ReggaeBwoy Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Just get Debuchy, even I like Maicon we can get Debuchy for cheaper and better investment as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Maicon will definitely be cheaper than Debuchy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Inter will not sell him for less than £10m surely while Lille are reportedly willing to let Debuch leave for around £6 to £8m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Debuchy doesn't look good and Maicon will be free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted June 30, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted June 30, 2012 Kalou and Bosingwa confirmed as gone by the OS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Why are we assuming Maicon, if it happens, will be free? I might be going batshit mental, every chance, but I am convinced I read £18m in an article earlier. Not that I believe for a minute that'd be the fee but all suggests money will be transferred... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 I thought they were clearing out their older high earners? Lucio was let go even though he has two years left on his contract, Maicon will more than likely be the same with only 1 year left on his deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 fair enough that would make more sense i dont think it'll happen anyhow, just a hunch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Inter will not sell him for less than £10m surely while Lille are reportedly willing to let Debuch leave for around £6 to £8m Is Debuchy's contract running out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Is Debuchy's contract running out? Think he as got three years remaining however they accept he wants to leave, so they won't demand huge amounts of money. They just want to find a replacement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt1389 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/jun/30/euro-2012-john-terry-england Read that this morning, but didn't have time to post my questions. Firstly, thoughts on it? I think the point about Terry being ill suited to the way AVB wanted to play is fair enough, but a good manager should surely play to his players strengths. Lots of ways to look at it and go into more detail, but that'll do. Secondly, how do you think we'll handle Terry's decline generally? Do you think he'll turn into a squad player, or retire because his body has gone and he's an all or nothing player? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe__the__man Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Firstly, thoughts on it? I think the point about Terry being ill suited to the way AVB wanted to play is fair enough, but a good manager should surely play to his players strengths. Lots of ways to look at it and go into more detail, but that'll do. I think the whole point of AVB is that he was brought in to play a specific style of football that the club wanted the team to transition to. Obviously with hindsight that was never going to work out in the manner that AVB tried to implement it (particularly with the not-so-unknown man management issues), but it explains why he tried to do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubos Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 How to make Torres effective: basically play with 10 men until someone can make a perfect through pass for Torres to score. On another note, met Jose Mourinho in real life about 2 weeks ago, was here giving a speech to the football kids. Taller than he seems on TV. Was kinda awestruck but i asked him if he would ever come back to Chelsea. He said his time is over but there will always be Chelsea in his heart. What a great man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted July 1, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted July 1, 2012 He only scored against Ireland and a shattered ten men. Still confident about my bet with Crazy_T Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 so the guardian is reporting that bertrand, sturridge and mceachran are in the olympic squad. add that to luiz, mata, and potentially hulk ... and that's a decent chunk of our squad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Only 1, potentially 2 first teamers there though, so not too bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 more the quantity that'll be away. at present we only have 22 proper first-teamers, 21 if you remove hutchinson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 it's alright, we can promote Chalobah, Feruz and Swift for the few weeks they're away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted July 1, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted July 1, 2012 There'll defo be a few kids on pre-season, Dávila one of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oypus Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Well, everyone can rest easy tonight seeing how vital Torres and Mata were in Spain's campaign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted July 1, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted July 1, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Just imagine all the goals Torres will score next season vs beaten teams with only 10 men, or with Shay Given in goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubos Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 His first touch is still horrid. Was it that bad even when he was at Liverpool? Still, he seems to enjoy his football a lot more nowadays, hope he does well next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Wohoooooo!!! Torres and Mata scored and Torres got the golden boot as well!! Very happy for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Maicon will definitely be cheaper than DebuchyNot when you take into account how much Maicon's wages would be. Maicon's **** too and Debuchy is awesome. Having said that, I'd take Piszczek if we're looking at RBs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deez0r Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Anyone know much about the Thomas Cook package trips? Do you need to be a member to buy one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcoleman1 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Happy for Torres and Mata. Let's just hope Torres can take this and really start upping his game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirlwind Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Mata scoring with a minute of pitch time and his only touch in the tournament. Fantastic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcoleman1 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 So would Maicon be on a free or would he be £6million? Conflicting stories from various places and then there would be large wages on top of that. Really I would much rather go for players such as Van der Wiel, Piszczek etc, maybe even Kyle Walker although he would probably command a massive fee, especially as Spurs wouldn't want to sell either. I suppose it depends on how the see Hutch, if they genuinely think he could have the potential to be a first team starter then it would make more sense to have someone older who could be real backup/starter until he is ready. Also I swear I read somewhere (may have been a lame site though) that Hodgson was looking as Bertrand to be one of the players he would like to bring in to the England fold. Really hope he does this if it is true, would be great for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanyi Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Not