balldoktor81 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 in the end who cares it's just a game, but when the game calls itself a football simulator and you have to experience a barca team not able to even reach 60% ( in my case we should have had at least 70%, and yes still could have lost, i get it and im fine with that) but again 52:48.... jeezz psg were on PHG or had Duracel batteries implemented. the visuals of 3D are not quite there yet and can be misleading, but in the end the statistics still tell me 52:48... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted March 28, 2013 Author Administrators Share Posted March 28, 2013 Sounds like your tactics to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
balldoktor81 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Guys i'm over it, as i told you im fine with the score and it's only a game, but Neil really??? man let that sink in for a second: one more player on the pitch for over 75 minutes, we play possesion football for 2 years now, my average is around 65%, i used "retain possesion" and "play through defense shout" for almost the whole game, patient and controlled game and guys you really wanna tell me it's my tactics... i'm lost for words! anyway good luck on improving the game, i'm sure with your experience and our feedback fm 14 will reach a higher level or at least be better on final release compared to fm 13. I'm out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 No, you should not raise it in the bugs forum. Unless you want to be laughed at. Seconded in all honesty. That fact that you personally couldnt get there doesn't mean its a bug. Just because you picked "retain possession" and "plays through defence" doesn't automatically mean that your possession should shoot up, other factors at stake here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Sounds like your tactics to be honest. Hey that's an infraction on these boards Any mod up to the job? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harima83 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 After to have noticed that also this new update has generated new bugs, I ask this to Sigames. Is it possible that source code needs to be rewrited, after all these years? I don't remember a previous FM that after a mini/huge update was afflicted by so many new medium/big bugs like the last edition. Instead to work to a new (and not very good, for now) match engine, wouldn't it be better to make a new (or partial new) game code? It also happens that fixed bugs of an edition, reappear in the next release. Every year there are the same bugs (or almost) in the same leagues (e.g. Major League Soccer), the same issues (e.g. italian co-ownership is a probleam every year) and so on. It's an hassle for us but for you too. For every new FM, you have to fix bugs that were fixed in the previous versions, I don't think that is normal. This is annoying and a waste of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana Jones Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 We have now released an update to Football Manager 2013, 13.3.3, details in regards to this including the changelist can be found here - http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/348533-January-Transfer-Update-13.3-RELEASED!Thanks. neil, it is very confusing on the original post as it does not have any dates as you have just added the details to that. it is just saying 28/02/13 which is the wrong date. you could do with maybe making it clearer or starting a new post about each patch mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana Jones Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 no ME improvements? no more playing for me then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 sort out the un-tactial rubbish effects in away games. every away game is 20x harder due to players standing about with the ball, where they would normall pass or run, 2 or 3 players making mistakes assistant messages, this doesn't happen at Neutral or at Home. and please sort out these Inderect free kicks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityAndColour Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 There is no injury problem in-game - some users are pushing their players too hard with training or are just having bad luck. We've looked at this a great number of times and the frequency of injuries in-game is NOT a bug. Thanks. Does that include knocks which kill a player's condition/force them off but don't register as an injury, and green cross injuries that don't come up as an injury after the game? The above two are the main problem for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hluraven Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Does that include knocks which kill a player's condition/force them off but don't register as an injury, and green cross injuries that don't come up as an injury after the game?The above two are the main problem for me. Not enough of them either (although that's opinion as there is no empirical data possible). Just look in any physio room after any real game and you will find a lot of players getting treatment for knocks that they didn't come off for, and/or fans didn't even see at the time, which have affected their "condition". The amount players play through is staggering IRL, you're probably talking more than half the squad carrying something IRL at any one time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pafeu Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Is it me or match preparation in international management automatically reverts back to 'Tactics only'? And no, my AssMan doesn't handle match preparation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Fandel Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 sort out the un-tactial rubbish effects in away games.every away game is 20x harder due to players standing about with the ball, where they would normall pass or run, 2 or 3 players making mistakes assistant messages, this doesn't happen at Neutral or at Home. and please sort out these Inderect free kicks. That only you get? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 last time I checked teams have good spells and bad spells, not home team has 80-90% of the play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 anyone else miss loads of penalties? i think this season i have had about 5, cavani has missed 2 and podolski has missed one! seems a bit high but a small sample size, anyone else struggling? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 anyone else miss loads of penalties? i think this season i have had about 5, cavani has missed 2 and podolski has missed one!seems a bit high but a small sample size, anyone else struggling? Cant say that I am to be honest. Not sure how easy this to find out, but what's the conversion rate for all the teams in your league in term of of penalties? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 i got 3 pens in a match RVP missed 2 of them but Valencia scored his Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruyff14 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Somehow steam done an update and now all my graphics, tactics, saved games, editors data has all vanished? