of work into my tactics and the forum to have its dismissed like that. Testing with a Strong team is still valid, i had a lot of good Tactics with Man City but didn't post until I had hit some very demanding targets,100+ Points, 110 + goals. Will give it a try with my Tellford AFC - i like classic 4-4-2 formation for a change Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr U Rosler Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 Whilst i'm on the subject of my main save. I'm detailing my progress here http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/420383-Weston-Super-(Night)-Mare-Trouble-on-the-Weston-Front if anyone want to follow it. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr U Rosler Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 Will give it a try with my Tellford AFC - i like classic 4-4-2 formation for a change As per the advice on here, for lower leagues i'd change it from Very Fluid to Flexible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedelldaya Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 is there any tweaks/alterations required to use this in a 2nd season every time I use a successful tactic in season 2, it tends to be far less effective Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tremor Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I just cant seem to get this one to work for me anymore... had amazing success gettting wimbledon to the prem with it, went great guns until christmas in the first season and now... just can't buy a win... not scoring and leaking goals like mad even though i've bought a few key players for the squad i'm now in the second season and it's even worse... not sure what i can do to shore things up... i've even found that going back to the old 4132 seems to be better... any suggestions on tightening things up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr U Rosler Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 I just cant seem to get this one to work for me anymore... had amazing success gettting wimbledon to the prem with it, went great guns until christmas in the first season and now... just can't buy a win... not scoring and leaking goals like mad even though i've bought a few key players for the squad i'm now in the second season and it's even worse... not sure what i can do to shore things up... i've even found that going back to the old 4132 seems to be better... any suggestions on tightening things up? Did you change to flexible from very fluid? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tremor Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Yeah i tried that after christmas in the first season... originally i just ended up getting a lot of draws, but then it seems to have stepped back again and i'm getting thumped a lot... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardoso12345 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Mr rosler, congrats on developing an amazing tactic. I've been using this tactic with multiple teams over the course of my save. Chelsea, Marseille, Spain, Germany and now a championship Liverpool. For me this tactic is a diablo tactic, if anythingit's just too good! I basically win every game and it's always by a big number of goagoslsgoalsals. over 40 shots per game. If anything I'm bored playing with this tactic because it's that good! Bravo! The only changes I made are mcr to box to box and mcl to roaming playmaker. You literally can't lose and score bucket loads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbowan Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I played 1/2 a season with this as mentioned above and wont he CL final, I have now played a full season and the table below speaks for itself. Won the PL, FA cup and CL final again. 32-3-3 with 137 goals for and only 32 against. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleynasdad Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 New update today. How's the tactic holding up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duskhorizon Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 New update today. How's the tactic holding up? Can't really tell ATM since I'm loosing almost everything today but I'm AFC Telford in Sky Bet 2 in my 2nd season - my squad is really bad for that league.... This tactic won promotion for me when media predictions was 24th... that was before patch tho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedromanuelpinto Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 What if you change 1 Striker to AMC... what should do? AMC (Support) and AF (Attack)? Or another combo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul7875 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 havent won a game got sacked fae my hudderfield carrer after update to 15.3 late last night Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr U Rosler Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 havent won a game got sacked fae my hudderfield carrer after update to 15.3 late last night Not had a look at it yet, will re-run the City test starting tonight, should be obvious to me fairly quickly if the tactic is redundant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleynasdad Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Not had a look at it yet, will re-run the City test starting tonight, should be obvious to me fairly quickly if the tactic is redundant. I'm still managing to stop the update downloading. I was three games away from taking my crappy Gainsborough team to the North title and now trying to build for new season in the conference. Im going to hold off on that update as long as I can... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackrosiemaisie Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 If my limited test is anything to go by I'd say that this tactic could even be better under 15.3. Managing Chelsea (I did say that it is limited proof) I've played the first three EPL fixtures of the 2014-15 season with the following results: Crystal Palace (H) 6-0 Man Utd (A) 5-1 Aston Villa (H) 6-0 Goals for 17; goals against 1 - pretty impressive even for Chelsea especially when the team are still less than 50% familiar with the tactic. One difference I've noticed so far is that crosses are more likely to be blocked by defenders. Mind you, Chelsea do have a near perfect team for this tactic from the start: STL - Remy (bought Fierro as backup and future) STR - Costa (4 goals, 3 assists, 8.80 avg rating) ML - Hazard / Schurrle MCL - Matic (bought Lucas Romero as backup and future) MCR - Fabregas (3 goals, 2 assists, 22 key passes, 8.74 avg rating) / Ramires MR - Oscar / Willian DL- Luis (Ricardo Rodriguez bought to complement Luis) DCL- Cahill (Zouma future replacement) DCR - Terry (bought Balanta as future replacement) DR - Azpilicueta / Ivanovic GK - Courtois / Cech Still a cracking tactic I think. Well done Mr R. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogmore Frog Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 I switched to this tactic on my Portsmouth save at beginning of 2nd season, I got promoted from League 2 season before! I am currently a quarter of the way through December, 2nd in league having been set a target of lower to mid table, in the quarter finals of Capital One Cup having beaten Southampton and Middlesborough of the Premier League along the way, have Derby County at home next, fairly confident! In the final of Johnstone Paint Trophy and in the 3rd round of FA Cup. I have a fairly young squad, signed Zack Clough on a season long loan from Bolton, has been sensational up front, 27 goals already, 6 of which came in one game against Telford in FA Cup 2nd round in a 7-0 victory, also set a new club record for most goals in one came! Other stand out players for me are Jed Wallace, Danny Hollands and Jack Whatmough. Tactic had been perfect for me since the 15.3 update! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleynasdad Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 No news from Uwe? Does that mean good news... still staying offline until HE speaks so the update doesn't work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr U Rosler Posted March 1, 2015 Author Share Posted March 1, 2015 No news from Uwe? Does that mean good news... still staying offline until HE speaks so the update doesn't work. Found it to be a bit leaky under 15.3. Its OK, but the 'edge' has gone in my opinion. I'm looking at something new. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duskhorizon Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Still manage to be in top half table with last place pre-season expectations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr U Rosler Posted March 3, 2015 Author Share Posted March 3, 2015 **** ADDING 'RETAIN POSSESSION' SEEMS TO HAVE GOT THE TACTIC PERFORMING AT PRE-UPDATE LEVELS **** I suggest you add it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy121 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 thanks for advice mr u rosler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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