when you take into account how much Maicon's wages would be. Maicon's **** too and Debuchy is awesome. Having said that, I'd take Piszczek if we're looking at RBs Really? Maicon was pretty fantastic only a year or two ago as far as I'm aware. That's going on reputation only, of course, as I've never watched him other than the occasion CL game. I'd rather get Debuchy anyway, as he's younger and on the up, probably costing less in wages. No idea who Piszczek is, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Also getting Maicon goes against the current trend of signings, or if they want to play Iva as CB and need an experienced RB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Not when you take into account how much Maicon's wages would be. Maicon's **** too and Debuchy is awesome. Having said that, I'd take Piszczek if we're looking at RBs Maicon clearly isn't ****. He's looked poor for Inter this year but so has everyone including players like Sneijder and Milito etc so it's clearly a club thing. Wait and see how good or bad he is at a new club. And this Debuchy/Piawhatever talk is such nonsense when Debuchy looked like **** at euro2012, would rather play Hutchinson there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Maicon clearly isn't ****. He's looked poor for Inter this year but so has everyone including players like Sneijder and Milito etc so it's clearly a club thing. Wait and see how good or bad he is at a new club. And this Debuchy/Piawhatever talk is such nonsense when Debuchy looked like **** at euro2012, would rather play Hutchinson there. I agree with most things you say apart from the bolded part. Debuchy was very good at the Euros, the reason he is gaining interest across Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Maicon clearly isn't ****. He's looked poor for Inter this year but so has everyone including players like Sneijder and Milito etc so it's clearly a club thing. Wait and see how good or bad he is at a new club. And this Debuchy/Piawhatever talk is such nonsense when Debuchy looked like **** at euro2012, would rather play Hutchinson there. I agree with most things you say apart from the bolded part. Debuchy was very good at the Euros, the reason he is gaining interest across Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert the Spud Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Really? Maicon was pretty fantastic only a year or two ago as far as I'm aware. That's going on reputation only, of course, as I've never watched him other than the occasion CL game. I'd rather get Debuchy anyway, as he's younger and on the up, probably costing less in wages. No idea who Piszczek is, though. Players can decline quickly, just look at Evra. It's unlikely that in a league such as this one, coming here when you're slightly past your peak that you're going to improve. Anyway, get him. Can't wait to see how Bale does against him. Debuchy is 27. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drogba Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Players can decline quickly, just look at Evra. It's unlikely that in a league such as this one, coming here when you're slightly past your peak that you're going to improve. Anyway, get him. Can't wait to see how Bale does against him.Debuchy is 27. Bale will be playing right-back under AvB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Maicon clearly isn't ****. He's looked poor for Inter this year but so has everyone including players like Sneijder and Milito etc so it's clearly a club thing. Wait and see how good or bad he is at a new club. And this Debuchy/Piawhatever talk is such nonsense when Debuchy looked like **** at euro2012, would rather play Hutchinson there.Maicon has been mediocre ever since Mourinho left Inter and is on the wrong side of 30. Debuchy was class for France at the Euros tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Debuchy was good vs England, mediocre vs Ukraine and got tore apart by Sweden and Spain. He was bad and not good enough for us. I'd much rather have Maicon for a couple of seasons rotating with Ivanovic then see if there are any decent prospects. Because right now there are none, VdW and Debuchy showed they aren't good enough and Walker would never be allowed to sign for us. And Maicon was playing injured in that Spurs game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Debuchy was good vs England, mediocre vs Ukraine and got tore apart by Sweden and Spain. He was bad and not good enough for us. I'd much rather have Maicon for a couple of seasons rotating with Ivanovic then see if there are any decent prospects. Because right now there are none, VdW and Debuchy showed they aren't good enough and Walker would never be allowed to sign for us.And Maicon was playing injured in that Spurs game. Tbf Debuchy was playing on the RW in the Spain game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcoleman1 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 So apparently Spurs will bid £10million for Sturridge. I honestly hope we don't sell him although RDM doesn't appear to keen on him. If he would pass a lot more and do his defensive tracking back etc. then I think there would be no problem with him. Still think we should try him out properly as a striker during pre-season before we decide to do something. I don't want us to sell him, but if we do it should be for more than £10million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirlwind Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 If that means we're getting Hulk (or another high level replacement), I say take it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oypus Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Because right now there are none There are always decent prospects, we just don't know who they are. Teams still find them. Let's not lose all hope here... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 So apparently Spurs will bid £10million for Sturridge. I honestly hope we don't sell him although RDM doesn't appear to keen on him. If he would pass a lot more and do his defensive tracking back etc. then I think there would be no problem with him. Still think we should try him out properly as a striker during pre-season before we decide to do something. I don't want us to sell him, but if we do it should be for more than £10million. I would be so angry if we let Sturridge go, same reasons as you, with age he will mature and hopefully RDM does see something in him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 No chance of selling him for 10m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 So AVB signs for Tottenham, hope he does well but not as well as us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Buddinho Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Spurs won't pay him the wages he wants, and £10m is a joke. Promising English attacker? if this was Liverpool, people would be saying £30m... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Isn't Sturridge entering the last year of his contract? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Buddinho Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Bah, 'off season' mucking me around thought he had 2 years yet. Still, I guess the question will be if he'd like to play right wing for Spurs on less money? All depends on RDM then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 God I can't wait for our Spurs games now. AvB in. Knocking them out of the CL spot. Gonna be fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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