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiek tiote is a legend Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 my game just crashed out, it said a error but dont know what the code was?? first time this has happened me and its just after the latest update. anyone else having any error crashes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliottpowerbwfc Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I have some feedback to do with the match engine and im playing on January update, if this is in the wrong place please redirect me - The worst bits are in the opinion of myself and a friends who also play the game : * The amount of disallowed goals, for and against there is far to many it's ridiculous and unrealistic. * Amount of penalties conceded, I don't even concede as many penalties when I purposely slide tackle people 2 footed on FIFA/PES than on this match engine. The majority of them seem to be for no reason at all or very soft. * Every goal conceded is identical comes from a cross, pretty much this is what I see. Winger puts in a cross, it hits someone on the arse, the defence don't clear it, It gets scrambled in, I swear and usually hit something in rage. * Players rarely tackle - They will just stand off and don't even attempt to tackle the majority of the time despite what is in your tactical plan. It's rather frustrating. * The amount of long shots despite instructed not to take them, I have every player on ''long shots rarely'' yet they happen constantly and are very poor and no where near the net. * Players making mistakes then the player ratings blames it on the wrong player. This is just stupid really, for example I might be Bolton Wanderers, Matt Mills makes a horrific error which costs a goal (just like in real life) , so Zat Knight's rating will go down instead and he will get the blame after the match. * Set piece defending is pathetic, enough said. * Players being left completely unmarked, A ball will be played forward and a player is left completely unmarked with no player within about 30 yards of him. Sometimes it doesn't even seem to matter if they have good Marking or not with this match engine, it still happens. Seems to happen way to much on both Zonal & Man Marking. * The amount of injuries, there is far too many injuries its very unrealistic. It always seems to know which position you are short on and make sure the player which gets injured will be a player of that position. * The amount of ridiculous passes, the passing in general I would say is a little better but some of the passing can be awful, there is way to many suicidal passes with no accuracy straight to the other team despite having a fairly high passing attribute it seems to happen far to much. I have also noticed when instructed to ''play out of defence'' the players seem to just hoof it to the opponent far to much. * Slow player outpacing a fast one, please can someone explain to me how a 39 year old Kevin Phillips with 8 pace and acceleration out run fullback Tsepo Masilela with 16 and 17 pace and acceleration. (This happened to a friend not me so thought id include it) * The ball always goes out for a goal kick from the kickoff due to a very poor ball forward, this is very rare in real life. * Former players ALWAYS score against you. Sometimes it feels like there is no point putting certain things into the tactics such as don't take long shots, play out of defence and don't stand off because they always do the complete opposite. It's so predictable. The game itself is much better but the match engine ruins what could be the best version of the game yet. Other than the match engine I find the game great, much better than any other versions, if the match engine was improved I would give it a 10 out of 10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I find the Disallowed goals are usualy from "fouls" on the keeper, of which there seems to be many. the way players behave when they are the Away tam as well. lots of random slow shuffling with the ball despite a fair few yards of space and a couple of passing options, yet at home or in Neutral Venues they would go full pelt into the space, take the man on or make a pass, instead of shuffling, then getting tackled. Neutral matches as it stands are the best ones, because the game flows as a proper match should, each team has its good spells and parts where they need to defend, if i play as Man Utd, i shouldn't be scraping 1-0 wins or 2-1 wins in 90% of away games due to the ammount of mistakes players seemingly make, players magically not blending into the team etc, so you are lucky to create 5 shots on target, yet at home against the exact same players, with the exact same players it is all fine, and you win 4-0 while missing many more chances. and Indirect free kicks..... yea... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svenc Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 elliottpowerbwfc's ME feedback two posts above used to be in a locked thread, which spawned the following quote I wanted to adress: A realistic match engine should be very frustrating with games often being decided on what appears to be illogical defensive behaviour & only a select few will have the required skill to achieve consistent success, the pick up & play version would be very simple & even the most basic tactics should prove successful if you buy the top rated players. That is how the game already is, has arguably always been. Firstly, you can prove successful simply by developing and fielding good players - given that your own tactical instructions aren't completely nonsenical (such as for example dropping deep, opening wide and closing down in hordes - something which should be punished in any football game, FM or other, really). Secondly, if you take a side, lean back and just holiday from day one without actually doing anything yourself (no talks, no tactics, no training, no media, nothing), you will notice that is a rarity for your assistant to royally **** up anything. On the contrary, in 8 out of 10 cases he will meet the board's demands at the very least, often do better even, and very very rarely totally underperform or get you the sack, even. On the contrary, at least until FM 2012, you will be given all the credit for that personally. This is on all levels in the game, even in those in which the level of assistant management isn't as good as in the Premiership. Bottom line, if you stink at something, it is wholly optional for you to do it yourself anyway. Partly frustrating, because what's the point of bothering if the assistant can do just fine? Still, the hard part appears to be people who cannot admit it to themselves and just not do it on their own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harima83 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I always have the opinion that a real time ME is the only way to definitely solve a big amount of typical issues, limits and bugs of current ME. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duccio Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Has the bug affecting promotion of clubs from some of the German Regional Divisions been fixed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Cant say that I am to be honest.Not sure how easy this to find out, but what's the conversion rate for all the teams in your league in term of of penalties? well cavani missed another 1 but scored the next one, he has reasonable stats for it penalty taking - 15, finishing - 18, composure - 15 but i might change it to someone else Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 FM13 is not as pick up and play as FM12 was, took me ages to find something that worked. FM12 you just put a formation you wanted used some shouts bam. i find my assistant far more useful in away games. because i dont have to watch all the ME flaws and annoyances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1250 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 i dont know if this is a problem but on the match screen when i choose attacking mentality the creative control button ie balenced dissapears but when i choose control or standared it comes back. i thought that it was normal until i played malaga in cl and the creative control was there with attacking mentality. has anyone else had this problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonky Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Sounds like your tactics to be honest. Whilst that may be true for him, FM13 is unable to replicate Barcelona & Messi properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 is there a way to check on all your penalties taken/scored for the season? i would estimate i have had about 7 and missed 4! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 There is no team option but you can add a column to display an individuals penalty conversion rate, it's found under the 'stats' sub-menu when you use the insert column feature. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 not sure how to check? he has taken 8 all year and has easily missed 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 just playing fulham, edison cavani, top striker in europe misses ANOTHER penalty lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 So why is he still taking your pens if he keeps missing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 he has the best composure/finishing after podolski in my squad, wilshere has also missed podolski doesn't start and i see it as a kind of test now! podolski scores more than he misses when he gets on the pitch anyway! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 He might have the bets visual attributes but as I've seen his name mentioned a few times as a player who misses his fair share of penalties there's a good chances that one or more of his hidden attributes are working against him being anything other than below average at converting penalties. Even if the numbers suggest a player should find penalties easy if he misses more than he scores I will not let him anywhere near them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Exactly, i dont care about what his attributes say, if he is missing pens, he should be taken off them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masty7 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Just started my first game with the January update and receiving a horrendous amount of injuries. 2/3 players getting injured per game and about 4 players out for 2months+ and Im only a couple months in. Anyone else had the same problems with the update? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
squashstar666 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I think this update is a massive step backward. 1 ive seen many times so many I cant count them when people have complained about the full back stopping when defending against wingers and its still not been fixed. 2 the defenders have gone virtually bsck to beta in my opinion they just dont defend. My world class defenders that pre patch acted like world class defenders now act like erm normal or rubbish defenders. They dont mark, they make wierd passes, they make strange runs which takes them out of position, closing down whats that ? 3 injuries have gone backward a big way im now getting 1 or 2 injuries per match and no I havnt changed training or tactics everything is the same 4 penalties must be a record to have 1 or 2 penalties against every game and pre patch none 5 players dont move like before they seem to only really make a move when they get the ball again they were fine pre patch and now my striker never makes a run or anyone else 6 scored a direct free kick clearly went in but no goal as went over ? 7 stop poxy changing the tactics settings you get a tactic that works then u update and poof tactic doesnt work just shows the game is broken as regardless of update its still football and rules and tactics shldnt change Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 he scored the last 2 he took, including a decisive one to help me win the title, strange Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Fandel Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 he scored the last 2 he took, including a decisive one to help me win the title, strange Or maybe it isn't strange at all, and you just took too small a sample size to get an accurate view of penalty conversion rates. He could score 96/100 and still miss 4 in a row. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 i just found it odd, 7 of 11 in the end Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Fandel Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Have any of you found getting promoted reduces players being interested in you? I was Histon in BSN, got promoted in season 2. During season 2 I had players on loan from clubs like Crystal Palace , Scunthorpe, and Wigan and hundreds of unattached players interested in signing. Now every single transfer listed player interested in signing for me plays for Kettering.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Äktsjon Männ Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Have any of you found getting promoted reduces players being interested in you?I was Histon in BSN, got promoted in season 2. During season 2 I had players on loan from clubs like Crystal Palace , Scunthorpe, and Wigan and hundreds of unattached players interested in signing. Now every single transfer listed player interested in signing for me plays for Kettering.... I seem to get that. Not specifically with promotion, but my team finished 4th in the league against all odds (predicted last) and now the targets I had lined up who were all interested in signing just a month or so ago suddenly have no intention of even entering negotiations. So seemingly the prospect of Championship football is more attractive in FM than Champions League.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 something is up with penalties, world class strikers all missing them, everyone else, isn't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reedy_1988 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Just wondering is it because of the level i'm playing at? or something else.. and that is that at the beginning of near enough every match from the kick off the ball gets played around a little until somebody needlessly hoofs it forward and out of play (happens from both teams). Gets annoying after awhile. Playing 2D classic btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 That's how many kick-offs pan out irl, tap to player, pass back to CM or CB & then hoof towards the corner to try & pick up hopeful run from wide player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reedy_1988 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Even if you've manually set there passing and CF to lowest notch, team passing set to 'short', and have players in front of them available for an easy pass? etc.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hluraven Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 At least IRL when it happens, someone is within 40 yards. IRL, it is normally the winger sprinting up the line who tries to get on the end of it, in FM, the centre back just hoofs it when no one is anywhere near. It happens less at the higher levels, but still too often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Fandel Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I agree the kick offs leading to goal kicks happens too often at higher levels Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Fandel Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 This isn't my screenshot but it is something I have seen happening way too often in my recent save game, even post most recent update http://imgur.com/a/DTr4X/layout/blog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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